Eleaf Istick

[USMCotaku]

That's interesting, because my 1.5Ω builds in my RTAs fire at a maximum 5.4Vavg on my iSticks, equaling 21W dissipated at the reisistance load (coil).







I respectfully disagree with you...







I couldn't agree more with you, crxess. And here's where I end my part of this conversation before we annoy the begeebus out of the rest of this thread.



~Alden

5.4 volts on a 1.5 ohm coil is 19.44 watts..... I'm done with this. You two can think what you want, even if the guy in the video you so happily refer to says himself, in that very video, exactly what I've been saying. If thinking your mod can output more then it's claimed wattage makes you happier with it somehow, go right ahead.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night

 

[Night Hawk]

Mine peaks at 19.2 watts on a 1.3 ohm coil. The problem with ohms law calculators is people tend to use them to crunch numbers as if they were using a mech, not taking into account that the device may be limited in unexpected ways.....i.e. istick wont run at full voltage across all ohms, so they crunch the numbers and say "see, look what it can do". Yeah, go ahead and show me it doing that, cause mine won't

The one thing that seems to be continually missed is the 20W on the model is the estimated maximum at peak performance and not the constant since there are too many factors involved. You have to remember my mention of using the Eleaf Ohm and Power meter not a scope or the old Fluke multimeter I still have laying around from testing work in years past.

Besides the resistance whatever that is when mentioning having things set the same between various batteries and mods you have to remember that amperage not voltage becomes the important thing at certain points as 3v at 5amps is going to do a lot more then 7v or more at 0.5A or 500mA. In regards to the factory estimated maximum that is always a thing of "Ideal Circumstances" in manufacto expresso terms to the average joe consumer. The same is said about 500gb hard drives that only 465gb of usable space once partitioned and formatted. The marketed figures are simply those rounded off for marketing purposes and rarely convey the actual real world in use.

Any tank can depress the pin or/and strip the threads bare. Sorry...

Over tightening is one other thing to consider! People like to see the tanks down flush without realizing that sometimes in mass production there's a plus or minus tolerance on the physical dimensions and what will pass when machined as exceptable where one portion on one mod won't the exact same on the next one coming off of the production line. Here I actually have a metal nail file I use to chamfer the edges on some APVs were the button(Smok BEC Pro) or where the cap comes off to reveal the eGo threading there's a sharp edge that have been broken to find.(Smok ACEs aluminum body for example).

You can find discrepancies at times like those and have to work with them .If you find there's a small gap simply drop on the 510/eGo adapter and beauty ring to compensate not try to jam the tank on too tight just to force it to sit flush.

5.4 volts on a 1.5 ohm coil is 19.44 watts..... I'm done with this. You two can think what you want, even if the guy in the video you so happily refer to says himself, in that very video, exactly what I've been saying. If thinking your mod can output more then it's claimed wattage makes you happier with it somehow, go right ahead.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night

When the meter was put on once the Nautlius Mini tanks came in saw the 19.4W reading then as opposed to what the display was showing which is the source supply wattage and not the end result as far as how much diminishes in route. Those have the 2.1ohm read on display coils there still having the original pre-installed in use on each tank. If I remember correctly the voltage was about 4..9v on the meter's display when seeing the 19.4w while the math shows 6.229 approx. at 2ohms. At 1.5ohms you end up seeing 5.395v approx. not the tull 5.5v.

 

[igottasrt8]

I hate to disturb the arguments here but would you guys buy another one? There's the Cloupor mini 30 watt and another mini 30 watt I can't think of right now that both take a 18650 battery. I'd jump on one of those if my istick took a dump.

 

[novice123]

Hi I found this today:

Mini iStick

smaller than istick, 10w, 1050 mA
I saw on another site they said it was a flat signal (no PWM).

 

[shack22]

I hate to disturb the arguments here but would you guys buy another one? There's the Cloupor mini 30 watt and another mini 30 watt I can't think of right now that both take a 18650 battery. I'd jump on one of those if my istick took a dump.

