Eleaf Istick

[Katya]

You cannot begin to know how funny I think this is........You should know I'm gonna say get both; I did.

Not that funny, really. I want both. I'm just kinda waiting to see what other mods will be available with the Evolv's dna 40 board. I liked that Opus that Brandon was using in Phil's video. And who knows, maybe the MVP 3 will actually materialize... Kanger and Aspire are already selling disposable nickel coils.

Decisions, decisions.

Have you ordered your Shark yet?

 

[ScandaLeX]

Not that funny, really. I want both. I'm just kinda waiting to see what other mods will be available with the Evolv's DNA 40 board. I liked that Opus that Brandon was using in Phil's video. And who knows, maybe the MVP 3 will actually materialize... Kanger and Aspire are already selling disposable nickel coils.

Decisions, decisions.

Have you ordered your Shark yet?

Yuuuuup!!!! Cyber Monday baby!!!!!!
Though after ordering VS changed their lead time from 15 to 30 days but for the price I figure I can live with that.

 

[Night Hawk]

Not that funny, really. I want both. I'm just kinda waiting to see what other mods will be available with the Evolv's DNA 40 board. I liked that Opus that Brandon was using in Phil's video. And who knows, maybe the MVP 3 will actually materialize... Kanger and Aspire are already selling disposable nickel coils.

Decisions, decisions.

Have you ordered your Shark yet?

The MVP 3.0 20watter is already in pre-order status. One place list available on 1/10/15. iTaste MVP20W (MVP 3.0/20 Watt Mod) by Innokin (Pre-Sale) - VAPES

That's a bit pricey there however at $75 while VaporTek is showing only $39 for the pre-order price. Innokin MVP 3.0 20 Watt - Vapor Tek USA

The drawback compared to the Beyang 30w mod coming out as well? The Beyand is a 2200mah battery like the iStick but fires as low as 0.3ohm according to the YouTube clip seen on it so far. the MVP 3.0 has the 1ohm minimum but can adjust the voltage independently without moving the wattage at the same time or vice versa. That means being able to bring the watts upto 12w while keeping the voltage down at 3.8-.42v The best place to keep tabs on that however is thread seen at http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...1563-new-info-upcoming-innokin-mvp-3-0-a.html

 

[MasterofNone]

You know watts and volts change together regardless, right? Their expressions of a mathematical formula. Given the same ohm coil the voltGe will increase with a wattGe increase, and vice versa

 

[Katya]

The MVP 3.0 20watter is already in pre-order status. One place list available on 1/10/15. iTaste MVP20W (MVP 3.0/20 Watt Mod) by Innokin (Pre-Sale) - VAPES

That's a bit pricey there however at $75 while VaporTek is showing only $39 for the pre-order price. Innokin MVP 3.0 20 Watt - Vapor Tek USA

Alas, that's not the MVP 3--no matter what the vedors call it. I got that information from an Innokin rep. The MVP 20 is just a little something they put together hastily to put on the pre-Christmas market. It's a much better battery than iStick, but it's not as cute. The iStick must have hurt their bottom line.

The true MVP3 (two editions) with Evolv's chipset has clearly been delayed--nobody knows why and what it's going to look like in its final version.

The drawback compared to the Beyang 30w mod coming out as well? The Beyand is a 2200mah battery like the iStick but fires as low as 0.3ohm according to the YouTube clip seen on it so far. the MVP 3.0 has the 1ohm minimum but can adjust the voltage independently without moving the wattage at the same time or vice versa. That means being able to bring the watts upto 12w while keeping the voltage down at 3.8-.42v The best place to keep tabs on that however is thread seen at http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...1563-new-info-upcoming-innokin-mvp-3-0-a.html

For some reason that Beyang doesn't interest me... My next battery will be a good, solid DNA 40. That much I know for sure.

The Ohm's law can't be defied, Hawk... You change the voltage, the wattage changes with it--depending on the resistance and amp limit...

Oh, there no info in that thread--just wild speculations. Been there.

 

[ScandaLeX]

Awwwwww snap!!! Beyang has a flashlight.........sign me up!

 

[Night Hawk]

Alas, that's not the MVP 3--no matter what the vedors call it. I got that information from an Innokin rep. The MVP 20 is just a little something they put together hastily to put on the pre-Christmas market. It's a much better battery than iStick, but it's not as cute. The iStick must have hurt their bottom line.

