Eleaf iStick "pico"

[kross8]

i will toss this out there fully telling you i know nothing,, and i do mean nothing about all the software and tc,, and which wires and coils some of you like to use.

is it possible that the wire changes because of use and that along with juice/carbon build up is giving you guys the jumping ohms?

again i know nothing,, but i think the computer chip is likely more stable than the coil,, the chip is just telling you what it sees/reads.

 

[Ed_C]

I tried using my Melo on TC again, for kicks. Still not working very well. Funny thing is, soon as it registers the temp, even after it's been sitting, it's reading around 400F. I know it warms up quick, but it seems to read high. Even set at over 500F it hits temperature protection in about a second, then the vapor drop off. I've reset the room temp resistance as well.

 

[Ed_C]

Alright, I made it do the new tank thing and now it's reading 0.57 instead of 0.37, which makes more sense since they are 0.5 Ti coils. It's working better now.

 

[TrollDragon]

I'm not sure if you can single out Joyetech products. Sigelei, Smok and others have had complaints about their TC as well. Accurate TC may be more than one can ask of a mods the sell for 25-40 bucks. When I can afford it, I will pick up a DNA. I've been very tempted by the Hcigar VT75s that are being blown out at $50. I know they aren't prefect, but they do have a DNA board.

Yeah, I guess that would be true of them all at some point in the game. On the other hand I do love my VT75, it's a heavy beastie and at $50 it's a great deal.

 

[TrollDragon]

Alright, I made it do the new tank thing and now it's reading 0.57 instead of 0.37, which makes more sense since they are 0.5 Ti coils. It's working better now.

I find that if a coil is hitting TC too soon, it is either dry, or has an incorrect cold resistance on the mod.

 

[Fozzy71]

thx @Jim_ MDP , the ones I got from ebay got loose for no apparent reason. Even the one that just sat on my desk wouldn't stay on after a week or two. Just swapped out the generics in my FT cart for the iWodevape brand.

these are crap too

These look like they may last longer but I only ordered 4 of these vs the 8 silicones - $2.77 Authentic Vapesoon Protective PU Leather Sleeve Case for Eleaf iStick Pico 75W Mod at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[rommel19540]

Can anyone explain what the best TCR for SS wire is. The Pico manual recommends a range of 80-200. I set M1 to 80 M2 120 and M3 180 and find that M3 at 180 works great. Is there a negative impact from setting the TCR value to high provided it's in that recommended range? One other thing is I forget to lock in coil. So how long do I have to let it sit before locking it?

 

[Eskie]

The TCR is dependent on the particular wire. There are several SS wires you can use for a coil, and each has their own TCR. There's a thread on here that can help for all the different wire types in use The Ultimate TCR List

 

[trentenmarschel]

Just built my first ss coil and damn, I should have done that before. Tcss seems to work much better than the TiTc mode.

 

[pufZeppelin]

Just built my first ss coil and damn, I should have done that before. Tcss seems to work much better than the TiTc mode.

I'm of the same belief
SSTC & with rayon is the best cleanest vape , for me
closely followed by TiTC/rayon

I myself never liked the NiTC effect

 

[IMRs]

I'm in the same boat, thanks to a couple of friends.
I never tried anything other than SS, so I guess there's no need to. SS & Rayon is just so nice!!

 

[trentenmarschel]

I'm of the same belief
SSTC & with rayon is the best cleanest vape , for me
closely followed by TiTC/rayon

I myself never liked the NiTC effect View attachment 601121

I'm in the same boat, thanks to a couple of friends.
I never tried anything other than SS, so I guess there's no need to. SS & Rayon is just so nice!! View attachment 601165

Well, I don't think I'll ever switch back to titanium. Maybe kanthal one day, but I don't even see why I would do that. SS produces the bast vape I've had and I have the temp way down at like 300 something. So I believe the temp readings are more accurate.

 

[Eskie]

SS is great. I have a ton of Kanthal that I keep telling myself I'll use one day, but I haven't built anything but SS since the first spool of it was delivered.

 

[IMRs]

SS is great. I have a ton of Kanthal that I keep telling myself I'll use one day, but I haven't built anything but SS since the first spool of it was delivered.

