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And especially if it's forcing the new "simplified" interface... do not want. ;)

I don't get the "we'll give you less information and call it an update" either. I could understand a "simplified" display for people with poor vision, but it should be an "option."
 

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I don't get the "we'll give you less information and call it an update" either. I could understand a "simplified" display for people with poor vision, but it should be an "option."

They brought the original screen/view back in the new firmware:

Annnnd the Volt display is back for those that were crying about it before... :lol:

Fozzy71 beat me to it. :D :p

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no changes to tc functionality in new firmware, just new view modes like puff counter. preheat is for vw mode. tc mode is preheat by design by setting your max watts in tc mode to get up to temp then watts are lowered to maintain temps.
Ah, puff time is important to me for a few reasons, would love to have it in my Pico. It's hard to tell if the firmware applies to the Mega but I assume it does. I got a mega to see if the extra mah of a 26650 will get me through a full day with some to spare. A single HG2 gets me through a day with nothing to spare. If I can compare Mega puff times with the Pico and VTC mini I'll have some definitive answers about reletive endurance.

BTW I got a Mega and it's an interesting experience. It's the easiest to handle since my istick 50 but harder to fish out of a pocket. If it has better endurance there are situations where I'll carry it. And it's nice to have a device that's so easy to hang on to (nearly everything I carry is in a silicone sleeve).
 

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The 100w has new firmware with VW preheat and among the new interface options is one with volts visible again if that is what you were missing from the simplified interface - Softwares for iStick TC100W - Eleaf electronic cigarette

Thanks!

I'd been stalking that page since the PH came out for the VTC, but stopped about a week ago when the laptop with the "new tab" bookmark had a power supply failure.

Still... if you can verify that it's non-op in TC, then it's of near zero use to me. :(
Is that conjecture, or do you have a source?
 
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They brought the original screen/view back in the new firmware:

I'd love to have that new "Round" Cuboid UI on the Pico... :eek: :p

That is bad and you should feel bad. :(
You are dead to me now. :mad:

:D

If you mean the little circles... no, just no.

It took three days for them to release the second VTC w/PH and the previous UI.
I wonder about the RX. It came out a few weeks ago but mine's borked so I never checked what the display looks like, or if they released two versions.

JTech is giving lessons on how to do mod updates... but they can screw up an interface like nobody's business. :p
 

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Thanks!

I'd been stalking that page since the PH came out for the VTC, but stopped about a week ago when the laptop with the "new tab" bookmark had a power supply failure.

Still... if you can verify that it's non-op in TC, then it's of near zero use to me. :(
Is that conjecture, or do you have a source?
It is the same preheat functionality as the wismec rx200s and rx2/3 that I have been using for a few weeks, and have already installed it on my pico and 200tc and been using it there. You can download the firmware instructions and read that it is only VW preheat, no TC functionality changes other than the the display changes in those modes.
 

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It is the same preheat functionality as the wismec rx200s and rx2/3 that I have been using for a few weeks, and have already installed it on my pico and 200tc and been using it there. You can download the firmware instructions and read that it is only VW preheat, no TC functionality changes other than the the display changes in those modes.

Thanks, I hadn't grabbed the info file yet as it appears to be a zip file.
But I'll take your word for it... bad news that it is. :(
 

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the info file is a pdf file. Here are the pico instructions, I assume the 100w instructions are similar but I don't have that mod (I do have the 200TC) so I didn't download those instructions:

Instructions on Firmware V1.03
Switching interfaces:
In power-on state:
1. Choose VW mode;
2. Keep holding “+” and fire buttons till the current interface flashes;
3. When it’s flashing, press “+”or “-” button to switch among different interfaces;
4. Press fire button once to confirm the interface you chose.
Note: the interfaces can only be changed and selected under VW mode in power-on
state. And when one interface is selected under VW mode, the interface of TC (Ni, Ti,
SS, M1, M2, M3) modes will change accordingly and automatically.

Preheat function:
In power-off state:
1. Keep holding “+” and fire buttons till the M1 mode appears;
2. Press the fire button 3 times to “Power”, and press “+”or “-” button to adjust the
wattage of preheat;
3. Press the fire button again to “Time”, and press “+”or “-” button to adjust the
second of preheat or to turn off the preheat function.
 

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Thanks, I hadn't grabbed the info file yet as it appears to be a zip file.
But I'll take your word for it... bad news that it is. :(
It's not really needed in tc though. Simply adjusting the watts higher should have the same function.

