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This is what I know:

http://srs.unm.edu/industrial-hygiene/media/docs/silica.pdf


And since we don't even know what kind of fiberglass/ceramic paper they are using...

Again, it's just me.

I know that others disagree. I'll stay with amorphous silica wicks and Japanese organic cotton--at least for now.

Katya, You may be on to more than we actually realize. There must be a reason Kanger switched from the DPBC (Bottom Plane Dual Coil) in the SubTank, presumably wicked with silica to the OCC [Organic Cotton (single) Coil]. Maybe Kanger knows something we don't yet? I stopped vaping on silica my thrid week of vaping, when I found I could rebuild the Kanger heads with organic cotton. Now I use rayon. I'm fine with a solid ceramic cup. But it is simply my choice to stay away from any fibrous ceramic or silica (glass) materials. To each her/his own.
 
Does anyone even know if inhaling the heat generated from thin kanthal, nickel, stainless steel, nichrome, or titanium has long term health effects yet? Some metals are known to cause respiratory damage when their fumes are inhaled.


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I doubt that there is any cadmium or lead to be found with any reputable vaping gear and while some people may develop allergies to PG or some flavorings. The quality of the eliquids selected as well as the varying hardware combinations that can be seen suggest a leading role in how things vape overall. After 35+yrs. of smoking and all that tar I doubt I worry too much about any domestic brands even while some flavors don't seem to make it. Yet some losers suddenly make a turn around once you get into better hardwares.

I don't. I do feel that this is infinitely more helpful than smoking, however.

I've been doing this for a while (and some of the kit I have used has been, for want of a better word, abominable.

That's putting it mildly! :laugh: I could name off a list of choice words for some of that early stuff I ran into like a disposable or one gimic brand that is advertised on the social networks and now a constant thorn in the side in your email inbox for free trial spam! They turn around once you become a member and overcharge for useless..... #($*$#!!! That's how that goes!

After some now 27 months of vaping I'm finally getting into the "Good Stuff" as far as the hardware set ups without even sub ohming with the iSticks being a great help when on the go for the quick vape rather stuffing a VV/VW type eGo battery in a pocket as well as offering that extra kick when needed!
 

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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9gwx_gdZWQ8

Some one earlier stated we don't know the risks......
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

The Drexel study was completed in the summer of 2013. It tested cigalikes. Please note that even Dr. Ross in the video uses a cigalike. But vaping is evolving very quickly. Vapers want more power, more vapor, more wattage, more flavor. China is making 260 watt mods and people are buying them. I saw a 400 watt mod recently, it's called a "competition mod."

As vaping becomes more sophisticated and more efficient, new technologies and materials are being introduced daily--and each brings a new potential risk. This is not to say that each new introduction is dangerous--just that it may be and we have to be cautious.

I started vaping in 2009. All we had were little pathetic cigalikes, outfitted with atomizers or cartomizers, and eliquids from Chinese factories. The highest wattage we could produce was maybe 4-5 watts, on a freshly charged battery with a 3Ω carto. If I managed to vape 2 ml per day I felt lucky. :facepalm: Now we're vaping at 20, 30 and 70 watts, going through 10, 15 or more ml per day. Our hardware is fantastic and efficient. Our coils are hot and vaporize our juices in an instant. But the better the gear, the more we vape, and the better our juices are absorbed, the higher the dangers...

Dr. Farsalinos recognized that and is looking into it. The industry is also recognizing it--Evolv introduced DNA 40 with temperature regulation. ProVari still won't make a mod that goes higher than 20 watts; I have great respect for those companies. I also trust the oldest Chinese manufacturers of electronic cigarettes, like Joyetech and Kangertech; I've been using their products for 5 years.