Yep, I lost count of my kanthal spools and also haven't used any since the first SS build. Kanthal is good but SS is excellent.

 

[TrollDragon]

Well, I don't think I'll ever switch back to titanium. Maybe kanthal one day, but I don't even see why I would do that. SS produces the bast vape I've had and I have the temp way down at like 300 something. So I believe the temp readings are more accurate.

Sorry, but if you are getting a great vape at 300F then there is something wrong with that setup. Resistance is not right or too high of a TCR etc...

I only use SS wire and across all my TC devices 300F would barely produce anything remotely resembling what would be considered a vape.

Have you done a dry cotton burn test on your setup with those settings? The purpose of TC is for consistency of the vape and to prevent dry hits when you run out of juice. If TC is not setup correctly then you are defeating the purpose of temperature protection/limiting and might as well use power mode.

 

[trentenmarschel]

Sorry, but if you are getting a great vape at 300F then there is something wrong with that setup. Resistance is not right or too high of a TCR etc...

I only use SS wire and across all my TC devices 300F would barely produce anything remotely resembling what would be considered a vape.

Have you done a dry cotton burn test on your setup with those settings? The purpose of TC is for consistency of the vape and to prevent dry hits when you run out of juice. If TC is not setup correctly then you are defeating the purpose of temperature protection/limiting and might as well use power mode.

Like a .8 ohm coil. Using 28ga ss. with like 3 or 4 wraps. I also have the airflow half shut. But I think it is like 350 to 380. Can't remember, but in class now. I'll upload pictures later.

 

[KenD]

Like a .8 ohm coil. Using 28ga ss. with like 3 or 4 wraps. I also have the airflow half shut. But I think it is like 350 to 380. Can't remember, but in class now. I'll upload pictures later.

That resistance doesn't sound right at all. What's the inner diameter of the coil?

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[Mactavish]

Well, I don't think I'll ever switch back to titanium. Maybe kanthal one day, but I don't even see why I would do that. SS produces the bast vape I've had and I have the temp way down at like 300 something. So I believe the temp readings are more accurate.

If you are not using titanium properly, don't use it. SS has a single advantage, you can use it in both power and TC modes. Titanium's advantages are a much higher TCR, and thus more accurate in TC mode. Grade 1 titanium is a pure metal, not an alloy like SS.

I've gotten more into SS recently, because Evolv's latest DNA firmware made SS vaping much smoother, don't know how they did it, and obviously they don't say.

I still prefer the perfectly clean Vape of a titanium G1 pure coil, and that the research I have read makes me believe that is the healthiest choice of metal wire today. But I do use both these days, my lungs are old, so I doubt any metal is going to kill me any faster. If I were young however, I might not feel the same way. Do your homework, make these decisions on what science you can find and choose to believe in.

But difficulties or bad experiences in using titanium would be user error, or lack of knowledge and experience, not the choice of wire.

 

[trentenmarschel]

If you are not using titanium properly, don't use it. SS has a single advantage, you can use it in both power and TC modes. Titanium's advantages are a much higher TCR, and thus more accurate in TC mode. Grade 1 titanium is a pure metal, not an alloy like SS.

I've gotten more into SS recently, because Evolv's latest DNA firmware made SS vaping much smoother, don't know how they did it, and obviously they don't say.

I still prefer the perfectly clean Vape of a titanium G1 pure coil, and that the research I have read makes me believe that is the healthiest choice of metal wire today. But I do use both these days, my lungs are old, so I doubt any metal is going to kill me any faster. If I were young however, I might not feel the same way. Do your homework, make these decisions on what science you can find and choose to believe in.

But difficulties or bad experiences in using titanium would be user error, or lack of knowledge and experience, not the choice of wire.

Agree, Plus I can dry burn ss as much as I want without fear of oxidizing it. Not sure why it works at such low temps, but with the day, no, week I've been having I really really don't care. As long as it works I'm happy.

 

[trentenmarschel]

That resistance doesn't sound right at all. What's the inner diameter of the coil?

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should be 3mm I used a coil tool to make it and then just pulled it out to space it. I did a lot of dry burns to make sure it glowed right from center. Works great.