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There's no mistake about that being a Nautilus with a close look at the stainless steel portion at the top with the thumb grip type grooving. I suspect the bands were slipped on to act as protection for the glass portion of the tank.

Two of the five Nautilus 5ml tanks here saw the SS replacement go on as well as replacing the glass with stainless on the two Mini tanks used on the pair of iSticks here. The fwo full size with stainless are on the Smok Guardian E-Pipe II mod that just came and the Vamo Fire wood bodied APV I tend to walk around with at times. I had one of the iSticks sitting there with the Aerotank Mini and Eleaf Ohm and Power meter when grabbing a snapshot of the Vamo Fire and eGo-V batteries the day those came in the meter ordered at AtlantA Vapor coming in the same day.

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Well tonight my iStick decided that everything was an Atomizer Short tonight, I pulled up on the pin and that didn't solve my issue at all. So when stuff stops working one tears it apart to see the issue.


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You can see the cheap stock rubber insulator on the lower left, it had totally split in half causing the pin to short against the case. I compared the KangerTech BDC updated coil insulator with the Aspire BVC Insulator and the KangerTech is silicone so it will withstand the heat of a soldering iron.

Turn off the iStick with 5 clicks. Remove the top two T4 screws, hold the iStick with the button panel facing down and pull out the internals as far as they will go. (Picture shows how far they will come out.) You only need to unsolder the Red wire from the 510 pin and push the pin back up through the hole in the case top and remove the old rubber insulator if it is still on the pin.

Take out the insulator from the KangerTech Updated BDC coil and put the end that was inside the coil body down through the hole in the top of the iStick. One end of the insulator has more of a shoulder than the other and you want that end next to the 510 pin top.

With the new silicone insulator installed in the hole, push your 510 pin carefully through it from the top, soldered end first. Resolder the red wire to the 510 pin, turn the iStick back on with 5 clicks and test it with an atty.

If all is good then turn it off again. Hold the iStick with the button panel facing down and slide the battery and board back into the case. If you don't hold it with the buttons facing down they will catch on the board switches.

Carefully tuck the wires back in as you push the case top back in place. Check all around it as you do this to make sure there are no wires jammed it the top or around the screw holes, put the case screws back in the top and test the unit again.

I can't tell you how long the KangerTech silicone insulator will last, but I will be finding out for sure!
 

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very nice job! TrollDragon I e-mailed Eleaf and asked if they would make the chrome 510 top cap available, for sale. Their first response was that they would forward my suggestion to the R&D team. :facepalm: 2nd e-mail, Will you make the existing part available? Myself and others have iSticks with bad threading and need replacements. I'll post what they say. Course it would be better if it was stainless, and a better insulator, and a spring loaded pin. hmm.. need start up capital.. partner.. and of course FDA on our side.. :unsure:

their reply:

Dear friend,
Thanks for your reply and sorry for the inconvenience.
We understand what you mean, but now we don't have this accessory.
Hope you can understand and if any problems feel free to contact us.
 
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On my one warped threaded iStick, I was still having connection issues with the bending adapter installed. The spring loaded pin was depressing too hard on the 510 connection obliterating a resistance reading and causing "atomizer low/short message." Basically, the atty would be raised above the bending adapter to read properly; if it was screwed down flush, no reading.

So I finally got smart and just placed a spare O ring under the bending adapter and now it works as it should. Luckily I have spare O rings galore due to owning 8 RTAs and several drippers ;) The first one I tried was too thick; the second one works, but the clasp on the bending adapter doesn't snap into place. But at least it's reading the atty while sitting flush.

A quick, dirty fix.

Although I picked up an IPV Mini, I still prefer my iSticks as my daily carry to work.
 

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There's no mistake about that being a Nautilus with a close look at the stainless steel portion at the top with the thumb grip type grooving. I suspect the bands were slipped on to act as protection for the glass portion of the tank.

Two of the five Nautilus 5ml tanks here saw the SS replacement go on as well as replacing the glass with stainless on the two Mini tanks used on the pair of iSticks here. The fwo full size with stainless are on the Smok Guardian E-Pipe II mod that just came and the Vamo Fire wood bodied APV I tend to walk around with at times. I had one of the iSticks sitting there with the Aerotank Mini and Eleaf Ohm and Power meter when grabbing a snapshot of the Vamo Fire and eGo-V batteries the day those came in the meter ordered at AtlantA Vapor coming in the same day.