However, I have less faith in the other, new Chinese companies that have recently appeared on the market and sell this kind of stuff (you don't have to watch the whole thing--just go to 1:30 min and see what happens at 2 min):

 

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The iStick suffers from a number of inherent flaws:


  • [*=1]the lack of step-down below battery voltage
    [*=1]the unfortunate choice of PWM calibration in mean rather than RMS voltage
    [*=1]the 510 connector, which has two problems---the soft metal that makes the threads vulnerable to permanent damage through cross-threading, and the use of a fixed positive pin that is neither spring-loaded nor otherwise adjustable.
Some criticisms, such as placement of the 510 connector near the edge of the top plate, putting the micro-usb jack for recharging on the bottom rather than on the side, and the fixed internal battery rather than a user-replaceable 18650 IMR, do not seem to me to qualify as flaws, per se. Certain users may object to these and other features, but they were reasonable design choices to keep production costs and physical size to a minimum. Occasional non-firing on the first button press doesn't seem widespread, and longer battery life is more a wish than a criticism, since 2200mAh is actually quite good for a PV of this size and price.

In addition, we have reports from numerous disappointed users of malfunctions that have resulted in total failure of their iSticks. As a result, some of these users have soured on the iStick as a product and would not purchase another, which is understandable.

The reasons I like the iStick are simple---performance, size/ergonomics, and cost. All five of mine are in service and perform flawlessly so far for a modest cost---I paid an average of $24 each. The diminutive size of the iStick is perfect for me, and design of the box---with no sharp edges and one side rounded---makes holding it in my hand very comfortable. My pinkie naturally supports the bottom, and my thumb is perfectly aligned with the firing button. In other words, for me the iStick is a joy to use.

I use mainly Aspire BVC tanks---Mini Naut, CE5S, and K1, but also GS-H5T tanks with adjustable air flow and Kanger dual-coil heads (which I rebuild with single vertical coils). I've even succeeded at getting EVOD-style clearos to work, as long as I rebuild the heads at 2 ohms. Yes, I'm careful when threading tanks onto the 510 connectors, but only my oldest iStick got a little wonky, and that was solved with an adapter (either the eGo-to-510 or the 510 Tank Controller, depending on what topper I'm using that week). I don't feel a need to go above 9 eLeaf watts with anything and get a great vape.

That said, I have pre-ordered the Cloupor Mini 30W for $29.99. After all, the race for a better iStick has just begun...
 
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However, I have less faith in the other, new Chinese companies that have recently appeared on the market and sell this kind of stuff (you don't have to watch the whole thing--just go to 1:30 min and see what happens at 2 min):



I haven't laughed so hard in quite a while.

Is this guy for real or is this a spoof? Seems more like the latter to me. :D

How do you get 260W out of 6-8V?
 

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Bwahahaha idiot...you gotta make sure the wick is saturated!
I accidentally did that with my istick trying to prime a new coil but obviously not to that magnitude!


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The Drexel study was completed in the summer of 2013. It tested cigalikes. Please note that even Dr. Ross in the video uses a cigalike. But vaping is evolving very quickly. Vapers want more power, more vapor, more wattage, more flavor. China is making 260 watt mods and people are buying them. I saw a 400 watt mod recently, it's called a "competition mod."

As vaping becomes more sophisticated and more efficient, new technologies and materials are being introduced daily--and each brings a new potential risk. This is not to say that each new introduction is dangerous--just that it may be and we have to be cautious.

I started vaping in 2009. All we had were little pathetic cigalikes, outfitted with atomizers or cartomizers, and eliquids from Chinese factories. The highest wattage we could produce was maybe 4-5 watts, on a freshly charged battery with a 3Ω carto. If I managed to vape 2 ml per day I felt lucky. :facepalm: Now we're vaping at 20, 30 and 70 watts, going through 10, 15 or more ml per day. Our hardware is fantastic and efficient. Our coils are hot and vaporize our juices in an instant. But the better the gear, the more we vape, and the better our juices are absorbed, the higher the dangers...

Dr. Farsalinos recognized that and is looking into it. The industry is also recognizing it--Evolv introduced DNA 40 with temperature regulation. ProVari still won't make a mod that goes higher than 20 watts; I have great respect for those companies. I also trust the oldest Chinese manufacturers of electronic cigarettes, like Joyetech and Kangertech; I've been using their products for 5 years.

