Eleaf Istick

[Night Hawk]

I checked the scratch and check code. The new tank that arrived today in the mail is definitely the authentic one. I got the 1st tank which was unknowingly a clone a few weeks ago and is working just fine.

-Rachel

When you start getting ejuice in the mouth the first thing is not assuming the tank is no good but to check to make sure the coil is secure and not loose! If the coil is flooded by chance which seems to be rare with the Aspire tanks from what I have been seeing so far try hitting the button as if you drying a soaking wet wick after washing the tank and soaking the coil over night. That will get the excess out of the way.

Also check the battery level as well as where the wattage is. IF too low for certain flavors step it up a notch or two. Some try running the Nautilus low at 7w which works for what they are vaping flavor/ejuice wise while others need at least 10w to fully vaporize! Even with the low wattage eGo type tanks like the Smok Tumblers I was finding that whenever a flavor would vape quick enough or the flavor was simply too oversweet raising the watts up from 7w to 10w smoothed things out on the spot. Any other time however 10w would simply be too hot! Even 8w was a bit over while 7w seemed about right.

With the new tanks coming out now they more or less are designed to start off at the higher watts on regulated mods. Yet with one vendor's first few flavors before seeing them produce more vaper higher wattage is out and putting the tank on a mech mod solved the problem for the Kraigen Atlantis tank full. There I ended up even lower with the 3.7v 18350 battery seeing 7.61w with a current pull of only 2.08Amps. I had turned it down to 9w and still wasn't enough apparently when getting that too hot while still getting some ejuice in the mouth effect.

 

[r77r7r]

Earl?? Really?? Who's in charge of picking product names over there? Ya know they had 10 meetings to come up with it too, lol.

 

[AnsonJames]

Authetic Istick 30's in Fasttech now if you don't mind the wait;
$40.73 Authentic Eleaf iStick 30W 2200mAh Variable Voltage / Wattage APV Box Mod - 2.0-8.0V / 5.0-30W / US plug adapter / blue at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[AnsonJames]

Tests by Hermits unite on V/Underground show the Istick 30 show that it's a high frequency filtered PWM device - it bucks as well as boosts which is great news.

It still fires "hotter" than it should but not as much as the I20, at 3 volts it fires at 3.38 which is very acceptable in my opinion.
As the tests stand the I30 is a very good device indeed, with some fine tuning it could be one of the best low price mods ever.

 

[jerseyman32]

Any info on the pwm on the 30watt, im hoping its a little bit closer to what its actually firing at.

 

[AnsonJames]

Any info on the pwm on the 30watt, im hoping its a little bit closer to what its actually firing at.

I asked what the frequency was but I haven't heard back yet - the Evic supreme I had fired at 100 hz, anything around that would make me happy - no discernible rattlesnake.

*edit*

Apparently it's 22khz - which is very high indeed.
I'm not an electronics whiz like some of the folks here but if I'm not mistaken it's higher than the Provari's PWM.

The filtering is out so it's not quite DC but it's still very,very good for a $40 device.

 

[snow blind]

I asked what the frequency was but I haven't heard back yet - the Evic supreme I had fired at 100 hz, anything around that would make me happy - no discernible rattlesnake.

*edit*

Apparently it's 22khz - which is very high indeed.
I'm not an electronics whiz like some of the folks here but if I'm not mistaken it's higher than the Provari's PWM.

The filtering is out so it's not quite DC but it's still very,very good for a $40 device.

I was stalking that thread on VU lol... was so happy to see the chart! The 50 watt better be as good... and in all likelihood it should be.

 

[aznnp77]

Tests by Hermits unite on V/Underground show the Istick 30 show that it's a high frequency filtered PWM device - it bucks as well as boosts which is great news.

It still fires "hotter" than it should but not as much as the I20, at 3 volts it fires at 3.38 which is very acceptable in my opinion.
As the tests stand the I30 is a very good device indeed, with some fine tuning it could be one of the best low price mods ever.

Thanks for the info. Maddening to hear that. I mean at least with the istick 20w it was easier. You just had to fire the think 1.0 volts lower than the screen said. You're saying 3.38? That's probably going to confuse me, but that's what pbusardo's charts are for.

I've started going up slightly in voltage with my 20w, and I know the discrepancy gets smaller as you go up. That's why I wanted a more accurate device. Last time I went to 3.5-3.7 on the 20w and burned my wick and had to deal with it the entire day.

 

[AnsonJames]

From what I've read on VU, the filtering on the I30 isn't as good as the Vari but frequency is thousands upon thousands higher - the filtering is the important aspect.

The 30 and the 50 still sound like even bigger game changers than the 20 was.

 

[jerseyman32]

Well .38 discrepancy is good in my book

 

[snow blind]

From what I've read on VU, the filtering on the I30 isn't as good as the Vari but frequency is thousands upon thousands higher - the filtering is the important aspect.

The 30 and the 50 still sound like even bigger game changers than the 20 was.

I really wonder how this all equates in vape quality with the 50 watt... i'm also concerned about higher wattage (at or near the 50 max) vaping with the 50w. What's it "actually" going to take us to build to keep it there.

 

[pcrdude]

I may be interested in the 30W if it will be able to match a 3.7V setting on a RMS calibrated mod, since I still use EVODs at that voltage for certain liquids.

This time, I'm waiting for more reviews, and accurate voltage measurements before jumping in.

Thanks to all in this thread!!!!