The true MVP3 (two editions) with Evolv's chipset has clearly been delayed--nobody knows why and what it's going to look like in its final version.



For some reason that Beyang doesn't interest me... My next battery will be a good, solid DNA 40. That much I know for sure.

The Ohm's law can't be defied, Hawk... You change the voltage, the wattage changes with it--depending on the resistance and amp limit...

Oh, there no info in that thread--just wild speculations. Been there.

I'm aware of that being an Electronic Test Tech for a number of years. But as far as the settings are concerned when going back and forth between wattage and voltage modes you find yourself back where you left one setting like still set for 3.9v in the voltage mode after switching to the wattage mod and going up and down there without effect on the other setting. If you have a tank that is 2ohms at 12w you would be looking at roughly 4.9v on a tank that maxes between 4.2-4.4v.

One example is keeping the Vamo or other APV like the VTR set at 3.8v I can run at 10-12w max on the Smok Tumbler with the 2ohm coil in use while not constantly maintained either since that will cook the single coils used on those. Yet if I run the same tank on an eGo vv/vw type battery I can vape all day at 10w with a particular flavor. How do you figure unless the eGo battery is seeing a smaller current value. The max on those is usually about 2.5amps compared to the 10A on a high drain 18650 used in the VTR.

This is why I had to find out just what the H is going on in actual terms by ordeirng the Eleaf Ohm and Power meter to get the reading independently not by just the lcd display on battery or mod. Those generally provide just the basic info not the actual under load you are seeing.Smoktech has a new ohm/power meter gadget out now as well. SMOK OmniTester

I noticed that while there but was also looking at the Innokin product page as well as checking around for any pre[order pages and naturally running into all the wholesale sites! I would say whatever does actually come out from Innokin will prove itself as being a bit more durable since I've had the 2.0 now for over a year without one glitch! The same has been seen for the four VV v3.0 700mah batteries while I still prefer more mAh power especially for the larger tanks!

Hey ScandalLeX I won't needing that one since I have another 30watter due in soon also seeing a flashlight as well. http://www.fasttech.com/products/3032/10007702/1905600

That one is 18650 powered however which I still tend to prefer while the iStick other then the flimsy locking method on the Bending Adapter as it turns out has been a great little brother mod!

 

[aldenf]

I'm aware of that being an Electronic Test Tech for a number of years. But as far as the settings are concerned when going back and forth between wattage and voltage modes you find yourself back where you left one setting like still set for 3.9v in the voltage mode after switching to the wattage mod and going up and down there without effect on the other setting. If you have a tank that is 2ohms at 12w you would be looking at roughly 4.9v on a tank that maxes between 4.2-4.4v.

One example is keeping the Vamo or other APV like the VTR set at 3.8v I can run at 10-12w max on the Smok Tumbler with the 2ohm coil in use while not constantly maintained either since that will cook the single coils used on those. Yet if I run the same tank on an eGo vv/vw type battery I can vape all day at 10w with a particular flavor. How do you figure unless the eGo battery is seeing a smaller current value. The max on those is usually about 2.5amps compared to the 10A on a high drain 18650 used in the VTR.

This is why I had to find out just what the H is going on in actual terms by ordeirng the Eleaf Ohm and Power meter to get the reading independently not by just the lcd display on battery or mod. Those generally provide just the basic info not the actual under load you are seeing.Smoktech has a new ohm/power meter gadget out now as well. SMOK OmniTester

I noticed that while there but was also looking at the Innokin product page as well as checking around for any pre[order pages and naturally running into all the wholesale sites! I would say whatever does actually come out from Innokin will prove itself as being a bit more durable since I've had the 2.0 now for over a year without one glitch! The same has been seen for the four VV v3.0 700mah batteries while I still prefer more mAh power especially for the larger tanks!

Hey ScandalLeX I won't needing that one since I have another 30watter due in soon also seeing a flashlight as well. $52.93 E-LVT 2.0 7-30W Variable Wattage APV Mod - brown / power bank / LED flashlight at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

That one is 18650 powered however which I still tend to prefer while the iStick other then the flimsy locking method on the Bending Adapter as it turns out has been a great little brother mod!

You may find yourself disappointed with both of those testers. It's my understanding they won't read a PWM signal. If they actually can, it will be in mean/avg not RMS... I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Night Hawk]

Well considering none of these of testers are commercial grade I suppose getting within plus or minus 2% accuracy is considered good. If I was looking for the Fluke meter I have here I got back in the 90s the equivalent for that $80 meter at the time now would likely run closer to $200 and even that is likely not closer then half of one 1% in all ranges.