However, I have less faith in the other, new Chinese companies that have recently appeared on the market and sell this kind of stuff (you don't have to watch the whole thing--just go to 1:30 min and see what happens at 2 min):



Hey!

That's just for Professional Vapers!

What ever it could be!

(firemen?.......:facepalm:.....Next incarnation of the Village People would sport a Professional Vaper in flames!.......:laugh:)
 

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The Drexel study was completed in the summer of 2013. It tested cigalikes. Please note that even Dr. Ross in the video uses a cigalike. But vaping is evolving very quickly. Vapers want more power, more vapor, more wattage, more flavor. China is making 260 watt mods and people are buying them. I saw a 400 watt mod recently, it's called a "competition mod."

As vaping becomes more sophisticated and more efficient, new technologies and materials are being introduced daily--and each brings a new potential risk. This is not to say that each new introduction is dangerous--just that it may be and we have to be cautious.

I started vaping in 2009. All we had were little pathetic cigalikes, outfitted with atomizers or cartomizers, and eliquids from Chinese factories. The highest wattage we could produce was maybe 4-5 watts, on a freshly charged battery with a 3Ω carto. If I managed to vape 2 ml per day I felt lucky. :facepalm: Now we're vaping at 20, 30 and 70 watts, going through 10, 15 or more ml per day. Our hardware is fantastic and efficient. Our coils are hot and vaporize our juices in an instant. But the better the gear, the more we vape, and the better our juices are absorbed, the higher the dangers...

Dr. Farsalinos recognized that and is looking into it. The industry is also recognizing it--Evolv introduced DNA 40 with temperature regulation. ProVari still won't make a mod that goes higher than 20 watts; I have great respect for those companies. I also trust the oldest Chinese manufacturers of electronic cigarettes, like Joyetech and Kangertech; I've been using their products for 5 years.

However, I have less faith in the other, new Chinese companies that have recently appeared on the market and sell this kind of stuff (you don't have to watch the whole thing--just go to 1:30 min and see what happens at 2 min):





The studies that showed "dangerous chemicals" being released were done at temperatures no sane person would attempt to vape at....not reachable by any mod I have :p. I have a gut feeling that even higher wattage vapers will find they are Ok as long as they use gear with good airflow and proper wicking. I can definitely see how dry hits could release some toxins, specially with a synthetic wick material.... At that point you are getting some smoke instead of vapor, but I seriously doubt that our juices will break down into dangerous compounds at any vapeable temperatures
 
Jeez. Get involved with real life for a few days and return to find 50+ pages more in this thread. Took me a spell to catch up!

I gotta get with it...:)

If I'm away for just a few hours and come in there are about 50 new posts to look over! :laugh: Busy, busy. busy as bees thread!

The iStick suffers from a number of inherent flaws:


  • [*=1]the lack of step-down below battery voltage
    [*=1]the unfortunate choice of PWM calibration in mean rather than RMS voltage
    [*=1]the 510 connector, which has two problems---the soft metal that makes the threads vulnerable to permanent damage through cross-threading, and the use of a fixed positive pin that is neither spring-loaded nor otherwise adjustable.
Some criticisms, such as placement of the 510 connector near the edge of the top plate, putting the micro-usb jack for recharging on the bottom rather than on the side, and the fixed internal battery rather than a user-replaceable 18650 IMR, do not seem to me to qualify as flaws, per se. Certain users may object to these and other features, but they were reasonable design choices to keep production costs and physical size to a minimum. Occasional non-firing on the first button press doesn't seem widespread, and longer battery life is more a wish than a criticism, since 2200mAh is actually quite good for a PV of this size and price.

In addition, we have reports from numerous disappointed users of malfunctions that have resulted in total failure of their iSticks. As a result, some of these users have soured on the iStick as a product and would not purchase another, which is understandable.

The reasons I like the iStick are simple---performance, size/ergonomics, and cost. All five of mine are in service and perform flawlessly so far for a modest cost---I paid an average of $24 each. The diminutive size of the iStick is perfect for me, and design of the box---with no sharp edges and one side rounded---makes holding it in my hand very comfortable. My pinkie naturally supports the bottom, and my thumb is perfectly aligned with the firing button. In other words, for me the iStick is a joy to use.

