I think you should send it back. It's a common problem. I think most waited so long and loved everything else about it that they just dealt with it. If it's flawed you should get it exchanged for a good unit.
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I just packed it up and put it in the mailbox. I'm disappointed for sure. I loved everything else about it, but I can't deal with having to have the atty not making contact. I'd try an adapter, but I want the tank to sit flush, and IME, once the 510 connection starts to go, it eventually stops working altogether.
I've had 2 Isticks for a month and I change tanks several times a day. Using tanks with and without spring loaded pins and ego thread tanks with the included adapter, and so far no error messages and the threads still feel like the day I got them. Aside from being gentle when threading on/off a tank, I think what may be helping my threads is I put a drop of non-conductive lube on the threads which makes them buttery smooth and easy to feel the top initial thread when screwing a tank.
Perhaps I've just been lucky; time will tell...
Perhaps I've just been lucky; time will tell...
About the 510 threads.
I do not recommend the iStick without an adapter if you are changing tanks a lot. Either to switch flavors, tank styles or to refill. The threads are just sub par. I think they are rather rough and somewhat abrasive. So the top few threads wear, and I think it's also causing wear on the male portion of some tanks. I think there is just so many times you can screw/unscrew something from the iStick threads before they wear too thin to catch.
I'm using the adapter for my 510s (as I've said before, it keeps my finger away from the air port on a naughty). I'll use the adapter as the sacrifice.
Having said that, I am not a fan of the 510 connection in general. The diameter is just too small to support these large heavy toppers. And I realize it's way late in the game, as it is the connection majority. But I don't like it. I only have 3 female 510s; the istick, the adapter, and a ego twist. On the three, I get a lot of side to side play until the device bottoms out, due to the small diameter.
I'll have to look back in this thread for the dis-assembly of the istick. I'm thinking the top can be removed, unsoldered, and a replacement top soldered to the leads and put on. I'll ask my buddy with his machine shop if he could either helicoil or thread insert the top when my stick finally goes. But it's working just great for me now.
I do not recommend the iStick without an adapter if you are changing tanks a lot. Either to switch flavors, tank styles or to refill. The threads are just sub par. I think they are rather rough and somewhat abrasive. So the top few threads wear, and I think it's also causing wear on the male portion of some tanks. I think there is just so many times you can screw/unscrew something from the iStick threads before they wear too thin to catch.
I'm using the adapter for my 510s (as I've said before, it keeps my finger away from the air port on a naughty). I'll use the adapter as the sacrifice.
Having said that, I am not a fan of the 510 connection in general. The diameter is just too small to support these large heavy toppers. And I realize it's way late in the game, as it is the connection majority. But I don't like it. I only have 3 female 510s; the istick, the adapter, and a ego twist. On the three, I get a lot of side to side play until the device bottoms out, due to the small diameter.
I'll have to look back in this thread for the dis-assembly of the istick. I'm thinking the top can be removed, unsoldered, and a replacement top soldered to the leads and put on. I'll ask my buddy with his machine shop if he could either helicoil or thread insert the top when my stick finally goes. But it's working just great for me now.
Okay, so I'm not the only one
I'm still enjoying the iStick. As with any brand new to market product, longevity and durability are unknown factors.
Just remember, the MVP V1 wasn't that great, either. The MVP didn't earn it's reputation that it's renowned for until the bump to version 1.5.
I'm still enjoying the iStick. As with any brand new to market product, longevity and durability are unknown factors.
Just remember, the MVP V1 wasn't that great, either. The MVP didn't earn it's reputation that it's renowned for until the bump to version 1.5.
Yah, ya know, I've been vaping for 3+ years. I know to be gentle with threads and such. I know not to over tighten and all that. I never kept it in my pocket or dropped it with the tank on. I don't know. I guess I was unlucky.
Sorry if this is already posted. I subscribe to his channel and trust his experience. He has been using adaptors so this is very significant to me. The savings on the eleaf does not equal the loss of my tanks. Thank goodness I saw this before buying the two I was going to. I sure hope they fix this cause I'll still be interested then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwO_RGewlfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwO_RGewlfY
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Thanks for the info and pics. I have had some issues with high ego treads blocking the tiny air holes on some of my kanger clearos where I've had to ream the air holes larger just to get them to work. Not a big deal though.
I think it's apparent that eleaf realized that they didn't tap the 510 threads properly. A properly tapped hole should have 70 to 75 percent thread. The istick 510 threads are much less (probably 50 to 60 percent) and is apparent when noting the wobble as you screw in your atty. To compensate for this error they designed an adapter with a knurled ring so you can hold it while unscrewing the atty, thus protecting the under-cut 510 threads from stripping.
Also, as in all mass manufacturing processes, drills and taps start to wear and wobble as time goes on. If you're lucky and get an istick early in the run, the threads won't be as a bad as one made towards the end of the run, or before re-tooling the taps and drills.
Thread Percentage is 1 Factor in how Well a thread works. But it is Not the Only, or the Deciding Factor.
The Thread Height on my iStick is Actually .009" Greater than on my Provari. But my Provari Connector makes a Better Connection.
A 3B Thread, of the Same Thread Height Percentage, is going to be Much Better than a 1B Thread.
Even though my threads are perfectly fine so far, I decided to use an adapter to be on the safe side. The 510 to 510 looked stupid, so I tried my old airflow controllers that I used to use on my ProTanks. It looks much better since you can adjust the top of the afc up to be flush with the topper. Even though it makes it a little taller, there's less overhang with larger tanks.
The thing that surprised me was that when I was looking for a picture of the airflow controller I saw one with the top section off. Inside there are useable eGo threads. It looks a little strange with an eVod attached, but it works in a pinch.
The thing that surprised me was that when I was looking for a picture of the airflow controller I saw one with the top section off. Inside there are useable eGo threads. It looks a little strange with an eVod attached, but it works in a pinch.
I think that's why the foldable adapter will be popular if it isn't too expensive and if it actually works.
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I doubt that eleaf is an ISO 9000 certified company
You might be Surprised.
But even if they are, ISO Standards doesn't stop someone from cutting a 1B Thread. Or an "Un-Classed" Thread for that matter.
BTW - I'm having No Problems with the Threads on either of my iSticks.
Neither am I, But , several folks are, which tells me eleafs quality control sucks!
Even though my threads are perfectly fine so far, I decided to use an adapter to be on the safe side. The 510 to 510 looked stupid, so I tried my old airflow controllers that I used to use on my ProTanks. It looks much better since you can adjust the top of the afc up to be flush with the topper. Even though it makes it a little taller, there's less overhang with larger tanks.
The thing that surprised me was that when I was looking for a picture of the airflow controller I saw one with the top section off. Inside there are useable eGo threads. It looks a little strange with an eVod attached, but it works in a pinch.
GMTA, thayamax!
I Wonder out of All the iStick's that have been sold, how many people are having Problems with the 510 Threading?
Most people Don't Post when there are Problems. But Everyone Posts when there is a Problem.
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