I would buy another iStick in a heartbeat--form factor, form factor, form factor.
One caveat- if more start having the charging issue like Katdarling I might have second thoughts-- that charging port is worrisome.

 

[underwhelmd]

I hate to disturb the arguments here but would you guys buy another one? There's the Cloupor mini 30 watt and another mini 30 watt I can't think of right now that both take a 18650 battery. I'd jump on one of those if my istick took a dump.

Nope, there are two here now. That's enough. If they made good changes for the next version, maybe. But the ipv mini and cloupor mini are top of my want list right now.

 

[KTMRider]

I hate to disturb the arguments here but would you guys buy another one? There's the Cloupor mini 30 watt and another mini 30 watt I can't think of right now that both take a 18650 battery. I'd jump on one of those if my istick took a dump.

Definitely not. And I don't think I could recommend it.

It was great for what it was but it's really not meant to last very long. It's not easy to work on and not really meant to be taken apart. It was great for my purposes which was to hold me over until I figured out what I really wanted. It also accelerated the "mini" mod markets and now there's many more choices for a small mod.

 

[igottasrt8]

Definitely not. And I don't think I could recommend it.

It was great for what it was but it's really not meant to last very long. It's not easy to work on and not really meant to be taken apart. It was great for my purposes which was to hold me over until I figured out what I really wanted. It also accelerated the "mini" mod markets and now there's many more choices for a small mod.

^^^^^^that

 

[gandymarsh]

I have 2 so the only way I would buy another is if they were on sale for ~$20. Not that I'm knocking them, I just don't need any more.

I'm waiting for the Cloupor mini to come out and even then I'll wait for the reviews and the ECF members feedback. I really like the replaceable battery and the 30 watt capability.

 

[ScandaLeX]

I hate to disturb the arguments here but would you guys buy another one? There's the Cloupor mini 30 watt and another mini 30 watt I can't think of right now that both take a 18650 battery. I'd jump on one of those if my istick took a dump.

Right now I'd say no I wouldn't buy another one but that may be due in large part to having so many other mods that it's not like the 'Stick is my primary that I have to replace should it cease to function.

Many of my purchases are nothing more than wanting to try it for myself. I'm not one whose ever been able to live vicariously thru others.

 

[four2109]

I hate to disturb the arguments here but would you guys buy another one? There's the Cloupor mini 30 watt and another mini 30 watt I can't think of right now that both take a 18650 battery. I'd jump on one of those if my istick took a dump.

I would probably just buy another one. I don't want anything bigger or heavier. I don't care about wpm, rmv, %#*, pdq, ....
I have 2, no problems so far. I don't go over 10 watts, so what would I do with 30.
I love it for the battery life and form factor. The charging port and ohm reading are valuable to me too. But that's about it.

 

[billherbst]

would you guys buy another one? There's the Cloupor mini 30 watt and another mini 30 watt I can't think of right now that both take a 18650 battery. I'd jump on one of those if my istick took a dump.

I have five iSticks, all performing well, all in service. I bought one early on three months ago, and added another each time I found a great price. My average cost for all five was $24 each shipped. Yes, I am careful with their 510 connectors and micro-USB charging ports, since both those parts are obviously failure-prone. Right now, all mine are outfitted with Aspire devices (Mini Nauts, CE5Ss, or K1s), but I could use Kanger tanks on them if needed, since the jury is still out on the safety of Aspire's wicking materials. So far, I continue to use the BVC coils, because they provide about the best convenience vape around, short of dripping or higher-end RTAs. I rebuild all my Kanger heads with pre-built NR-R-NR coils from FastTech (4-6¢ each, depending on gauge and resistance) and rayon wicks, so I can make them 2.0-2.4 ohms if I want, which seems about right for Kangers on the iStick, with its elevated low-end voltage.

