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  1. i2dv2da2dn

    i2dv2da2dn Full Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Lynnwood, WA
    Okay. I have a friend who told me a story about his cousins Bf who has been vaping for over 2 years who just recently got diagnosed with some type of fungus called "game green" (idk if its the right spelling) in his mouth or throat area in which he blames vaping for it. As my friend tell the story he asked the guy what type of juices is he using and the reply was unknown. Me and my friend believe the guy has been using ejuices that was not U.S. made, also we do not believe it was the vaping as we never know maybe the guy just never brushed his teeth :p hahaha jk. Anyways my Advice to anyone just incase ALWAYS BUY U.S. MADE JUICES NEVER BUY JUICES FROM OTHER COUNTRIES (No OFFENSE). Just thought i would share this story. thoughts anyone?
     
  2. mh1972

    mh1972 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 28, 2013
    Missouri
    think its spelled gangrene
     
  3. Discord

    Discord Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 5, 2013
    Portland, OR, USA
    gangrene? lol not sure how that could happen from vape juice, or in the throat area... when stories start with "a friends cousins boyfriend said" I start to question it...
     
  4. Sheila Michele 1971

    Sheila Michele 1971 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 5, 2013
    Carroll County MD
    First, there are videos of people taking a tour thru Chinese juice vendors and they are like a science lab. Perhaps someone will see this thread and post it.

    Second, vg and pg are supposed to be anti bacterial or something that doesnt cause fungus. Ive seen posts where people have left their juices in a drawer over a year and they are still fine.

    Pretty doubtful he got what he has from juice.....He might eat weird foot, not brush his teeth....whatever. Too many variables to factor in. Seeing how lots of people here have been vaping 2-3+ years with no issues leads me to believe it aint the juice.
     
  5. pcie

    pcie Full Member

    May 30, 2013
    Central NJ
    I'd wager that Chinese factories producing e-liquid on a large scale have cleaner environments than small vendors in the US.
    Just saying.
     
  6. mh1972

    mh1972 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 28, 2013
    Missouri
    im sure most of the ingredients are massed produced over there as well
     
  7. JMarca

    JMarca E-Cig Afficionado Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 19, 2013
    New York
    My cousin's uncle's sister's 2nd brother in law's neighbor told me he went to South Africa and saw a lion!
     
  8. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2011
    Toronto, Ont.
    Oral Thrush is a fungal disease and can be caused by a number of issues but has no relationship to juice and/ or vaping. It's also known as Green Tongue. Can spread to the mouth and throat areas and in severe cases can spread to the digestive tract, lungs and liver. If this is what he has I'm willing to bet it was caused by dehydration that upset the balance of bacteria in his oral area. I'm NOT a Dr. and the above is ALL IMHO.
     
  9. s3nru

    s3nru New Member

    May 31, 2013
    toronto
    gangrene in the mouth? doesn't sound right
     
  10. Underdawg736

    Underdawg736 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 24, 2013
    Lancaster, Pa
    That's what I'm thinking Vapoor. To get gangrene in the mouth and throat, you need to be vaping massi.....ginormous amounts of liquid or using shady or dirty equipment. Even then I would highly suspect an underlying condition causing it and not vaping. Gangrene is not a fungus, it's in a nutshell your flesh rotting due to your circulation being compromised. for a healthy person, this doesn't happen overnight.
     
  11. ChadGio

    ChadGio Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 24, 2013
    Tampa Florida
    Sounds unrelated to me :confused:
     
  12. sams

    sams Full Member Verified Member

    May 30, 2013
    United States
    I have personally toured many factories in china as a consultant to an electronics manufacturer in the US, and every one of them, at least on the production floor, was clean, efficient and well organized. And this is only for basic electronic accessories mainly cables, I imagine their juice production facilities are even more so, in fact they may be fairly automated. No one there cares about anything except the task at hand, producing high volume, they don't have the time or will for that matter to mischievously manipulate or sabotage the ingredients. Now there are always exceptions, and also this doesn't mean mistakes can't be made, but that's the case in all facilities isn't it? That being said, why would anyone buy anything but US made juice if there's no significant advantage to buying it from china? I mean do they have really really tasty juice or something? Does it recharge your batteries while you vape? If it's all relatively the same stuff, no matter from US or china, and close to the same pricing, then why not support your own economy? Who cares if the raw materials come from china, the people putting it together and selling/marketing and realizing profits are american. Come on...we all need to start buying american whenever possible...

    Btw - If you tour one yourself watch the low ceiling room-room transitions, smacked my head so hard I barely avoided stitches. 6'-2" and a giant over there.
     
  13. Chikenbok

    Chikenbok Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 30, 2013
    New York, NY
    You should probably tell your girlfriend's brother's cousin's parents to have your girlfriend's brother's cousin to start flossing and brushing their bloody (pun kind of intended) teeth.
     
  14. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2011
    Toronto, Ont.
    Agree. Whenever I speak about dehydration I try to make new vapers understand its importance. Body can go for weeks without food but take away water and it's game over in a matter of days. Some may say "I'm not dehydrated" but they have no idea of the serious consequences from dehydration that they can't see or feel until it becomes a serious health issue. When dehydrated the body re routes water from less important areas- vital organs are at the top of the list- non vital organs at the bottom and can become stressed.
    Again not a Dr. but have a degree in Sports Med and have spoken to numerous Healthcare Professionals- after seeing the ingredients in juice they ALL agree hydration is very important.
     
  15. Jimi D.

    Jimi D. ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Oct 26, 2010
    Florida Keys
    I'd hate to bust your bubble, but most nicotine extract and flavoring compounds comes from China.

    I vape Indian, Chinese, Bulgarian, nicotine bases. I use Chinese (Hangsen) flavorings 99% of the time.

    As for American juice it's going to have some kind of foreign country in it. We don't extract nicotine period !
     
  16. Dvx67

    Dvx67 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 23, 2013
    Lexington, KY
    Funny thread is funny.
     
  17. AgentAnia

    AgentAnia Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    May 22, 2013
    Orbiting Sirius B
    My take is if friend's cousin's BF's condition is in any way related to vaping, it's due to dirty equipment, most likely a dirty drip tip. If it were caused by bad juice, we'd have heard about many more such cases.
     
  18. pcie

    pcie Full Member

    May 30, 2013
    Central NJ
    I wasn't trying to imply that I purchase Chinese made e-liquid. On the contrary, all of my e-liquid comes from US vendors, regardless of the source of their respective components.

    I'm just getting tired of hearing people knock everything that comes from China. You get what you pay for in Chinese products. Look at an iPhone, it's one of the most well made devices I've seen, it's made in China. That's because Apple is willing to pay more for better QC since they have a brand image to protect.
     
  19. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2011
    Toronto, Ont.
    Soon enuff we won't have to worry about the origin of our juice when we wander down to a retail outlet and purchase a package of low mg pre filled sealed cartos with a tax sticker on it. Life is gonna be so wonderful for future new vapers.
     
  20. presidentk1

    presidentk1 Full Member

    May 27, 2013
    USA
    Wouldnt the heat from the coil kill any living organism
     
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