Eleaf iStick "pico"

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Mactavish

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Live preheat is nice because:
- you might have actually forgotten what you set it up to
- even if you can't read exact figures while vaping you would still be able to see when it makes the switch to normal wattage... and then compare that to your brain thinking it has made the switch.

Live wattage in temp mode is nice because:
- you can find out at what part of the vape the wattage gets throttled and can shift that moment by adjusting max wattage

All of this is nice because people in forums are usually enthusiasts and want bells and whistles.

If you really desire "bells and whistles", consider a DNA mod.
 

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If you really desire "bells and whistles", consider a DNA mod.
Still waiting for a true Mini DNA mod... (I'm hoping the Elfin DNA 40 will get upgraded with a DNA 60 chip)

Considering bells and whistles current Joyetech / Eleaf mods actually have pretty much anything I would need (preheat and max wattage in temp mode are the key features to me). It's just puzzling that one of them can't get the interface right even if its mother company is leading with such a great example.
 

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I didn't realize that it couldn't be used with SS or Ti.

Now you know. It's the reason many hope to see the smaller DNA60 chip, in smaller mods. But with all this greedy FDA nonsense, it may never happen, at least in the US. While I'm always looking at tiny mods, and I have quite a few, I still find myself reaching for my DNA's these days. My new VaporShark DNA75, has become my favorite. I'm beginning to finally realize that all my mini mods including the Pico, are really not that much smaller, and the vape quality trade off compared to my DNA's is really not worth it. Now a DNA60, in a small as possible box, would be the best of all choices, but I'm not sure if I'll ever see one.
 

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Live preheat is nice because:
- you might have actually forgotten what you set it up to
- even if you can't read exact figures while vaping you would still be able to see when it makes the switch to normal wattage... and then compare that to your brain thinking it has made the switch.

Live wattage in temp mode is nice because:
- you can find out at what part of the vape the wattage gets throttled and can shift that moment by adjusting max wattage

All of this is nice because people in forums are usually enthusiasts and want bells and whistles.
Excellent! :thumbs:
 

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I didn't realize that it couldn't be used with SS or Ti.
I didn't either, been running my hana one's in TC with my JT BF SS coils in the Cubis and Cubis Pro tabnks and it gives a great vape, but then I am not picky and don't grab them often lately. Guess I should grab 2 and turn off TC on one and compare to see if I notice any difference.
 
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Live preheat is nice because:
- you might have actually forgotten what you set it up to
- even if you can't read exact figures while vaping you would still be able to see when it makes the switch to normal wattage... and then compare that to your brain thinking it has made the switch.

Live wattage in temp mode is nice because:
- you can find out at what part of the vape the wattage gets throttled and can shift that moment by adjusting max wattage

All of this is nice because people in forums are usually enthusiasts and want bells and whistles.
Oddly, the way i hold mine i can read most of the display fine. I hold it at like a 30 degree angle.

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Oddly, the way i hold mine i can read most of the display fine. I hold it at like a 30 degree angle.

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I assume I can't see any of the displays on any of my mods as I have never cared to try and look, don't care as long as I get a vape.
 

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I assume I can't see any of the displays on any of my mods as I have never cared to try and look, don't care as long as I get a vape.
I guess you can look at it this way. If you can see the display, then its nice to have. If not then who gives a crap.

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Now you know. It's the reason many hope to see the smaller DNA60 chip, in smaller mods. But with all this greedy FDA nonsense, it may never happen, at least in the US. While I'm always looking at tiny mods, and I have quite a few, I still find myself reaching for my DNA's these days. My new VaporShark DNA75, has become my favorite. I'm beginning to finally realize that all my mini mods including the Pico, are really not that much smaller, and the vape quality trade off compared to my DNA's is really not worth it. Now a DNA60, in a small as possible box, would be the best of all choices, but I'm not sure if I'll ever see one.
I want to own an evolv product only because it can gather detailed information about how I vape through the day. After that I don't really want my vape to get "better". Then my requirements go up and stockpiling gets more complicated and expensive and worst of all, may be my daily ml's go up. Ignorance is bliss.