I use mainly Aspire BVC tanks---Mini Naut, CE5S, and K1, but also GS-H5T tanks with adjustable air flow and Kanger dual-coil heads (which I rebuild with single vertical coils). I've even succeeded at getting EVOD-style clearos to work, as long as I rebuild the heads at 2 ohms. Yes, I'm careful when threading tanks onto the 510 connectors, but only my oldest iStick got a little wonky, and that was solved with an adapter (either the eGo-to-510 or the 510 Tank Controller, depending on what topper I'm using that week). I don't feel a need to go above 9 eLeaf watts with anything and get a great vape.

That said, I have pre-ordered the Cloupor Mini 30W for $29.99. After all, the race for a better iStick has just begun...

I was looking at the Cloupor Mini here as well but had also waiting to find out when the Beyang 30w was coming and then something with a little more interest at about the same price I paid for the Cloupor DovPo E-LVT 30w already due in some time namely the ICig V9 50w with multiple color led light that Fasttech now has in stock. $52.63 ICig V9 50w E-Cigarette Mod Variable Wattage | Vaping Discounts

Exactly the same here. No adapters and no problems with my 2 iSticks.

I haven't had a whimper of trouble with either iStick since they were bought including the use of the 510 threads. I don't force tanks on to begin with but started using the 510/eGo adapter right off since I used the Tumblers first before grabbing a pair of Nautilus Mini tanks plus waiting for the second stainless replacement tank for those to come in. I was surprised that the full size Nautilus SS replacements don't have a view slot in those to show where the level is however.
 

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    :facepalm: he said eleaf itaste :facepalm:


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    The iStick suffers from a number of inherent flaws:


    • [*=1]the lack of step-down below battery voltage
      [*=1]the unfortunate choice of PWM calibration in mean rather than RMS voltage
      [*=1]the 510 connector, which has two problems---the soft metal that makes the threads vulnerable to permanent damage through cross-threading, and the use of a fixed positive pin that is neither spring-loaded nor otherwise adjustable.
    Some criticisms, such as placement of the 510 connector near the edge of the top plate, putting the micro-usb jack for recharging on the bottom rather than on the side, and the fixed internal battery rather than a user-replaceable 18650 IMR, do not seem to me to qualify as flaws, per se. Certain users may object to these and other features, but they were reasonable design choices to keep production costs and physical size to a minimum. Occasional non-firing on the first button press doesn't seem widespread, and longer battery life is more a wish than a criticism, since 2200mAh is actually quite good for a PV of this size and price.

    In addition, we have reports from numerous disappointed users of malfunctions that have resulted in total failure of their iSticks. As a result, some of these users have soured on the iStick as a product and would not purchase another, which is understandable.

    The reasons I like the iStick are simple---performance, size/ergonomics, and cost. All five of mine are in service and perform flawlessly so far for a modest cost---I paid an average of $24 each. The diminutive size of the iStick is perfect for me, and design of the box---with no sharp edges and one side rounded---makes holding it in my hand very comfortable. My pinkie naturally supports the bottom, and my thumb is perfectly aligned with the firing button. In other words, for me the iStick is a joy to use.

    I use mainly Aspire BVC tanks---Mini Naut, CE5S, and K1, but also GS-H5T tanks with adjustable air flow and Kanger dual-coil heads (which I rebuild with single vertical coils). I've even succeeded at getting EVOD-style clearos to work, as long as I rebuild the heads at 2 ohms. Yes, I'm careful when threading tanks onto the 510 connectors, but only my oldest iStick got a little wonky, and that was solved with an adapter (either the eGo-to-510 or the 510 Tank Controller, depending on what topper I'm using that week). I don't feel a need to go above 9 eLeaf watts with anything and get a great vape.

    That said, I have pre-ordered the Cloupor Mini 30W for $29.99. After all, the race for a better iStick has just begun...

    Spot-on, Bill. Please let us know how you like the Cloupor Mini!
     
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