Assuming that you're still talking about the istick after 780 pages, do you think I'll even notice running this thing at 20 watts with my Kayfuns with 1.2 ohm coils?
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No, at higher wattage it starts to level out to be more comparable to what you would get at 20 on other mods (but you will only truly reach 20 watts at 1-1.1 ohm due to its amp limit, the higher your coils ohms go, the lower your actual watt max output will be, but at 1.2 ohm the difference will be minimal)
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If the amp limit is truly 4.5, 20w is attainable from 1-1.6 Ω (with mean regulation). In fact, the iStick is capable of slightly higher than 20w output in that range because of its mean regulation. Just do the math...
There will only be a warranty card included if it was purchased from an "authorized" reseller, which I believe is limited to EleafUSA at the moment. Also know, for those that did get their iStick directly from Eleaf, that using anything but another Eleaf product with the iStick voids the warranty. In other words, we're at the mercy of the reseller...
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See, I've actually seen it on a scope, so I know that 20 watts is only attainable at 1-1.1 ohm, and I also know that over 20 watts isn't attainable. It runs higher then settings at low end, and levels out as you reach the upper end, and with higher then 1.1 ohm, starts to give lower then your settings, depending on what ohms you are at will dictate what wattage it starts to give lower readings.
Oh, do the math and you will find that at 5.5 volts, on a 1.6 ohm coil..... You will get 18.9 watts
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I too put my iSticks on a scope and have screen shots to prove it. Do you know that the peak voltage changes @ 66% of the settings when it loses approximately 1/3 of the battery charge?
The iStick, indeed, maxes at 4.5A. At 1.6Ω, it fires 5.5Vavg or 5.6xVrms, totaling 19.6-19.9W
The maximum wattage of the iStick (in vv mode)is:
1Ω: 26.1W (21.6W @ 2/3 batt charge)
1.1Ω: 25.8W
1.2Ω: 26.1W
1.3Ω: 24.5W
1.4Ω: 22.8W
1.5Ω: 21.3W
1.6Ω: 19.9W
If you have any doubt of this, watch Mr. Busardo's video. My findings agree with his completely. His testing did not catch the lowered peak voltage at reduced battery charge however.
I run my RDAs at 1.2Ω, giving me a range of 14.5-26.1W.
I run my RTAs at 1.5Ω, giving me a range of 11.6-21.3W.
I run my rebuilt BVC clearos at 1.9Ω, giving me a range of 9.2-16.8W.
The above numbers are with the full charge. At approximately 2/3 battery charge, any set voltage below 4.9, provides noticeably lower power dissipation at the coil.
The take away from all this? Most users should run >1.8Ω coils and simply vape by taste/feel. The math/physics will cross our eyes.
Hope this helps!
I would like to see screen shots of the istick producing more then 20 watts.
Watching Busardo's video, he was unable to reach 20 watts and showed the ohms on which you can...1-1.1
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Watching Busardo's video, he was unable to reach 20 watts and showed the ohms on which you can...1-1.1
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Watch his video again...... It clearly can NOT go above 20, and will only reach 20 at no higher then 1.1 ohm
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_W1G7p_fCJw
Start at around 23 minutes in
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_W1G7p_fCJw
Start at around 23 minutes in
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The confusion we are having seems to be the difference between VV & VW modes. Much like the VAMO (v1-v5 anyway), the iStick is not power limited in VV mode. The VAMO has been pushing 30W for several years now. The iStick is only limited by current (amps) in VV mode. Check out his first voltage comparison @ 23:46. When set to 5.5V, the iStick fires at all resistances until it hits the 4.5A current limit. 5.5Vavg is equal to 5.6 and change Vrms.
In VW mode, the iStick's chipset does limit the device to 20 Eleaf Watts. This is only attainable within a very small resistance range. Remember the chipset firmware is using Ohm's law to calculate power output. We also know that Ohm's law does not work accurately when we plug a Vavg value into the equation. The iStick is better understood and utilized in VV mode.
I hate to tell you, but unless you got a defective unit in a fortuitous manner, they are still under amp limits even in voltage mode. In fact, if you put a 1.3 ohm coil on it (what I'm using on my dripper on mine) the max voltage it will do is 5 volts, for 19.2 watts
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So I will repeat, the istick can not exceed 20 watts, regardless of mode, and will only reach 20 @ 1-1.1 ohm.
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This is a limited power end user device.
If the end user is Happy with performance - THAT is all that matters.
If the end user is Happy with performance - THAT is all that matters.
Hi 'Stickers, and Happy Xmas to you all.
I received a rather UNwanted gift this year.... my silver 'Stick will not charge, at all. It's dead in the water. I cannot recall if there was discussion about this, but if you have any tips, please let me know before it is filed safely under "G", for garbage.
Poor thing...... 67 days he lasted...
Also, who has the best deals on them these days?
I received a rather UNwanted gift this year.... my silver 'Stick will not charge, at all. It's dead in the water. I cannot recall if there was discussion about this, but if you have any tips, please let me know before it is filed safely under "G", for garbage.
Poor thing...... 67 days he lasted...
Also, who has the best deals on them these days?
Coming from an "end user" I'm happy with mine. Set @ 17 watts with a 1.2Ω coil in a Kayfun mini...superb.
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Here I only ran the Nautilus 5ml tank on for one day on one of the pair when the Eleaf Ohm and Power arrived and took some notes that while the display showed 20w when turned all the way up guess what? With the factory installed 1.6ohm coil it never actually made the 20ohm mark on the meter! Iwas at 19.4 peak as I recall.
As far as the Vamo series the max until the V6-7-8 models came out suddenly this fall has been 3-15w not no 35w as seen with the V8. It was at this time last year the first 20Ws were coming out. Then soon afterwards you saw the first 30Ws. Through the late spring and early fall the GOD Mod came flying in at 100w followed by both the 40s and 50s as well as the 180, 200, and now 260watters.
Gee I guess it's time to pull out that old Ohm's Law Calculator again!
As far as the Vamo series the max until the V6-7-8 models came out suddenly this fall has been 3-15w not no 35w as seen with the V8. It was at this time last year the first 20Ws were coming out. Then soon afterwards you saw the first 30Ws. Through the late spring and early fall the GOD Mod came flying in at 100w followed by both the 40s and 50s as well as the 180, 200, and now 260watters.
Gee I guess it's time to pull out that old Ohm's Law Calculator again!
Bummer!
Overworked from carrying around all that BLING!!There was a report of one showing the lightening bolt but not charging. The poster never came back so I don't know if he got it resolved, or exchanged... Screenname: Something "gotti".
I had that happen once but I think it was a bad usb cable.
Congratulations! I use both the Iclear30S and the Protank3 on my iSticks. I use the Kanger air flow adapter on the Pro3 and leave that on when re-filling. The iClear 30S is top filling - so no need for an adapter. Unless, if you're a tank swapper (changing tanks several times a day) then you should have an adapter on it.
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