Eleaf iStick : part 2
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Aaagghhhhh...my eyes! Again!
After a couple of weeks, I've gotten pretty used to the istick 40w. My friend who I got one for to replace his lost 30w noticed it was a smoother vape as well, because the 40w doesn't use pulse width modulation like the 20w and 30w do.
I wouldn't worry too much about the reliability of it. It's basically a 30w with a stainless steel body and the tank facing the other direction, with flawed temperature control. It doesn't even reallllly go up to 40 watts, as shown by pbusardo.
The only thing that still bothers me is the location of the tank on the other side of the battery now. I'm using the same hand positioning as I did on my 30w, but I always ends up covering one of the airholes on my kayfun. My finger often ends up smelling like e-juice as I come back from outside.
I'm not sure who's bright idea that was, but I hope they move it back for the next iStick. But wouldn't the next one be the 50w all over again? Or would they go to 75w? I don't want it to get any bigger than it already is.
I wouldn't worry too much about the reliability of it. It's basically a 30w with a stainless steel body and the tank facing the other direction, with flawed temperature control. It doesn't even reallllly go up to 40 watts, as shown by pbusardo.
The only thing that still bothers me is the location of the tank on the other side of the battery now. I'm using the same hand positioning as I did on my 30w, but I always ends up covering one of the airholes on my kayfun. My finger often ends up smelling like e-juice as I come back from outside.
I'm not sure who's bright idea that was, but I hope they move it back for the next iStick. But wouldn't the next one be the 50w all over again? Or would they go to 75w? I don't want it to get any bigger than it already is.
Only the 20w uses pwm. Is the smoother vape when using TC? They have a new 100w.
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bikenstein
8/14/2015 12:48 AM
Hello Bikenstein,
Thank you for your email. But I'm sorry to tell you that we don't offer control board separately to customers and sorry for the problems you experienced with the device.
We offer 90-day warranty for our products and our warranty is first provided by retailers or distributors. Have you contacted your seller about the problem?
Kindly suggest contacting them first for after-sale service. If they refuse, please tell us the detailed problem with the devices and we will furtherly help you then.
Thank you so much for your continuous support.
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Winni
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bikenstein
8/14/2015 12:48 AM
Hello Bikenstein,
Thank you for your email. But I'm sorry to tell you that we don't offer control board separately to customers and sorry for the problems you experienced with the device.
We offer 90-day warranty for our products and our warranty is first provided by retailers or distributors. Have you contacted your seller about the problem?
Kindly suggest contacting them first for after-sale service. If they refuse, please tell us the detailed problem with the devices and we will furtherly help you then.
Thank you so much for your continuous support.
Best regards,
Winni
iSmoka service
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no rest for the weary 
tc for kanthal coming up but it won't be a 510 connection
Introducing Innokin Advanced Temperature Control- the Innokin Disrupter°TC, InnokinCell -Curve and the ATC-Atlas Tank! : electronic_cigarette
tc for kanthal coming up but it won't be a 510 connection
Introducing Innokin Advanced Temperature Control- the Innokin Disrupter°TC, InnokinCell -Curve and the ATC-Atlas Tank! : electronic_cigarette
That's actually not a true statement Bilk. The 30w still uses PWM sometimes. I remember seeing it in pbusardo's chart. I just went back to the video and found it. I've embedded these videos right at the beginning of the relevant parts.
In pbusardo's chart for the 40w, it's a straight line, but not a completely smooth one.
That kind of explains why I feel like the 30w hits a little harder than the 40w, due to the PWM, but the 40w is a bit smoother cuz of the signal.
You're right at low setting below 3v it goes in to pwm. I remember that video now. I never noticed the pwm because I always vape above 8w. The 40w has a dirty signal too so above 8.2 watts there should be no noticeable difference in smoothness. I can readily see why you get a "smoother" vape at low watts with the 40. But PWM is why I like the SX Mini for TC. Thanks for the post.
ETA: I'm gonna check out a 30 at low watts
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I've ran into a handful of "vape" centric vendors who insist on billing/shipping being the same address. When pressed one vendor claimed that it was a part of their visa/mc rules - oddly even if that were the case they did not bother customizing their website to REMOVE the option of having separate billing/shipping addresses - which adds to the confusion of the silly requirement.
The USPS in its wisdom decided to change the ZIP CODE where I live. Sadly UPS, many banking systems and even the USPS still have disagreement as to what the actual ZIP code is making many orders fail outright and others fail after being accepted (by even the USPS) and later marked "return to sender - invalid address" once the package reached my local post office.
In other words - I feel your pain.
(back on topic) I own a handful of replaceable battery mods as well as a few "iStick" devices with internal batteries. I love the size/weight/cost of the iStick devices and outside of my only dual 18650 mod (which does NOT have a charge port) I almost always use the USB charge port if there is one. Come to think of it, almost all my other electronics have a "charge port" which are always used and almost all of them have much larger mAh and voltage ratings. Sure, every once in a while there will be a news story of a laptop or other device with faulty battery pack or charge circuit which catches on fire. Not often enough for me to be paranoid about charging my vape gear.
Get real here folks.
I don't like seeing temp protection. I would rather just keep seeing a temp reading all the way through the vapelike on the SX Mini. Electronics are cheap so cost shouldn't be a factor.
Do you even OWN a TC40? (earlier you mentioned that you would never buy one)
Electronics is NOT cheap. The chipset in the SXminiM alone costs ~+2x the MSRP of the TC40.
