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I have both the Vamo V5 and V6 I just got into just before seeing the iSticks and not constantly using them I find myself using the other newer APVs consistently. But that's typical here anyways since I might 2 or 3 batteries and mods going at once. Since the iSticks were bought for on the go usage I tend to run the eGo-V V/W batteries while keeping the Vamo Fire/ZNA 50 at the desktop or smok BEC Pro going while catching a few shows or a movie that had to be kept in another stand. Plus I now as of late have a pair of smok epipes! :laugh:

Do you use you Vamo's in mean mode? I also bought the Vamo about a month before the isick. Used it every day and really liked it until the isticks arrived. Wow, what a difference. My poor Vamo only sees my lips once a week now, if that much.
 

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That's actually false..... Even though the battery life is good, if rms was used and nothing else changed the battery life would be better

So your telling us that it would take longer to drink 1.057 quarts of water than 1 Liter of water, or that a 100 mm mod is longer than a 3.937 inch mod? RMS and mean are simply units of measurements, if the coil is heated to the same temperature and puffed the same, neither unit of measurement will make the battery last longer.
 

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Absolutely false. Mean and rms are not "just units of measurement" they are the equation by which your device is regulated. The measurement would be in the output, which we all know are drastically off in our isticks. More accurate regulation would mean less waist and longer battery life. This is simple electrical theory, and of you don't think so, go watch pbusario's review video
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Addendum: Saying they are just units of measurement that maker no difference is like saying 100 watts max power is the same as 100 watts rms in a stereo.... Both ways to measure out put, but the rms one will have quite a bit higher output
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So you're saying 100 'watts' should be the same regardless of the unit of measurement used? ..:lol:
Define your units and then measure.....
 
I also have cut a new top cap for my first iStick (now dead). I'm simply waiting for a new chipset to transplant. I may just cut another top cap for my new iStick. My design is half the height of the one you refer to. It was just my preference.

Good Luck!
What's up with these cap cuttings again? I have 2 Isticks myself and looking for the most I can get. Thx
 

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So you're saying 100 'watts' should be the same regardless of the unit of measurement used? ..:lol:
Define your units and then measure.....


No, I'm saying that different methods DON'T equal the same thing, as you stated. I'm not going to get drawn into a long argument over rms vs mean. I'm only going to say what I said was true, any electrical engineer would agree, and there is a reason rms is the industry standard
 
That's actually false..... Even though the battery life is good, if rms was used and nothing else changed the battery life would be better

Maybe I just don't know or care enough about electrical theory, electronics, pulse wavelengths and whatever else to see the significance. I know that I'm vaping the same juices at 6.5w on my iStick that I was vaping at 11w on my MVP, getting the same vapor and taste, and am averaging about three days life out of one iStick as a relatively heavy vaper.( 2200mah on the iStick, 2600mah on the MVP, but the same battery life in my practical experience, so I assumed with my limited knowledge that the iStick is lasting as long as the MVP because of the wattage difference in what I'm running each unit at.) If they were to switch to rms, and I could get four days, that would be super, but I'm not really expecting that out of a 30 dollar device. I'm happy with the performance of my iSticks, I don't feel like they perform worse than my MVP or any other mod I've tried, and I'm ok with occasionally having to change my wattage up to compensate for whatever quirks it might have. I prefer the whole setup knowing that if I drop it in the toilet, run over it with a tractor, or lose it I am out thirty bucks and can order a replacement cheaply.

It's satisfying, cheap and works. I don't really feel a great need to understand how or why, and don't know that I could tell a difference if the frequency were to change. I like some of Pbusardo's videos, but I don't really care to hear a 40 minute breakdown of all the electrical science behind my device including charts and graphs etc. Maybe if it were some really expensive high performance mod that I was dropping three hundred bucks on, even though I probably still wouldn't understand it. I don't understand what makes my phone work, either, I just need it to make calls when I need it to.
 

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Agreed. I have just thrown four brand new Aspire BVC heads in the rebuild pile.

Sad, actually. They're pretty good.
Certainly makes one think twice. The head duel between Kanger & Aspire is sure heating up! Kanger using Japanese cotton in the Subtank was a wise move. Guess we'll see if Aspire reacts
Never rebuilt those--do you know of any good videos or threads on the subject? I rebuild Kangers vertically so maybe it's not much different.
 

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Certainly makes one think twice. The head duel between Kanger & Aspire is sure heating up! Kanger using Japanese cotton in the Subtank was a wise move. Guess we'll see if Aspire reacts
Never rebuilt those--do you know of any good videos or threads on the subject? I rebuild Kangers vertically so maybe it's not much different.

I routinely rebuild my Kangers with BVCs. I haven't rebuilt an Aspire head yet.

Rip has a video with one method. Probably a good place to start...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zBGH2wpnPE
 

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What works for you, works for you. But I would bet if you did a true blind test, same tanks and coils at the same true output, and if you didn't get to hold the unit so you didn't know which one was being used, you would pick the MVP as the better vape due to its higher pwm freq.
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Do you use you Vamo's in mean mode? I also bought the Vamo about a month before the isick. Used it every day and really liked it until the isticks arrived. Wow, what a difference. My poor Vamo only sees my lips once a week now, if that much.

At this time having both the V5 bought over the summer and the V6 in September while also looking at the V7 and V8 models after I already had theV6 I would have one of the two on at the same time I had one of the eGo batteries going since I always keep a tank of a menthol flavor close by. Plus I sample flavors on the different batteries, APVs, and mods to evaluate each new one. At first sight I was actually hesitant about even ordering one. But I looked at how those could be used when on the go. After the first few weeks the other new mods came in however plus the two Smok Guardian epipes having ordered the mech while waiting for a preordered Guardian II to arrive.

As far as either Vamo V5 or V6 it depends where I am far as the usage since I have one on each mod stand. As for mean or RMS I either turn one on or I don't since I don't keep track on that aspect. When using any of these batteries, mods, or APVs I generally don't spend time doing the math but adjust the wattage or voltage as on one of the eGo Twist batteries to find the right place for the particular flavor and tank in use. I've made a number of comparisons however between the differences in amperages as well as stability when pulling on the battery or mod including the Vamos to note how they effect a tank with a new flavor when moving it around. The wattage would set the same on the battery, Vamo, MVP, VTR with the notes taken on how the vape went on each befween sealed battery mod, eGo battery, and 18650 powered.

Another article that simply reaffirms my experiences with Chinese manufacturers. I guess we should all know what we're up against. Here's hoping the FDA doesn't mess things up royally...

China’s E-Cigarette Boom Lacks Oversight for Safety

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/14/b...te-boom-lacks-oversight-for-safety-.html?_r=0

Well this is what I was reflecting on earlier about how the quality can end up taking a serious hit when companies rush to top each other. At first you end up with a larger variety of hardwares to pick over but only after some time do you see all the bugs worked out usually with the second or third version,. The MVP 1 had a usb port switch problem corrected with the 2.0 and now the 20w is out rather then the limited 6-11w which was kind of a waste there since everybody was 3w or 6w upto 15w when that first came out. I suspect the rush to get these compact mods out will run into some issues with the Beyang, Cloupor mini 30w now seen, the latest 50w are the ECig V9 with some interesting items like multiple color leds!
 

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