Eleaf GS Air Fan : Part 2

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Nanny22

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I'm hurt :cry:

I didn't get a welcome banner, t-shirt, dog shirt or nothing from Nanny :(
:wub:@daleron :wub::wub:!! We must have been out of stock at the time! And you may have been here before me -- who knows!
For sure you need this one for that Precious Pup:
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And here's yours:
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And these lanyards just came in last night:
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@IMRs needs to fire up that Airhead Bus and pick us all up for a party some weekend real soon. Pick a seat!
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My out and about set up is currently the istick30 with the gs air m rocking the .75 coil. I've got an at home collection with a few kabuki tanks, multiple iSub G tanks and a Cubis. I'm thinking about trading in the istick for my new provari mini for travel but I'm not ready to let the mini out of the house yet! Oh I have a NEbox which is a great vape but oh the leaking and it runs through battery power to quickly to use out for anything but short trips.

I've come to enjoy sub-ohm vapes here and there but my go to is definitely the gs air.
 

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    :wub:@daleron :wub::wub:!! We must have been out of stock at the time! And you may have been here before me -- who knows!
    For sure you need this one for that Precious Pup:
    airhead_bad_bun_wake_dog_tee_shirt-r9bd86e2c12a54e378738548c44da7d3a_xhppw_8byvr_324.jpg

    And here's yours:
    keep_calm_by_focusing_on_airheads_tee_shirt-r6bfb3d781cb547b39d2fa1b66a839c3f_vjfev_324.jpg


    And these lanyards just came in last night:
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    @IMRs needs to fire up that Airhead Bus and pick us all up for a party some weekend real soon. Pick a seat!
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    *sniff* *sniff*

    Elly & I thank you Nanny :wub:



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    morningdew

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    Issues or lack of issues could well be down to pg/vg blend. Those with higher pg juices are more likely to get over saturation from the 1.2 and 0.75 coils. Those with higher vg blends are less likely to encounter problems.

    I used to find the 1.2's fine with 50/50 blends. Now I've moved over to mainly rta's and rda's, I use the airs less, recently when I have loaded one up with a 1.2 coil I am getting bad over saturation and loads of juice in my mouth.

    Real disappointment, not sure if it's lack of use allowing coil time to over saturate or just bad batch of coils.

    One optiOn is to store overnight, however I think the issue is greater than avoiding prolonged saturation without a vape.

    Some 1.5's arrive today, hoping they will be better as off on holiday in a week or so, and don't want to be rebuilding whilst away.

    Eleaf fans who want to rebuild - I can't sing the lemo drops praises high enough. Fantastic rta.
     

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    yeah I have 3 boxes of 1.5's
    Issues or lack of issues could well be down to pg/vg blend. Those with higher pg juices are more likely to get over saturation from the 1.2 and 0.75 coils. Those with higher vg blends are less likely to encounter problems.

    I used to find the 1.2's fine with 50/50 blends. Now I've moved over to mainly rta's and rda's, I use the airs less, recently when I have loaded one up with a 1.2 coil I am getting bad over saturation and loads of juice in my mouth.

    Real disappointment, not sure if it's lack of use allowing coil time to over saturate or just bad batch of coils.

    One optiOn is to store overnight, however I think the issue is greater than avoiding prolonged saturation without a vape.

    Some 1.5's arrive today, hoping they will be better as off on holiday in a week or so, and don't want to be rebuilding whilst away.

    Eleaf fans who want to rebuild - I can't sing the lemo drops praises high enough. Fantastic rta.
    I vape with DIY 50/50 juice.
     

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    Picked up a GS Air-M from a local B&M this morning. Of course it came with a 1.5 coil. Difference is night and day from the experience I posted about yesterday with the .75 in the iStick Basic. I LIKE this M and 1.5 combo. Anxiously awaiting my order of 1.5's to try in the Basic.

    Disclaimer: The only experience I have so far with either the .75 or 1.5 are installed heads that came with new tanks I picked up yesterday and today ... more vaping is needed to fully assess :)
     

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    Picked up a GS Air-M from a local B&M this morning. Of course it came with a 1.5 coil. Difference is night and day from the experience I posted about yesterday with the .75 in the iStick Basic. I LIKE this M and 1.5 combo. Anxiously awaiting my order of 1.5's to try in the Basic.

    Disclaimer: The only experience I have so far with either the .75 or 1.5 are installed heads that came with new tanks I picked up yesterday and today ... more vaping is needed to fully assess :)
    Hello Hobbs and welcome. :) 1.5's are the ticket. And if you get into rebuilding them... even better! I do nothing but 1.5 rebuilt in the M and sometimes the GS-Tank (I use a 30 watt iStick at work and Evic mini's at home). Glad you enjoy them. :)
     

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    Picked up a GS Air-M from a local B&M this morning. Of course it came with a 1.5 coil. Difference is night and day from the experience I posted about yesterday with the .75 in the iStick Basic. I LIKE this M and 1.5 combo. Anxiously awaiting my order of 1.5's to try in the Basic.