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Again the pic in my post is MY nautilus :) I was asking about his kayfun lite :)
 

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very nice job! TrollDragon I e-mailed Eleaf and asked if they would make the chrome 510 top cap available, for sale. Their first response was that they would forward my suggestion to the R&D team. :facepalm: 2nd e-mail, Will you make the existing part available? Myself and others have iSticks with bad threading and need replacements. I'll post what they say. Course it would be better if it was stainless, and a better insulator, and a spring loaded pin. hmm.. need start up capital.. partner.. and of course FDA on our side.. :unsure:

their reply:

Dear friend,
Thanks for your reply and sorry for the inconvenience.
We understand what you mean, but now we don't have this accessory.
Hope you can understand and if any problems feel free to contact us.

I would suggest to them that they use the spring-loaded pin from the bending adapter and install it in the iStick instead of having us buy another accessory. :p
 

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Guys, I just got the leather case/lanyard for my Istick for $2.97 (including shipping) from The Vapor Room.

Plus, I got a free 15ml for being a first time customer. The free 15ml is detailed in a tab on the lower left of the page.

15ml + Leather case/lanyard for less than $3.00 shipped? Crazy Good Deal!

Use code HOLIDAY15 for 15% off your order. Eleaf iStick Leather Case w/ Lanyard

Got my case and a bottle of juice! Very nice and a great deal! Thanks for sharing the info! :)
 

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Got my case and a bottle of juice! Very nice and a great deal! Thanks for sharing the info! :)
I ordered 2 right after seeing the post. Got an email from them saying this
Thank you for your order, Unfortunately we are waiting on our shipment of Eleaf lanyards, and we wanted to know if you would like us to hold your order and ship them when they come in or would you like to be refunded. So sorry for the inconvenience and please let me at your earliest convenience what you would like to do! Have a great holiday season!!
I replied that I would wait.
 

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If you are a moderate vapor, say 15W or below, the iStick will outlast any of the DNA 30 boxes, authentic or clone.

LiPo batteries have a very different discharge curve, allowing more usable Ah above our APV's battery cut-off level (3.2-3.5V). The other reason the iStick's battery level shines is it's limit of "20W". A 20W APV pulls a maximum current off the battery of just under 7A. A 30W APV pulls a maximum of 10.5A. 30 Watts requires us to use a "high drain" battery for safety purposes. High drain batteries (20-30A) sport 2000-2500 mAh where 10A batteries live around 3000 mAh. Also remember that the iStick, at approximately 2/3 it's battery charge, drops it's peak voltage in the PWM cycle to 4.8V, when set to 4.8V or less. This adds to the iStick's battery efficiency.

A far majority of vapers are at 20W or less. The new Atlantis and SubTank may change things a bit. These two really like power to shine, especially the Atlantis. Sweet spot for the SubTank seems to be 25ish. Sweet spot for the Atlantis is over 30, about 32W. The SubTank shines from 15-30W. The Atlantis shines from 30-35W. Problems I see? Vapers may have to purchase a new APV to go along with the new tanks. We don't want to run our APVs at their max wattage for extended periods of time. Expect needing at least a 30W device for the SubTank and a 40W device for the Atlantis. Give yourself a 2-4W cushion above your sweet spot to be nice to your APV. As always, YMMV.

To tie this all together... I fear vapers are not going to like battery life while using these new tanks. Most everything in vaping is a trade-off. I have found builds in all my atomizers that shine between 12 & 20W, even some of my RDAs. (I do tend to drip around 25W however.) If you're happy with the Nautilus or Aerotank you currently have, at 10-15W, think hard before getting the SubTank or Atlantis. It has been mentioned many times that the iStick paired with a Nautilus, Aerotank or RTA is a darned-good vape.

Hope everyone had a great weekend!

Great answer, thanks so much for the info. I'm running Kayfuns with 1.2 to 1.4 ohm coils. I usually run them at 20 watts or whatever is needed to get them to 5 volts. Do you think the Panasonic 18650 3400 Mah batteries are safe for me to use in the Chana 30 watt?
 

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If you are a moderate vapor, say 15W or below, the iStick will outlast any of the DNA 30 boxes, authentic or clone.

LiPo batteries have a very different discharge curve, allowing more usable Ah above our APV's battery cut-off level (3.2-3.5V). The other reason the iStick's battery level shines is it's limit of "20W". A 20W APV pulls a maximum current off the battery of just under 7A. A 30W APV pulls a maximum of 10.5A. 30 Watts requires us to use a "high drain" battery for safety purposes. High drain batteries (20-30A) sport 2000-2500 mAh where 10A batteries live around 3000 mAh. Also remember that the iStick, at approximately 2/3 it's battery charge, drops it's peak voltage in the PWM cycle to 4.8V, when set to 4.8V or less. This adds to the iStick's battery efficiency.

