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Now see why couldn't I do that? Thanks! In ordering I bailed out for a minute. I think mine came with a 2 ohm coil I guess I want another one or pack or I wonder if I should try a 1 ohm just for the heck of it? Or 3? Just stay with 2 ohms huh? Im gonna wait till I hear what you guys think before I buy these and run off. Thanks!

Got a pack of 1.5's coming soon.
 

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I think your just running your istick too hot. Try and go down between 5.8 and 6.1 watts and tell me how it tastes. :)


Just tried 5.8 :).

It's better, but very rattle snakey. Vamo still smoother sounding. Maybe I just need to get the way it 'sounds' out of my head! I can live with it, just wanted to know if others had similar experiences.

Thanks for the input!
 

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Hmmm--do ya think the 50w istick timing had anything to do with this..
http://www.reddit.com/r/Innokin/comments/2qxxyp/the_itaste_mvp30_pictures_information_and_a/announcement
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Pricing should be interesting. Still like the iStick form factor though.

Colors look familiar!
 
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Wow, they really are doing the silicone cases: iStick silicone case

I'm totally taking credit for this btw. 100 pages of pleading worked!

Now, I'm completely sold on the silicone cases. Got mine from VapeNW for the eGrip, and it is FANTASTIC!! Fits like a glove, perfect cut-outs, and the hot pink is just rockin' the eGrip for us gals. :laugh:

Can't wait for them to be available for the istick!
 
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Anyone interested in an Istick mini, they are on sale at VaporDNA for 22.49 with coupon code DNA10.
iSmoka Eleaf iStick Mini 10 Watts Ultra Mini Mod

Just noticed this about it. I don't recall reading that before.
"Advanced User Item. Use at Your Own Risk! Do Not Fire Atomizer Resistance Lower Than 1 Ohm!"
So apparently it will let you try. If that's true, it's a fail.
I think it's cute, but I think it loses too much of the istick functionality and more than 1/2 the mah, to be 1/3rd smaller.
 

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I read somewhere earlier on this thread that someone had mentioned that the vamo rattlesnaked more than the istick, but I'm experiencing just the opposite. The istick sounds like it's violently struggling to maintain said voltage/wattage, and the vamo just sounds a lot smoother.

My understanding is that the VAMO's PWM duty cycle is 33Hz, whereas the iStick's is 48Hz. This means that the VAMO is switching between full power and no power 33 times per second, while the iStick 'cycles' or 'pulses' the same way 48 times per second. The "rattlesnake" effect is perceived as a sort of staccato drumming. How apparent that is depends on the difference between maximum and minimum voltages, amount/quality of filtering (i.e., smoothing) in the output stage, and the sensitivity of the user. Some vapers are bothered by the rattlesnake effect; others don't notice it much or don't mind it.

Not all PWM regulators produce rattlesnaking. Provaris, for instance, have very effective filtering built into their chip and vape almost as if the voltage were constant and steady. Other PWM-regulated APVs use little or no filtering, which makes the rattlesnaking more pronounced.

I, too, experience my VAMOs as slightly smoother than my iSticks, but I can sense the rattlesnake effect on both devices.
 

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My understanding is that the VAMO's PWM duty cycle is 33Hz, whereas the iStick's is 48Hz. This means that the VAMO is switching between full power and no power 33 times per second, while the iStick 'cycles' or 'pulses' the same way 48 times per second. The "rattlesnake" effect is perceived as a sort of staccato drumming. How apparent that is depends on the difference between maximum and minimum voltages, amount/quality of filtering (i.e., smoothing) in the output stage, and the sensitivity of the user. Some vapers are bothered by the rattlesnake effect; others don't notice it much or don't mind it.

Not all PWM regulators produce rattlesnaking. Provaris, for instance, have very effective filtering built into their chip and vape almost as if the voltage were constant and steady. Other PWM-regulated APVs use little or no filtering, which makes the rattlesnaking more pronounced.

I, too, experience my VAMOs as slightly smoother than my iSticks, but I can sense the rattlesnake effect on both devices.

I've watched pbusardo's video on both, and noticed that the vamo was operating at a lower Hz, making one think it would be even "rougher", but with the nautilus in particular, that hasn't been the case for me. A smoother, more stable signal just feels better for some reason; feels a little higher in quality, like a more "pure" experience to me. These are such subtle details..I want the istick to be perfect (to me, at least). I know it's 99% perfect to many people though. Of course these devices are night and day different than what I was using 3 years ago!

Provari took the time to make sure their device operated as smoothly as possible, signal-wise, so there's got to be some advantage to a smooth signal, right? They seem to be the pinnacle of performance, and the flat signal is just one of the many glaringly positive qualities of the device. I still love the form factor of the istick. I think it could really be a perfect device if tweaked electronically (and tighten up those rattly buttons :p).
 
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Hmmm--do ya think the 50w iStick timing had anything to do with this..

Pricing should be interesting. Still like the iStick form factor though.

Colors look familiar!

There is no doubt that the MVP3 will be a solid option for vapers. Sizes will be comparable. But the MVP3 looks to be a bit larger. Such is the price to pay for a bigger battery. But we have no specs yet. Innokin has a reputation for decent quality. Their 20W SVDv2 is selling for $75. What will the 30W MVP3 with a 3800mAh LiPo cost us?

I would also wait for future announcements. The teasers that Innokin dropped in the past clearly stated that the MVP3 base model would be at least 30W with a larger internal battery. They also mentioned that a higher powered upscale model would also be available. DNA 40?

'Tis an interesting, exciting and overwhelming time to be a vaper. I'm still waiting for others to separate the wheat from the chaff. I don't really like cream of chaff.
 
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From Heaven Gifts description
" Product Introduction
30W iStick battery mod can reach 30W max output wattage. The spring 510 connector ensures better connection with the atomizer. iSitck 30W can also support sub ohm coil. Full battery protection system gives you the best vaping experience."

Will be watching with interest...
 

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$49.99 for a 50W iStick? With a better connector, hopefully better threads and RMS? Yes please. Even if it's $55 that's still a very solid buy. Don't really care if there's no replaceable battery, if the battery gives out after a year, I'll just buy the updated version for a similar price. Even the 30W version is tempting as well to bring with me to work. Innokin seems to be shooting themselves in the foot though I'm sure the 30W MVP will be a great device. The problem is the price between the 50W iStick and 30W MVP will be close and you might as well opt for the extra 20W.
 

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Provari took the time to make sure their device operated as smoothly as possible, signal-wise, so there's got to be some advantage to a smooth signal, right? They seem to be the pinnacle of performance, and the flat signal is just one of the many glaringly positive qualities of the device. I still love the form factor of the istick. I think it could really be a perfect device if tweaked electronically (and tighten up those rattly buttons :p).

I agree on both counts. The ProVari's seemingly flat signal is a marvel of quality engineering---the gold standard of PWM, and the iStick's form factor---case proportions, shape, and ergonomics---are brilliant. I don't own five iStick's because they perform so much better than the many other APVs I own, but rather because of how the iStick feels in my hand as a vaping device. I'm not much of a sub-ohmer, so I don't really care about chasing megawatts, but the clunky cases of the Hana Clones and other hard-edged boxes is off-putting to me. In spite of the rock-solid build quality, the sheer size of the MVP 2 doomed it for me.
 
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