    Disclaimer: The only experience I have so far with either the .75 or 1.5 are installed heads that came with new tanks I picked up yesterday and today ... more vaping is needed to fully assess :)
    Glad to hear you had success with the 1.5's, they are the perfect MTL coil.
    Depending on your juice, they tend to have a long vape life too! :thumbs:
     

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    I use DIY nekkid (NN) 50/50 18mg/mL with sometimes a light flavoring (about 1 drop per ml) of Capella Cuppuccino for a change of pace. On rare occasion I might try some (Fuji) Apple and/or Caramel ... lightly.

    The Innokin batteries output a constant 14W as designed for the Innokin Prism tanks w/1.5's ... so Purrfect for the Air M with 1.5.

    No muss fuss or fiddle here. The ONLY variable is tank air. I like that.

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    I use DIY nekkid (NN) 50/50 18mg/mL with sometimes a light flavoring (about 1 drop per ml) of Capella Cuppuccino for a change of pace. On rare occasion I might try some (Fuji) Apple and/or Caramel ... lightly.

    The Innokin batteries output a constant 14W as designed for the Innokin Prism tanks w/1.5's ... so Purrfect for the Air M with 1.5.

    No muss fuss or fiddle here. The ONLY variable is tank air. I like that.

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    I'd like to mention ahead of time that the 'M will leak a drop or 2 of juice out of the base every once in a while, so in order to cure that, check my blog in order to close off the hole in the bottom of the tank base. Juice on the firing pin was always a big headache until plugging them up with silicone sealant. The M base is an older design (like the old evods that didn't have air controls) that Eleaf fixed when they came out with the GS-Tank.
     

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    Is this outdated? I read a lot of people pushing a lot more juice than this recommends through their coils?View attachment 540222
    I can only say that I did use similar charts when using the Evods but now, I would imagine with newer technology they could probably be changed somewhat. Not sure, since I don't use them any longer. :)
     
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    Is this outdated? I read a lot of people pushing a lot more juice than this recommends through their coils?View attachment 540222

    It is mostly outdated. Current heads are far superior to the CE4 and EVOD this chart was designed for. Airflow has increased dramatically too. It's still a safe starting place, however. 14-15W is not unheard of in a GS Air or Nautilus Mini-type tank. I vape my EVOD/PT2 rebuilds at 12-15W.
     

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    Concerning the chart ... maybe wick material makes a difference? ... or metal composition in the coil? When it speaks to "Damage of Heating Coil", I wonder if it means "damage" to the head which includes the coil and wicking material? ... and the weakest link would be the wicking material I think. I would think it to be most susceptible to heat, not the wire itself but could be wrong.

    One bit of observation that MIGHT indicate the older tables are outdated is the wattage/voltage rating that is imprinted on the pre-made heads themselves. That information alone might indicate the tables aren't current (no pun intended). Maybe the table is best used as a guide when DIY?

    I usually "feel" the performance to find the sweet spot. I let my senses sort it out and what I find best for me may not be best for someone else of course.
     

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    Tried a 1.5 in the iStick Basic this afternoon.

    First impressions based on first use:

    The density and volume of vapor is greater with the .75 coil in the iStick Basic. No surprise there, sub-ohm wins. BUT if I have to draw a little deeper and slightly longer, I'm okay with that as long as there is no gurgle and spitting such as I experienced with the one .75 coil I've tried in the iStick Basic. So far, I'm happiest with the 1.5 in the iStick Basic ... but would easily prefer a .75 if there was no gurgle and spitting.

    That same 1.5 coil provides vapor of greater volume and density in the GS Air-M than the Basic. Given the same coil, the 19mm GS Air-M outperforms the 14mm GS Air 2 in the iStick basic. Not even close and no need for me to even try a .75 in the GS Air-M.

    So I may fluctuate/fiddle a bit more with the iStick Basic, but on the GS Air-M and 1.5 ... I'm set.
     

    Cheechako

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    Tried a 1.5 in the iStick Basic this afternoon.

    First impressions based on first use:

    The density and volume of vapor is greater with the .75 coil in the iStick Basic. No surprise there, sub-ohm wins. BUT if I have to draw a little deeper and slightly longer, I'm okay with that as long as there is no gurgle and spitting such as I experienced with the one .75 coil I've tried in the iStick Basic. So far, I'm happiest with the 1.5 in the iStick Basic ... but would easily prefer a .75 if there was no gurgle and spitting.

    That same 1.5 coil provides vapor of greater volume and density in the GS Air-M than the Basic. Given the same coil, the 19mm GS Air-M outperforms the 14mm GS Air 2 in the iStick basic. Not even close and no need for me to even try a .75 in the GS Air-M.

    So I may fluctuate/fiddle a bit more with the iStick Basic, but on the GS Air-M and 1.5 ... I'm set.
    Mirrors my experience too. The .75 is a great coil in the basic, not so much to me on the istick even still in the
    GS Air 2 tank. Opposite with the 1.5 coils.
    One thing I might add that hasn't been heard in a while, the coils that came installed on the Air series of tanks
    from the manufacturer did not perform as well as the coils out of a blister pack. Dunno if this is still true...
     
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