I think the main difference in height is in the top cap. I've seen the width dimension on the 30 vary .3mm and .8mm narrower than the 20 in 2 different sites.
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Just a heads up for those who are interested in the 50 watt istick...
VapeNW is selling pre-orders for only $45.99! iStick 50W by Eleaf $45.99 (PRE ORDER) - Coming Soon
That's the cheapest i've seen on the net. Do what i did... buy two and get free shipping
What kills me about these places they show pre-order and Availabiliity: instock at the same time when it's not even out yet!
iStick 50W by Eleaf $45.99 (PRE ORDER)
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Availability: In stock
??? January 26th possibly a little sooner but....
Meanwhile I kind of favor another item of interest for about the same as the preorder price, Smok XPro M65 65w mod $49.99 instock.
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Hasn't he been out of town/the country? Give him a break.
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The M65 (aka the M50 with upgraded software lol) is super appealing! Downsides, in my opinion: Only (1) battery slot... 4 screws to undo battery door... suspect 510 threading.. (is it stainless steel?)
I'm more interested in the M65 Plus (out soon) which is more of an iStick 50w clone with two, non-removable 18650's and 4400 mAh. SMOK XPRO M65 Plus
Not knocking him. He doesn't have to be the first. But he has built up quite the reputation among the community. Have high expectations for him.
I really like how a few videos ago he said "this is an advanced mod and I will try not to do many of these as this is not my target market."
Ya the side by side make it clear that it's exactly the same except for the top cap. Also, it wouldn't make sense for them to change the whole body otherwise; especially considering how fast they came out.
And since that top cap would be a bit hard to do much wrapping for, I think all of the old 20 wraps will work fine on the 30. I'll know in a few days for sure when I get mine. I have an old jwrap that I'll put on it.
That looks the exact same thing as seen at the evape.us link which simply left off the plus at the end. The difference of course is not seeing replaceable batteries over providing your own and using the plug in cable to charge batteries in the unit. I already have the 30w E-LVT where you do the same. Some of that type of mod will see a magnet cover for ease at removal for using a separate charger. The E-LVT has the one fastener on that mod while others see four.
That just came out while another 50w has been out for a moth or so now. The other mod is bluetooth capable being the BT50 mod. SMOK Xpro BT50W Mod
I'll pass on the two or three batteries required either way however since I passe the 180w SMY GOD Mod that takes three 18650s. The other one however would allow me to use a pair of 3100mah high drain batteries simply to see 6200mah total over the batteries that come sealed in it.The other two mods coming in only take a single 18650 battery in contrast one being the 50w ordered in December and a 150w with wooden body ordered on the first. I won't be cranking things up over a 100w soon but will have the option to do so later with that one.
... for wraps I haven't tried taking one off yet to find out. But as a rule they tend to lose the stick as well as roll up on you if not scraped to get them off.
The blurb for the M65 makes it sound like a stellar device - the words 'Smoktech' and 'Li-poly' used so close to one another fills me with fear though.
I like the Eleaf design ethic - I will wait for the reviews of both devices before I spend my pennies...
The OP!! Quite a monster thread you started ! Curious --did you end up buying an iStick?
The drawback to the M65 Plus is its width. It is powered by (most likely) the same battery setup as the iStick 50W, dual 18650, 2200mAh Li-Po; yet is 1cm wider at 55mm (The M50 is 38mm wide). If you don't have especially large hands, wrap one around an old pack of analog kings, and that's what you'll be holding. I love the idea of 4400mAh of Lipo power. But 55mm is too big for me.
ETA: The M65 is more than simply the M50 with a new firmware. The M65 has further software functionality that coordinates with your computer and some kind of "temperature control", that, according to SMOK's description, apes Evolv's technology in some form.
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Actually they totally can, at least the carbon fiber ones. I just looked in my cabinet at the few i had....and I couldn't even tell which one was the one I peeled off. I think it was a bit rolled up weird when I took it off, but I just put it back on the sticker cover thing it came on, and it looks good as new. I think letting it settle back on something made it right again. Surprisingly durable.
Night Hawk, good point. But at least with the Jwrap, it appears to be the exception. I also think it might be because istick is smooth metal. Not much to get too attached to.
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I did and I love it of course, it has it's foibles but it does it's job do well.
Waiting on the 50 although I'm not a high wattage kind of guy - the battery life will make it an epic device - hoping it outputs a nice flat signal though!
Both of the ones for my iStick that I purchased from a seller on ebay have been removed and replaced a couple of times and look great. Here are both of my iSticks with the ebay wrap, removed and replaced at least three times.
First time I removed them I found out I forgot to remove the protective cover over the display, took me awhile to get it off of the sticky part of the wrap.
See below, try using heat to soften and warm the adhesive.
My wrap that I bought for my iPV mini from jwrap (pictured above) may have been stretched beyond being able to reuse it again. I replaced it with a wood grain from vaproskinz and it looks SWEET
Going to try and use a hair dryer to reapply to my buddies iPV.
Cool-- I saw your post that first day --almost 10,000 now! The 50w appeals to me for the battery life also.
Hmm, isn't that also enabled on the M50 when you download the new update? Some seem to think upgrading the M50 basically turns it into a M65... but if there is a temp control DNA40-esq chip in there... that's pretty dope!
According to SMOK's website, the M50 update simply raises max wattage to 65 and enables vape-while-charging. It mentions nothing about the other features of the M65.
Being able to update the wattage doesn't necessarily mean every other feature is bundled along with the increased output capacity. It does suggest however that Smoktech is leaning more towards the cyber side of things. I was just over some other new batteries now seeing voice control?! Pretty soon your mod will be featuring an inbox if not voice mail instead of Vape Mail!
So far the only wrap I have put on anything was on the MVP 2.0 which works out since ironically it was before any news about the 20W or 3.0 came along! Not having pulled that off at all I was thinking more along the lines of other types of stickers and the problems with those trying to preserve let alone use any again. Having the wrap helps if the 20W on the front gets worn off at least there won't be any confusion with the two both being the same color with the 2.0 seeing the wrap.
I suspect being that the M65 is a more involved model Smoktech put more into it since they were going to be asking a bit more for it besides just the 15w increase but the Bluetooth capability seen with some of their other stuff lately as well. They came out with the update for those who just bought the 50w model just before the 65w came on the scene and don't want people returning one for the other! That hasn't been the case with Eleaf however since those who would have preferred the 30w or 50w model wouldn't have bought the 20w if they had known about the other two at the same time. In both cases however the bugs have likely been fixed between the two brands.
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