Eleaf Istick

[KODIAK (TM)]

My wife is a low voltage vaper. When we were using spinners she would NEVER go above 3.6 volts because she would say it tasted burnt or it was too hot. With her new istick, she has it set at 7 watts (3.6 volts) and she absolutely loves it. She tried it at 4 volts and loved it even more. I don't understand everyone that says anything other than its lowest setting is "too hot" and not to get it. I don't consider myself a high voltage vaper at all and I can take my kayfun Mini up to 15 watts and it still tastes great.

The missing info here is what coil resistance is she using? And I've never used the spinners but they're cheap enough to make me wonder if they actually step down the voltage? If not then they would vape similarly to the istick and her results would be expected.

Just saying that many of us can notice stepped-down mod filtering. Regardless of me, good for your lady!

 

[gerrymi]

OK... So I Guess I Shouldn't show you this 5W ~ 36W one?

Zgripper 36 by Tobeco - Vapor Tek USA

Vapor Joes linked to this in early September. By the time I decided to buy one (about 3 days) it was OOS. It's continued to be OOS since.

BTW - Here is one that is Supposed to go from 3W ~ 50W. Nicer Looking to me.

Newest VV VW Box Mod 50Watt ACE50 Mod

Interesting...with all the Istick "no capability to down regulate power" discussion...this one lists "Working voltage: DC3V-6V" and "Working wattage: 3w-50w".

Ok...so I build my RDAs at about 1.5 and use a mechanical...

Where am I going to set this thing when it gets here ?

Did you run across peraspera's chart...post #414?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/601111-eleaf-istick-42.html

I think it's too late. This thing has caught on. Hope the demand doesn't affect pricing too much. It's such a convenient and affordable device for new vapors.

Well...started $49.99...then $39.99...now $31.99.

Basic Economics...when demand goes up...price goes down.

Hi, I 'm a little confused.I have a Nautilus mini tank that I just received.It says to buy 1.8 or 1.6 BVC Nautilus coils for it.Could someone tell me where I could buy these at a good price? Thanks

5 Pack Aspire BVC Nautilus Tank Replacement Atomizer Coils 1 8 Ohm Dual Coil | eBay

 

[billherbst]

I've never used the spinners but they're cheap enough to make me wonder if they actually step down the voltage?

My anecdotal experience with the Twists/Spinners I've had, including the iTaste VV/VW 3.0, is that they do buck down the voltage. I get a definite diminishing of the overall vape impact at 3.3 volts with those batteries. As I turn up the voltage to 3.7 then 4.2, I get a heartier vape with more flavor and vapor production. Depending on the type and resistance of clearo/tank, the vape at 3.3 volts can be pleasant, mild, or anemic, while 4.2 volts and up can be delightful or too much.

On the iStick, I notice no difference with a relatively fully-charged battery between the vape at 3.0 volts and 4.0 volts. Since I assume that the iStick doesn't buck, but simply increases the "off" percentage of its PWM duty cycle, that's not surprising. What is surprising to me is the high end, how juice delivery systems such as the Nautilus or Kayfun can be cranked up as high as 15 watts on the iStick and not taste too hot or burnt. Perhaps Phil Busardo will de-mystify all this for us.

 

[zoiDman]

Vapor Joes linked to this in early September. By the time I decided to buy one (about 3 days) it was OOS. It's continued to be OOS since.

I don't think they Ever Came in. But I could be Wrong.

Interesting...with all the Istick "no capability to down regulate power" discussion...this one lists "Working voltage: DC3V-6V" and "Working wattage: 3w-50w".

Once again, you have to Evaluate each APV on a Case by Case Basis.

Because someone Posts a Chart, does that mean my Provari or my MVP or my iTaste or my Vamo or my Twist/Spinner or my Lavatube doesn't hit well when set to Low Voltage?

 

[Dshobe]

Hi, checking back in to answer Salemgold's question; the red on the fire button was just a reflection. Checking back out.

 

[graybeard]

So I bought the one from my local B&M guy. $30 used. Hell, I stood in his shop using it most of the time anyway and I know him pretty well. (Plus, I think he just wanted me to leave).

Wrapped a Kayfun lite+ at 2.5ohm. There we go. Looks kind of stupid even in nano mode but the whole thing is much more pocketable than an MVP2 and much more comfortable to hold.

Mrs. Kodiak will just have to forego her 3rd new purse this week.

That's my setup as well. I'm really liking it.

 

[Kryp2nite26]

The missing info here is what coil resistance is she using? And I've never used the spinners but they're cheap enough to make me wonder if they actually step down the voltage? If not then they would vape similarly to the iStick and her results would be expected.

Just saying that many of us can notice stepped-down mod filtering. Regardless of me, good for your lady!

She uses 1.4 - 1.5 ohm micro coils. Same as me.

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

Basic Economics...when demand goes up...price goes down.

You're missing the low supply side of this though Generally speaking, if there is a low supply and a high demand, the price will be high.

 

[gerrymi]

A better solution is to introduce step down technology, bucking, to lower end Mods, it's been there for years in twists and vv and mvp etc

Agree with you 1000%!!!

So...do you have a link you could share where I can get a Mod with step down technology...with the size of the Istick...for $31 ????

 

[Zanzabar78]

Agree with you 1000%!!!

So...do you have a link you could share where I can get a Mod with step down technology...with the size of the Istick...for $31 ????

I wish, maybe itaste vv v4 or istick v2 [emoji2]

 

[Katya]

The Key would be for the Voltage to be Fixed and not Mathematically Averaged or Normalized.