Apples and Oranges here.
Fasttech now has the 30w iStick "Styled" module for $9. $8.94 iStick 30W Styled VV/VW APV Box Mod Control Module - 3.3-4.2V / 5-30W at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Edit; They also have a different 50w module that's a few bucks cheaper than the first 50w module $13.02 iStick 50W Styled VW APV Box Mod Control Module - 3-50W / 3.7V at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Edit 2; They also have a 20w module that is just VV $7.94 iStick 20W Styled VV APV Box Mod Control Module - 3.3-4.2V / 20W at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Edit; They also have a different 50w module that's a few bucks cheaper than the first 50w module $13.02 iStick 50W Styled VW APV Box Mod Control Module - 3-50W / 3.7V at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Edit 2; They also have a 20w module that is just VV $7.94 iStick 20W Styled VV APV Box Mod Control Module - 3.3-4.2V / 20W at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
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My meaning on electronics being cheap is cheap to manufacture. I know about the cost of the SX, I have one. We're talking TC and TC not apples and oranges. My preference is to see the temp displayed full time. I think all TC mods should do that
Your talking Chinese or Malaysian FAB plants, the chipset for the SXMini is probably $5 a piece in 5K quantity...
It would be different if TI or Linear made them in an American FAB plant then they would be $50 each for 5K quantity...
It would be different if TI or Linear made them in an American FAB plant then they would be $50 each for 5K quantity...
I buy iSticks cuz I'm kind of loyal to the brand. I really liked them, they work great for me, and I don't really need a need to try anything else for now. Especially since the price is right. So much competition and choices these days though. I saw an e-mail saying Aspire is coming out with their own box mod in a week or two as well.
To the person that is having issues getting stuff mailed because of the billing/shipping address thing, I understand both sides. My shipping address is my home, but my billing address is a PO Box in the same city. Don't ask me why.
I know in the past it was quite common that the billing and shipping addresses had to match. It's another deterrent to fraud, which is pretty common these days. I believe the store and not the credit card provider has to eat the cost in case of fraud. Over the past few years companies get away from the matched shipping/billing address policy. I think companies are just considering it the cost of running a business these days.
But I do understand why a company would still refuse to ship to a different address. When you're running a small business, they probably have to sell 2-3 isticks or more to make up for the cost of losing 1.
To the person that is having issues getting stuff mailed because of the billing/shipping address thing, I understand both sides. My shipping address is my home, but my billing address is a PO Box in the same city. Don't ask me why.
I know in the past it was quite common that the billing and shipping addresses had to match. It's another deterrent to fraud, which is pretty common these days. I believe the store and not the credit card provider has to eat the cost in case of fraud. Over the past few years companies get away from the matched shipping/billing address policy. I think companies are just considering it the cost of running a business these days.
But I do understand why a company would still refuse to ship to a different address. When you're running a small business, they probably have to sell 2-3 isticks or more to make up for the cost of losing 1.
People are really making a big deal out of temperature controlled devices these days? Wasn't it easy enough just to set a wattage and lock it? 
My meaning on electronics being cheap is cheap to manufacture. I know about the cost of the SX, I have one. We're talking TC and TC not apples and oranges. My preference is to see the temp displayed full time. I think all TC mods should do that
My point (I work for a non-vape centeric Electronics Chip manufacturer) is that the cost of ALL the parts that go into finished devices account for the cost to manufacture. Agreed that the assembly of the device itself might be inexpensive.
The "Apple and Oranges" here is that your expecting a very inexpensive device that you nether own or plan on purchasing (~$30-40) to function in the same way as a device that costs ~$200.
The SX350J's "little brother" (I forget the exact chip designation here) that is in the IPV4S won't display the real time temperature of the coil ether and the IPV4S costs 2x as much as the little TC40.
I like my little TC40 and use it nearly everyday. It may not work the same as devices that cost 2-7X as much but IMHO the TC40 is a great little device.
Bikenstein said:You can't adjust your watt setting on the TC40 so you can't do what he says.... I set my SX Mini to where the power brings it just up to the temp I like without overshooting it. TC with PWM is totally different. I don't know if there is an advantage with the DNA40 with the adj. watt ability over the TC40 or not. It seems to me the TC40 is all that's necessary without having adjustable watts since after ramp up to temp it adjusts itself anyway. I don't like seeing temp protection. I would rather just keep seeing a temp reading all the way through the vape
George, George, George....
....You evidently read way to much into what people say. I never said I don't intend to buy a TC40. I mean why not? I got a pile of iSticks anyway. Do you really think I believe the TC40 should perform like my SX? "the cost of ALL the parts that go into finished devices account for the cost to manufacture"? Thanks for that bit of enlightenment. Learn something new every day! The "apples and oranges" here seems to be your thinkin and my thinkin. Anyway, welcome to the thread. ETA: I've been lookin at getting a grey one since they came out. Just ain't bit yet. I might even get one of those Inni TCs you've been checkin out
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I agree! I took advantage of Vape NW's deal on th 30W's at $19.95 each in the "light red". I got two of them just to have on hand should one of mine fail. The "light red" is actually my favorite istick color. Of course, I'm a girl, so I like the color.
Is your tank larger and heaver than you TC40? No problem. This has got to be the coolest accessory for the TC40:
iStick TC40W Bending Adaptor
Just fold the tank over.
iStick TC40W Bending Adaptor
Just fold the tank over.
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