My positive experience aside, I won't buy another iStick, mainly because five is enough (LOL), and also because I'm interested to see if the competition can come up with small, inexpensive 30-watt APVs that effectively address the iStick's weak points. To that end, I've pre-ordered a Cloupor Mini 30 watt for $29.99 shipped, with expected delivery by mid-January. User opinions are all over the map about Cloupor, but for that price I figured tossing the dice wasn't risking much.

 

[Heavyrocker]

I -Stick Best Build.

Single twisted coil 10 watt,Orchid mini,1.1 ohm running at 10 watts.Plugged one air hole with plastic qutip for excellent AF.

Best setting on this is to stick on the tank and hit the wattage go up or down and it will stop at the correct setting.I can bump it up a few watts and still be ok,any higher and i get the ''rattlesnake'''popping with the wick and coil.Hits like a mech.

This little Eleaf I stick is the bomb.

 

[Heavyrocker]

I have spent a few days vaping on my iStick, and no matter what, I still get the intermittent burnt hits. I keep it set as low as I can, and I have tried both voltage and wattage. It's not a wicking issue, as my juices are all 65/35 or 70/30 (pg/vg). It's not a resistance problem either, as I have tried coils that range between 2.0 to 2.9 ohms.

I have never had this problem my Twists, which are set at 3.6V no matter what the coil resistance is, and they hit perfectly every single time. My MVP is set slightly lower at 3.4V, as it does hit harder, but it still doesn't burn my juice outright. Setting the iStick to 3.4V or 3.6V is guaranteed burnt flavor.

It really feels like my iStick is faulty, and that the regulator is damaged. The burnt hits I am talking about aren't just a little burnt either. It literally tastes like the iStick is firing at the full 5.5V or 20W. It's awful!

Have you tried a 1.2 to 1.5 ohm coil?

 

[Stosh]

I -Stick Best Build.

Single twisted coil 10 watt,Orchid mini,1.1 ohm running at 10 watts.Plugged one air hole with plastic qutip for excellent AF.

Best setting on this is to stick on the tank and hit the wattage go up or down and it will stop at the correct setting.I can bump it up a few watts and still be ok,any higher and i get the ''rattlesnake'''popping with the wick and coil.Hits like a mech.

This little Eleaf I stick is the bomb.

I've run a full size Orchid V4, single 30 ga 2.0Ω coil with one air hole plugged. At 9 watts it produces clouds and uses up eliquid like it's going out of style, no need for higher wattage.

The 30 watt mods are interesting with removable batteries, but I'm not hitting anywhere 15 watts on any mod, even with my drippers, seems like wasted horsepower. YMMV

 

[Heavyrocker]

Same here,i was running dual coils at .50 watts on my mech and it seems like a waste of batt pawer and juice.I back down to 1.2 to 1.5 coils at lower watts,If i want to chuck massive clouds ill enter a cloud chasing contest.

 

[pokemom]

pokemom, well done and prolly better and more descriptive pics than mine, but dahlink....... do you think it might be time for a new silver 'Stick? Poor babee is pretty scratchoid!

Okay Kat. Christmas is over, so silver istick is having her new year's makeover. Is this better?

Sorry about your loss. There has to be a new mega sale coming up soon.


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[Night Hawk]

I hate to disturb the arguments here but would you guys buy another one? There's the Cloupor mini 30 watt and another mini 30 watt I can't think of right now that both take a 18650 battery. I'd jump on one of those if my istick took a dump.

You might be thinking about the Beyang 30w mod that was briefly mentioned earlier on the thread that still hasn't been listed on anything but wholesale sites at the present time. In a half hour or so the E-LVT 2.0 30w mod I ordered back on the 6th of the month will be in finally solving the next step up from two iSticks, a 20w Vamo V6, and the 20w Vamo Fire into a 30watter inbetween the two 50w mods present plus a third one on order. On first sight I wasn't too keen on the iStick at all having doubts but looked at the compact 20w plus factor for those short term jaunts not the all the time vaping device.