I have several size mods to choose from. Most days I'm reluctant to swap the Pico for one of the other choices because it's the easiest to pocket and the most discrete.
 
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Greetings -

I have a Pico on the way. I've read the manual and various specs. I've not yet done Temperature Control and there is one matter I don't quite understand.

Modes include TC for Ni, Ti and SS AND M1, M2, M3. I'm not able to wrap my head around the differences between TC-Ni, etc., and M1, etc.

I'm guessing that the Ni, Ti, and SS TC settings are a fixed preset from the factory and that M1, M2, and M3 are user settings where "M#" is a Memory position. ...user settings in a choice of 3 Memories.

Then again, I'm not too sure of this.

Does someone care to provide clarification?
 

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Greetings -

I have a Pico on the way. I've read the manual and various specs. I've not yet done Temperature Control and there is one matter I don't quite understand.

Modes include TC for Ni, Ti and SS AND M1, M2, M3. I'm not able to wrap my head around the differences between TC-Ni, etc., and M1, etc.

I'm guessing that the Ni, Ti, and SS TC settings are a fixed preset from the factory and that M1, M2, and M3 are user settings where "M#" is a Memory position. ...user settings in a choice of 3 Memories.

Then again, I'm not too sure of this.

Does someone care to provide clarification?

Happy to help.

the TC just means Temperature control.

The Ni means it is used for Nickel wire coils. (not Nichrome can be confusing :) )
SS Means it is for Stainless Steel wire builds.(Like notch coils and such)
Ti is for Titanium wire builds.

The M1,2,3 are for user set TCR Temperature Coefficient of Resistance settings. In these settings you have 3 different profiles that you can set your own TCR setting to. I would recommend you do research into what TCR is, and how it works before you mess with these modes. (you can often find specific TCR settings for different types of wire to use in these modes.) I don't generally mess with that, Others can explain that one better.

So Each type of wire has different resistance when the wire heats up, and the Pico uses that known changing of resistance to predict what temperature the wire is at. That is how it is able to work in Temperature control mode without burning the wick.

Most people generally use the Stainless steel wire (I've recently switched to using only SS wire) and for that wire you would only use TC SS mode, or regular wattage mode.

If you get adventurous, you can try titanium wire which would have to be used in TcTi mode.

for wires like kanthal, you can't use that in TC mode, Kanthal is only used in Wattage mode.

There are a lot of Temperature wires, but the major ones are Stainless, Titanium, and Nickel. You can use Stainless in either TC mode or Wattage mode.

Here are some links that may help. I'm sure others will explain in more depth if needed.

Wire types

Guide to TC vaping

TC control explained
 
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Greetings -

I have a Pico on the way. I've read the manual and various specs. I've not yet done Temperature Control and there is one matter I don't quite understand.

Modes include TC for Ni, Ti and SS AND M1, M2, M3. I'm not able to wrap my head around the differences between TC-Ni, etc., and M1, etc.

I'm guessing that the Ni, Ti, and SS TC settings are a fixed preset from the factory and that M1, M2, and M3 are user settings where "M#" is a Memory position. ...user settings in a choice of 3 Memories.

Then again, I'm not too sure of this.

Does someone care to provide clarification?
When I vaped my 1.4 ohm coils in watts mode with 28 guage kanthal wire I set watts at 20 which sometimes meant I needed to take a puff or two before things were warmed up to where I wanted. Today I vape 28 guage stainless wire at 1.4 ohm. The difference is power is set at 30 watts and max temp at 400 degrees.

Now the wire and wick get to the temperature I want in the first fraction of a second but there is no over heating because of the temperature limit. The resistance of kanthal wire changes too little as it heats up so the mod cannot use a resistance change to estimate and limit temperature. Stainless and several other metals do increase resistance as their temperature increases.

The mod is programed with the relationship between resistance change and temperature rise for the various metals and uses that to limit watts going through the wire. You have to tell it what metal is in the wire or you can program a profile you prefer in M1.2.3.
 
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