A far majority of vapers are at 20W or less. The new Atlantis and SubTank may change things a bit. These two really like power to shine, especially the Atlantis. Sweet spot for the SubTank seems to be 25ish. Sweet spot for the Atlantis is over 30, about 32W. The SubTank shines from 15-30W. The Atlantis shines from 30-35W. Problems I see? Vapers may have to purchase a new APV to go along with the new tanks. We don't want to run our APVs at their max wattage for extended periods of time. Expect needing at least a 30W device for the SubTank and a 40W device for the Atlantis. Give yourself a 2-4W cushion above your sweet spot to be nice to your APV. As always, YMMV.

To tie this all together... I fear vapers are not going to like battery life while using these new tanks. Most everything in vaping is a trade-off. I have found builds in all my atomizers that shine between 12 & 20W, even some of my RDAs. (I do tend to drip around 25W however.) If you're happy with the Nautilus or Aerotank you currently have, at 10-15W, think hard before getting the SubTank or Atlantis. It has been mentioned many times that the iStick paired with a Nautilus, Aerotank or RTA is a darned-good vape.

Hope everyone had a great weekend!

You are aware that the battery in the Istick isn't a LiPo, right?
 

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very nice job! TrollDragon I e-mailed Eleaf and asked if they would make the chrome 510 top cap available, for sale. Their first response was that they would forward my suggestion to the R&D team. :facepalm: 2nd e-mail, Will you make the existing part available? Myself and others have iSticks with bad threading and need replacements. I'll post what they say. Course it would be better if it was stainless, and a better insulator, and a spring loaded pin. hmm.. need start up capital.. partner.. and of course FDA on our side.. :unsure:

their reply:

Dear friend,
Thanks for your reply and sorry for the inconvenience.
We understand what you mean, but now we don't have this accessory.
Hope you can understand and if any problems feel free to contact us.

My guess is that they're just fine with us having to buy a new istick rather than making a $3 part available.
 

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You are aware that the battery in the Istick isn't a LiPo, right?


I know of no one having disassembled the battery in the iStick (yet). I am under the impression that it is a LiPo(ly) batt.
I am happy to be corrected if wrong. But this is a version of the battery that is used in the iStick. No?

http://www.globalmarket.com/product-info/polymer-cylindrical-battery-8355231.html

This is a photo of an early iStick battery, originally posted by KTMRider at post #5992...
The battery's chemistry is not mentioned on the labeling. It is Chinese made. I wouldn't bet on anything...

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Great answer, thanks so much for the info. I'm running Kayfuns with 1.2 to 1.4 ohm coils. I usually run them at 20 watts or whatever is needed to get them to 5 volts. Do you think the Panasonic 18650 3400 Mah batteries are safe for me to use in the Chana 30 watt?

Panasonic 18650 3400mAh NCR18650B

Pany's NCR18650B, rated for 3400mAh is also rated at a 2C maximum discharge rate, giving it a 6.8A maximum discharge. This is borderline acceptable for the iStick. I personally would not recommend it for use in a 30W device. You could use it in an emergency. BUT keep it NO MORE THAN 19W... Be careful with batteries. They can bite.
 
I know of no one who has disassembled the battery in the iStick. I am under the impression that it is a LiPo(ly) batt.
Correct me if I am wrong. But this is a version of the battery that is used in the iStick...

http://www.globalmarket.com/product-info/polymer-cylindrical-battery-8355231.html

Those are 18650 lithium batteries and certainly too large for the size of the iStick. When listening to all the hubla earlier about pwd and RMS and how the wave is and regarding what battery does go in...

LiPo batteries have a very different discharge curve, allowing more usable Ah above our APV’s battery cut-off level (3.2-3.5V). The other reason the iStick’s battery level shines is it’s limit of “20W”. A 20W APV pulls a maximum current off the battery of just under 7A. A 30W APV pulls a maximum of 10.5A. 30 Watts requires us to use a “high drain” battery for safety purposes. High drain batteries (20-30A) sport 2000-2500 mAh where 10A batteries live around 3000 mAh. Also remember that the iStick, at approximately 2/3 it’s battery charge, drops it’s peak voltage in the PWM cycle to 4.8V, when set to 4.8V or less. This adds to the iStick’s battery efficiency.

The blog also goes into the need for more available wattage for the latest sub ohm tanks as well. Battery Life; iStick vs DNA; LiPo vs 18650 Li-Ion/Hybrid; SubTank & Atlantis.
 
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