I know the 9 volts for 1/3 of a Second and the 0 volts for 2/3 of a Second is an Unrealistic Analogy. But the Math does yield a 3 volt Average Voltage over 1 Second.

Trouble is Numeric Averages and the Type of Hit a person Receives can be 2 Different things.

OK.... I get that. I think.

So how is iLeaf different from all those other vv and vv/vw devices I'm familiar with (eGo Twist, Spinner, MVP2, Provari, Sigelei Zmax)??? It's been my understanding that when I select a certain voltage or wattage on those devices, that's the voltage/wattage I get from the beginning to the end, not matter what the battery's remaining voltage is. Am I wrong?

Sorry I'm so dense.

 

[Zanzabar78]

OK.... I get that. I think.

So how is iLeaf different from all those other vv and vv/vw devices I'm familiar with (eGo Twist, Spinner, MVP2, Provari, Sigelei Zmax)??? It's been my understanding that when I select a certain voltage or wattage on those devices, that's the voltage/wattage I get from the beginning to the end, not matter what the battery's remaining voltage is. Am I wrong?

Sorry I'm so dense.

With this one out doesn't seem to go below 4v

 

[Katya]

With this one out doesn't seem to go below 4v

Hmm... even though the manufacturer claims that both the voltage and wattage are adjustable (from 3v and 2 watts up, respectively)?

What's the point of having a 3v setting on the menu when it's not achievable?

 

[spartanstew]

Read through the thread Katya.

 

[Katya]

Read through the thread Katya.

I did. I promise. I even remember a post saying that they are lying.

But I still don't understand why they would do that. If a battery comes off the charger at 4.2v, it may be hours till it gets down to 3v. Or it may even never reach 3 volts--it probably shuts off before it gets so low. So why would they claim that the voltage is adjustable from 3 volts up? It makes no sense to me.

 

[zoiDman]

OK.... I get that. I think.

So how is iLeaf different from all those other vv and vv/vw devices I'm familiar with (eGo Twist, Spinner, MVP2, Provari, Sigelei Zmax)??? It's been my understanding that when I select a certain voltage or wattage on those devices, that's the voltage/wattage I get from the beginning to the end, not matter what the battery's remaining voltage is. Am I wrong?

Sorry I'm so dense.

This is Yet to be Shown. Because I haven't seen Anyone scope it and show what the Output is. I think when Phil does his review, that all the Guessing and Supposing will End.

You not Dense. Far From it. But where I think the Confusion comes from what is how something like 3.0 Volts is Defined.

To Most people, when they see the Screen display 3.0 Volts (or Any Voltage), they think that the APV is outputting Constant 3.0 Volts. But that isn't how Some APV output Voltage.

They Output Voltage by Outputting a Higher Voltage for a Very Short Period of Time, then they Output No Voltage for a Very Sort Period of Time. When you "Average" this On/Off you get the Displayed Voltage.

How Well they do this depends on a Lot of Factors. But a Big One is what is the Difference between the High Voltage and the Desired Voltage.

I'm just Guessing and Supposing so don't take this as Fact. But it Wouldn't surprise me if the iStick is Always sending 5.5 Volts (the Max iStick voltage) to the 510 Connector. When the Display is Set to 5.5 volts, it sends a constant 5.5 volts. But as you iStick is set to Lower and Lower Voltages, it just starts doing On/Off. 5.5 Volts On and then a Period of No Voltage.

The Part you mentioned about the Hit Remaining the Same No Matter what the Battery Voltage is should be Correct.

Now Whether or Not the Hit at 3.0V on the iStick is the Hit you are Expecting, or if it is the Same as the Hit you receive on Another APV, that is what is in Question by people here.

 

[Katya]

My anecdotal experience with the Twists/Spinners I've had, including the iTaste VV/VW 3.0, is that they do buck down the voltage. I get a definite diminishing of the overall vape impact at 3.3 volts with those batteries. As I turn up the voltage to 3.7 then 4.2, I get a heartier vape with more flavor and vapor production. Depending on the type and resistance of clearo/tank, the vape at 3.3 volts can be pleasant, mild, or anemic, while 4.2 volts and up can be delightful or too much.

I agree. I've had similar suspicions wrt to eGo-class vv/vw batteries. OTOH, I never had this problem with my higher-end devices (MVP2, Sigelei Zmax, ProVari); those seem to hold their selected voltage just fine.

Again, anecdotal.

 

[zoiDman]

I did. I promise. I even remember a post saying that they are lying.

But I still don't understand why they would do that. If a battery comes off the charger at 4.2v, it may be hours till it gets down to 3v. Or it may even never reach 3 volts--it probably shuts off before it gets so low. So why would they claim that the voltage is adjustable from 3 volts up? It makes no sense to me.

If I want to make Toast. And it takes 3 Minutes when my Toaster is set on Low. Could I make toast by setting the Toaster to High, and then Turning the Toaster On for 10 seconds and then Off for 20 Seconds for 3 Minutes?

It would be a PITA. But can you see how it could work?

 

[Katya]

This is Yet to be Shown. Because I haven't seen Anyone scope it and show what the Output is. I think when Phil does his review, that all the Guessing and Supposing will End. (snip)

Thanks, zoiDman...

 

[zoiDman]

Thanks, zoiDman...

Hey No Problem Katya.

I think when Phil does his Review that things will be Clearer.

He does a Better Job of Explaining things Sometimes than I do. And he will have Charts and Graphs and 8-x-10 Photos with Circles and Arrows and a Description on the Back.