While these are all mass produced and never 100% consistent they generally accurate enough for the average vaper who isn't going to be that tech savy to begin with. Just so we don't go too far over people's heads on the thread here some basic information would be a help. What are the peak and RMS values of the voltage of a pulse-width-modulated signal

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

I saw earlier in this thread that someone had dismantled the iStick but has anyone replaced the battery in one yet?

It looked like you may be able to do that. Any info on that?

 

[eUsername]

Well considering none of these of testers are commercial grade I suppose getting within plus or minus 2% accuracy is considered good. If I was looking for the Fluke meter I have here I got back in the 90s the equivalent for that $80 meter at the time now would likely run closer to $200 and even that is likely not closer then half of one 1% in all ranges.

While these are all mass produced and never 100% consistent they generally accurate enough for the average vaper who isn't going to be that tech savy to begin with. Just so we don't go too far over people's heads on the thread here some basic information would be a help. What are the peak and RMS values of the voltage of a pulse-width-modulated signal

You're not talking over anyone’s head in here. The fact that the subject of this post uses mean and not RMS is a long since dead and beaten horse. Your Fluke will not help you find out which it is using.

 

[Jingles]

I finally received my 3rd IStick-ordered Black Friday, from Central Vapors. It came with the ego adaptor and they threw in a free charger for my wait. The box wasn't shrink-wrapped and is flatter than my other ones were. It says Eleaf on it and manufactured by ISmoka. No authentication on it-not sure if it's a clone or not. I haven't used it yet, so we shall see...

 

[tiburonfirst]

I saw earlier in this thread that someone had dismantled the iStick but has anyone replaced the battery in one yet?

It looked like you may be able to do that. Any info on that?

there were one or two people who managed to get an 18650 in there, i believe

 

[aldenf]

Well considering none of these of testers are commercial grade I suppose getting within plus or minus 2% accuracy is considered good. If I was looking for the Fluke meter I have here I got back in the 90s the equivalent for that $80 meter at the time now would likely run closer to $200 and even that is likely not closer then half of one 1% in all ranges.

While these are all mass produced and never 100% consistent they generally accurate enough for the average vaper who isn't going to be that tech savy to begin with. Just so we don't go too far over people's heads on the thread here some basic information would be a help. What are the peak and RMS values of the voltage of a pulse-width-modulated signal

You misunderstand me. Many of the inline voltage testers will not even display a reading with a PWM signal. Your Fluke WILL read the signal but measure and display in mean/avg volts. Fluke does make a meter capable of discerning and measuring a PWM signal in RMS but costs 8x as much as an oscilloscope...

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

there were one or two people who managed to get an 18650 in there, i believe

No good stuff on it such as picts and such?
I poked around a bit but didn't find anything.

 

[tiburonfirst]

No good stuff on it such as picts and such?
I poked around a bit but didn't find anything.

maybe use the search function to find those tutorials mentioned below?

I have changed the battery in one already. It was easy....There are tutorials in this thread on how to take it apart. I used a regular 18650 battery. The first and most important thing is that you have to gently pry up the black OLED see-through plastic to remove the buttons..double sided tape holds it on. Be careful you're not to trying to pull up the plastic layered under it,..... Then the buttons pull right out. The rest is just unscrewing the caps then everything slides right out.

 

[aldenf]

No good stuff on it such as picts and such?
I poked around a bit but didn't find anything.

Here ya go...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...op-cap-spring-loaded-510-3200mah-battery.html

 

[USMCotaku]

I turned my istick into my mini dripper (mipper? )
32 gauge triple twisted wire, on a sleeper coil build (2 coils on one line so only one line goes through the positive post, more uniform heat up)

13 wraps each coil, for 1.2 ohm

Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[gandymarsh]

I found this It doesn't show battery replacement but it does show how to get everything out. Skip to about 16 minutes in to see the disassembly part.

 

[Night Hawk]

You misunderstand me. Many of the inline voltage testers will not even display a reading with a PWM signal. Your Fluke WILL read the signal but measure and display in mean/avg volts. Fluke does make a meter capable of discerning and measuring a PWM signal in RMS but costs 8x as much as an oscilloscope...

Fluke puts out portable scopes as well as a number of other things. Fluke ScopeMeter Handheld Portable Digital Oscilloscopes And of course you could buy plenty of vaping gear with the prices for one of htose!