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the info file is a pdf file. Here are the pico instructions, I assume the 100w instructions are similar but I don't have that mod (I do have the 200TC) so I didn't download those instructions:

Instructions on Firmware V1.03
...

Preheat function:
In power-off state:
1. Keep holding “+” and fire buttons till the M1 mode appears;
2. Press the fire button 3 times to “Power”, and press “+”or “-” button to adjust the
wattage of preheat;
3. Press the fire button again to “Time”, and press “+”or “-” button to adjust the
second of preheat or to turn off the preheat function.

Right... similar to the VTC PH procedure, IIRC, though I haven't played with it.
Doesn't exclude TC though that I can see.
 

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Right... similar to the VTC PH procedure, IIRC, though I haven't played with it.
Doesn't exclude TC though that I can see.
Right but I can confirm it doesn't work in TC mode on my RX mods where you can see watts being delivered when in TC mode. You can't ever see the watts being delivered by the pico when in TC mode so it's impossible to be sure but I assume it is VW mode only like the Wismec.
 

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Evolve might disagree with you, probably Dicodes as well.
Of course they would, it's in their interest. But what is the point with preheat in tc mode anyway, does it in some very noticeable way differ from simply increasing the watts while maintaining the temp setting?

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Of course they would, it's in their interest. But what is the point with preheat in tc mode anyway, does it in some very noticeable way differ from simply increasing the watts while maintaining the temp setting?

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PH should cut-out before reaching TC set temp... in fact, that's exactly what the DNA's "Punch" parameter controls.
And of course it's in their interest, I should think they invented it.
You can use a DNA PH in Power mode too, it's a simple setup trick, but I doubt many users buy a DNA for Power mode.

But I can see a good use for it that way, though I don't have anything to use it on at the moment.
It would be advantageous even at low watts, while in TC you wouldn't see a difference (I think) on our single cell 75 waters. I wanted it for my 100TCs (120W) where I might setup for eg. 70w with a 100w PH, not the build I'd use regularly on a Pico or VTC.

It'll be later this week (if at all) that I get my HP lappy back up and running.
It looks like the 3rd party editor or similar s/w now includes an EScribe-like graphing monitor.
If I grab the new JT update(s), I'll see if I can get that running as well and see what's what.

(It wouldn't matter what the Pico ,RX or VTC display on their screens realtime... I can't focus that close. ;) )
 
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PH should cut-out before reaching TC set temp... in fact, that's exactly what the DNA's "Punch" parameter controls.
And of course it's in their interest, I should think they invented it.
You can use a DNA PH in Power mode too, it's a simple setup trick, but I doubt many users buy a DNA for Power mode.

But I can see a good use for it that way, though I don't have anything to use it on at the moment.
It would be advantageous even at low watts, while in TC you wouldn't see a difference (I think) on our single cell 75 waters. I wanted it for my 100TCs (120W) where I might setup for eg. 70w with a 100w PH, not the build I'd use regularly on a Pico or VTC.

It'll be later this week (if at all) that I get my HP lappy back up and running.
It looks like the 3rd party editor or similar s/w now includes an EScribe-like graphing monitor.
If I grab the new JT update(s), I'll see if I can get that running as well and see what's what.

(It wouldn't matter what the Pico ,RX or VTC display on their screens realtime... I can't focus that close. ;) )
I just don't feel that the DNA preheat adds that much over setting the watts higher.

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No chance to use it yet but I upgraded my Mega and have the puff timer displayed. Tomorrow my Pico will get the same treatment. I try to keep close track of how much I vape. The puff timer is a useful part of that. The only thing I regretted about the Pico was no puff timer. Apparently that has been addressed and the Pico and Mega become more valuable devices for me. Thanks Eleaf or whoever you are.
 

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So I recorded puff time in seconds until an LG HG2 was exhausted (1030 seconds at 400 degrees, 30 watts max on a 1.34 ohm stainless coil). Does anybody know how to zero out the seconds?

Now I'm counting the seconds with the same atomizer, build, and settings on a Mega with a 26650 battery to see if it does any better.
 

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So I recorded puff time in seconds until an LG HG2 was exhausted (1030 seconds at 400 degrees, 30 watts max on a 1.34 ohm stainless coil).
Does anybody know how to zero out the seconds?
Now I'm counting the seconds with the same atomizer, build, and settings on a Mega with a 26650 battery to see if it does any better.

@sofarsogood
when ya get the NUMBER flashing - HOLD the FIRE button till it shows all 0000000

all a big mistake by me (was using my vtc mini)

guess v1.00 Pico doesn't even have counters :blush: :confused:

sorry
 
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