Definitely not. And I don't think I could recommend it.

It was great for what it was but it's really not meant to last very long. It's not easy to work on and not really meant to be taken apart. It was great for my purposes which was to hold me over until I figured out what I really wanted. It also accelerated the "mini" mod markets and now there's many more choices for a small mod.

Here I was waiting until the early specials were first seen in the first half of November to pick and choose what would be the plan for a yearly upgrade out of the old stuff to a greater degree while still using the eGo type vv/vw batteries. When buying the first for a lookover and simply having something small for a quick jaunt and nothing else rather then packing the MVP or VTR on a belt holster still needing a retaining strap or one of the 3-15w batteries I then decided to get the second spare and sold out at first vendor try next! It stills the purpose of the quick grab type compact device but certainly not the all day deal when I just pre-ordered a pair of 8ml Kraigen Atlantis tanks for two of the 50watters! with another on order but held off on ordering 4 wanting two stainless steel tank cover over tanks for the 30w in shortly and the ZNA 50 in particular. The ECig V9 while an 18650 50w mod there does kind fit slightly into the larger mini mod dept. there.

I have 2 so the only way I would buy another is if they were on sale for ~$20. Not that I'm knocking them, I just don't need any more.

I'm waiting for the Cloupor mini to come out and even then I'll wait for the reviews and the ECF members feedback. I really like the replaceable battery and the 30 watt capability.

Well that's precisely what I was initially taking looks at when word first came up about these 20w compacts since the Groove II had a 3800mah sealed battery in a cheap casing and apparently not so good chip card that quit! The two kits ended up being one form of replacement considering the price on the mod that DOAed went for. So I took a chance!

I would probably just buy another one. I don't want anything bigger or heavier. I don't care about wpm, rmv, %#*, pdq, ....
I have 2, no problems so far. I don't go over 10 watts, so what would I do with 30.
I love it for the battery life and form factor. The charging port and ohm reading are valuable to me too. But that's about it.

Upon finding the Nautilus Mini tanks to be worth the effort I certainly won't be needing the 10w mini stick for the Smok Tumblers at all since those can stick run 6-10w on the iStick 20s if need be. At first I wasn't sure what to expect when getting into the 50w BEC Pro or ZNA 50 as well as the Atlantis tanks but so far I can easily favor the replacement 8ml size tank coming as well as running the Nautilus on all the 20watters I rounded up. The increased vapor with the heavier mods doesn't mean sacrifice of all flavor in contrast but I certainly not much of a cloud chase either.

The key factor is mainly the tank as well as what ejuice you toss in when bringing the watts up! Having a pair of 50w APVs running with Atlantis tanks some menthols are best kept about 20w while some fruit and berry blends can run upwards of 50w for periods of time without vaping hot. Once something gives you the hot bite then you simply back it down until you locate the premium location where everything meshes. I run the Tumblers usually at 7 with 2ohm coils since that seems to be the best for the tank design as well as the coils being made for things like the eGo type battery or MVP.

 

[SS stingray]

I hate to disturb the arguments here but would you guys buy another one? There's the Cloupor mini 30 watt and another mini 30 watt I can't think of right now that both take a 18650 battery. I'd jump on one of those if my istick took a dump.

No way buy another !! May consider if they change 510 and have a replaceable battery but the Cloupor Mini will be soon shipping. And the new Mini has the features I want. Not even worth reworking the old Stick with new mods coming out. Eleaf opened the door but made mistakes and are slow to correct ........

 

[KTMRider]

If you really want a mini that's reliable, I'd highly recommend the VS DNA 30. I know it's only 1200mah but it's a Lipo and good for over 5 hrs of chain vaping at 12w (1.5Ω coil). It charges at 800ma vs 500ma and it's not much bigger than an Istick but made so much better and it has a genuine DNA 30 chip. It's on sale for $99.99. I'm not sure if the 10% code works but it's : HOHOHO.

Hana clone, rDNA 40, DNA 30, Istick