 

[snow blind]

I really wonder how this all equates in vape quality with the 50 watt... i'm also concerned about higher wattage (at or near the 50 max) vaping with the 50w. What's it "actually" going to take us to build to keep it there.

I've been vaping for 6 years... but quickly settled with mechanicals after the eGo craze. The 2 50W iSticks i ordered will be my first regulated boxes. What i still dont understand is even if the iStick 50W has a wider tolerance at settings than say a Sigelei 50 watt... wont the quality of vape be about the same when one figures out how to account for it's over/undershoot?

I've used a bunch friends Sigelei's boxes... the Zero DNA30 mod... a lot of authentic Hana's 20's - 40's... a ZNA and a HexOhm... all at lower to med wattages (nothing above 65W). Is there any hope of the iStick 50w delivering anything near the same quality as the "mainstream" boxes?

 

[AnsonJames]

I really wonder how this all equates in vape quality with the 50 watt... i'm also concerned about higher wattage (at or near the 50 max) vaping with the 50w. What's it "actually" going to take us to build to keep it there.

Sounds like they've done a lot of work on these newer models so I'm thinking they'll be good solid devices that will perform more or less as advertised.

Hoping this will be the case anyway.

 

[workman70]

Edited to remove comment

 

[Bikenstein]

Earl?? Really?? Who's in charge of picking product names over there? Ya know they had 10 meetings to come up with it too, lol.

..........Say what?

 

[Night Hawk]

I've been vaping for 6 years... but quickly settled with mechanicals after the eGo craze. The 2 50W iSticks i ordered will be my first regulated boxes. What i still dont understand is even if the iStick 50W has a wider tolerance at settings than say a Sigelei 50 watt... wont the quality of vape be about the same when one figures out how to account for it's over/undershoot?

I've used a bunch friends Sigelei's boxes... the Zero DNA30 mod... a lot of authentic Hana's 20's - 40's... a ZNA and a HexOhm... all at lower to med wattages (nothing above 65W). Is there any hope of the iStick 50w delivering anything near the same quality as the "mainstream" boxes?

The eGo craze isn't over since it's just beginning! The latest eGo II version of the Twist looks almost as large as a Vamo with that being 2200mah. With the eGo batteries there is one thing to know. You can go with the regular 3.7v, the Twist, or the VV/VW batteries and wonder which will outperform the others. It won't be the 3.7v or Twist! The 1300mah eGo-V V3 and now V4s are right up there with many box mods to start with. There's a bit of improvements going into them lately compared to how they were a couple of years ago.

As far as how the 50w model will stack up against the current trend of box mods remains to be seen! Smoktech has been boosting Bluetooth lately and offers upgradeable box mods with their new M series in contrast to their not too good Groove series. It leans more towards DovPo or Innokin then you know they put something into it.

 

[inspects]

I received my three 30W sub ohm iSticks yesterday evening.

Only tried one with a nautilus mini last night, works perfectly. I'll try the atlantis tank today. Feels like a solid mod, still has the noisy firing button if your into shaking it--

Now I'm waiting for my rDNA 40W Vapor Shark, after it arrives, I'm done buying for a while.

Buying vape gear can certainly become habit forming, but I like this habit. Surely beats the analog habit to death.

 

[Bikenstein]

I would have gone through 3 18490 batteries yesterday in the same time frame, but the 30 lasted almost 12 hours before droppin the last bar. I don't have the ability to detect minute differences in vape quality of one device over something similar or the refined palate that can detect a "hint of spice on the exhale". In a blind test, I probably couldn't differentiate between a few watts or tenths of a volt. But I will say this. I don't see any difference in vaping with the 30 at the same settings that I usually vape. So I give it a thumbs up for accuracy. The fire button is loose enough to go tink tink tink, but it has a feel and actuation that I like. It doesn't matter how I hold it, I can still fire it easily and positively. Other mods I find that I have held the button down by mistake frequently(prolly why my bats don't last). But I can hold the 30 in my fist with the button toward my palm even and have no worry, just clench my fist a little and it fires. Thumbs up on the button. I know that there are those that have more elevated requirements than I do and I respect that, But I don't need P Busardo or his charts to tell me yay or nay, The 30 is ALL and MORE than I expected it to be.

 

[snow blind]

The eGo craze isn't over since it's just beginning! The latest eGo II version of the Twist looks almost as large as a Vamo with that being 2200mah. With the eGo batteries there is one thing to know. You can go with the regular 3.7v, the Twist, or the VV/VW batteries and wonder which will outperform the others. It won't be the 3.7v or Twist! The 1300mah eGo-V V3 and now V4s are right up there with many box mods to start with. There's a bit of improvements going into them lately compared to how they were a couple of years ago.

As far as how the 50w model will stack up against the current trend of box mods remains to be seen! Smoktech has been boosting Bluetooth lately and offers upgradeable box mods with their new M series in contrast to their not too good Groove series. It leans more towards DovPo or Innokin then you know they put something into it.

I'm sure that the new eGo batts are great. Many like myself just used them when they were first released in 2007 because that's really all there was lol. Joyetech came out with them and i remember screwing a drilled out carto on mine and thinking wow... this is the future! Little did i know, right?! After discovering mechanical mods and rebuildable atomizers... i had no need for eGo style batts/carto-tanks etc. Just personal preference and how my vaping evolved.

In reference to performance i was trying to compare the 50W to one of the more "high end" boxes. I've never found the itastes and MVPs and the like satisfying to vape (again personal preference).