Eleaf Istick

[pokemom]

My previous posts may have spoiled the ending here a bit. I am enjoying my istick 30W.

For those looking for empirical test results, they'll be a while. The 30W is performing so well for me that any further testing is purely academic.

Let's start at the top.

The 510 connection is much improved. Threading is clean and stainless steel. The center pin is spring-loaded with what appears to be a 3mm travel.

I have topped it with:

510-eGo adapter and EVODv1 & EVOD Glass with 1.6Ω/1.8Ω stock heads and 1.4Ω rebuilds.
ProTank2 w/AFC with rebuilt Kanger heads, both 1.8Ω horizontal and 1.6Ω BVC
AnyVape Peakomizer with 1.6Ω rebuilt Kanger BVC
Erlkonigin Clone with 1.7Ω 28g/rayon
KayfunLite+ v2 with 1.6Ω twisted 30g/rayon
IGO L with 0.8Ω twisted 28g/rayon
Plume Veil Clone with 0.5Ω dual twisted 30g/rayon
Veritas Clone with 0.8Ω single twisted 28g/rayon

All atomizers:

Sit flush and solid with the top cap.
Have solid, consistent resistance.
Fire every time I push the button.


Below the top cap, the 30W appears to be physically identical to the 20W.
- I can hold it and use it in the exact same manner.
- Buttons still rattle. But everything else is solid.
- The brilliant form-factor and weight are the same.

I haven't taken it apart yet. So I can't speak to workmanship and quality control.
- Rest assured that I will be reinforcing the USB with some epoxy or hot glue just as I did my second 20W.


The chipset appears to be doing its job, reasonably close to spec.

Resistance readings are spot on, maybe < 0.1Ω high.
5-30W
2-8V
It fires directly out of sleep and every time I press the button. (ie. no phantom button issues)
PWM, 22kHz with light "filtering"
Every atomizer I put on it fires beautifully with no burning. This is a pretty smooth vape, folks.
It may be firing a bit hot, <25%. But even a minimum of 2.5V will allow us to fire practically anything we have at our preferred vape.
- Even twists/spinners only fire down to 3.2V minimum. Some are higher.
Settings lock works as speced.
Lefty/Righty mode is there.
Still no stealth mode.
The battery still wears those bunny ears.


I could sit here and nit-pick. But I don't expect the 30W iStick to regulate as well as a ProVari, have the build quality of a ZEN Mod or the beauty of many hand-crafted, bespoke mods. If we expect any of the aforementioned, we should be prepared to dig deeper into our pockets.

In summary, if you like the 20W iStick, you will love the 30watter. It is everything the 20W SHOULD have been with more power, across a wider range of resistances. For $35, the iStick 30W is a no-brainer.

I hate typing one-handed.

Great. [emoji16] I've had one in a cart of three different vendors the past 2 days, and haven't pushed the button yet. I have 3 20Ws and a mini (not to mention an MVP 2.0 and 2 vvv3s). I don't NEED one, but it just sounds so wonderful...Grrr. What to do? What to do?

 

[BigMak45]

Great to hear! Glad I ordered one this morning!

 

[aldenf]

Great. [emoji16] I've had one in a cart of three different vendors the past 2 days, and haven't pushed the button yet. I have 3 20Ws and a mini (not to mention an MVP 2.0 and 2 vvv3s). I don't NEED one, but it just sounds so wonderful...Grrr. What to do? What to do?

You already have your mini mods. If you don't NEED the 30W then wait for the 50W for $15 more. You'll really be able to chuck those clouds!

 

[four2109]

Great. [emoji16] I've had one in a cart of three different vendors the past 2 days, and haven't pushed the button yet. I have 3 20Ws and a mini (not to mention an MVP 2.0 and 2 vvv3s). I don't NEED one, but it just sounds so wonderful...Grrr. What to do? What to do?

I am in the same boat. As much as I want to buy a mini or a 30W, I have trigger thumb that I can only attribute to my isticks, so I have had to park them for now. My egrip too. sucks. I love these things. sigh.

 

[pokemom]

You already have your mini mods. If you don't NEED the 30W then wait for the 50W for $15 more. You'll really be able to chuck those clouds!

I'm not much of a chucker! Not into rebuilding (can't see the little screws and don't want to get into magnifiers, etc.) Haven't sub-ohmed. Considering buying the melo when it is released (although I like the idea of the kanger sub-tank mini (22 mm instead of the 25 of the original). So, I really don't NEED it.

That said, one of my 20s is starting to act a bit "funky." and none of them will read a tank with an afc adapter on them, so maybe...

 

[aldenf]

I am in the same boat. As much as I want to buy a mini or a 30W, I have trigger thumb that I can only attribute to my isticks, so I have had to park them for now. My egrip too. sucks. I love these things. sigh.

Trigger thumb? Now the middle-aged vapers suffer from the same maladies as the teenaged gamers.

 

[Ricky Spanish]

I'm not much of a chucker! Not into rebuilding (can't see the little screws and don't want to get into magnifiers, etc.) Haven't sub-ohmed. Considering buying the melo when it is released (although I like the idea of the kanger sub-tank mini (22 mm instead of the 25 of the original). So, I really don't NEED it.

That said, one of my 20s is starting to act a bit "funky." and none of them will read a tank with an afc adapter on them, so maybe...

(Sorry, I'm a bit of an antagonist.)

 

[aldenf]

I'm not much of a chucker! Not into rebuilding (can't see the little screws and don't want to get into magnifiers, etc.) Haven't sub-ohmed. Considering buying the melo when it is released (although I like the idea of the kanger sub-tank mini (22 mm instead of the 25 of the original). So, I really don't NEED it.

That said, one of my 20s is starting to act a bit "funky." and none of them will read a tank with an afc adapter on them, so maybe...

If you go with a SubTank, you will want a 30W device as well, especially if you run the 0.5Ω heads. The 1.2Ω heads might vape nicely on the 20watter. I haven't seen a single vaping guru review the 1.2Ω heads. Strange. It's all about SUB-OHMING.

 

[four2109]

Trigger thumb? Now the middle-aged vapers suffer from the same maladies as the teenaged gamers.

That may be! I had never heard of it until I awoke with it a week after getting my first istick. It's incredibly painful. But hard not to reach for that stick!! My chiropractor said he usually only sees this in factory workers, repetitive motion...
So, as hard as it is, I will park them for now. Dammit!

 

[emmsma]

Think its time to turn that mod in your hand and learn to fire it with a different finger.

 

[OldLadyO]

I am in the same boat. As much as I want to buy a mini or a 30W, I have trigger thumb that I can only attribute to my isticks, so I have had to park them for now. My egrip too. sucks. I love these things. sigh.

Hey Four, If you turn your stick backwards you can hit it with a different finger. Or, just change hands!

 

[OldLadyO]

emmsma beat me by 2 minutes. I type too slow.

 

[four2109]

Think its time to turn that mod in your hand and learn to fire it with a different finger.

Been there, done that. I wish it was that easy. Just trying to stick to my erolls for now.
I wanted a mini, but I think that would be even worse... since it's so small...

 

[Bikenstein]

Just grip it fist style and give it a little squeeze

 

[four2109]

Hey Four, If you turn your stick backwards you can hit it with a different finger. Or, just change hands!

I did that, Got it in my left wrist now. Not kidding. I'm just going to have to put the damn thing down.

 

[ThunderDan]

If you go with a SubTank, you will want a 30W device as well, especially if you run the 0.5Ω heads. The 1.2Ω heads might vape nicely on the 20watter. I haven't seen a single vaping guru review the 1.2Ω heads. Strange. It's all about SUB-OHMING.

I've been using the 1.2ohm head with my subtank for the last week or so on my Hana clone around 20-24w and its lovely. Maybe a little less vapor than the .5ohm head, maybe, but the flavor is still on point.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

 

[four2109]

Trigger thumb? Now the middle-aged vapers suffer from the same maladies as the teenaged gamers.

Yeah, At first I thought it was from using my cell phone for google and navigation... instead of the computer because I was on vacation.

 

[Javamon]

The baby rattle effect...

Ahhh. Now I get it. And, yeah, mine makes a bit of a rattle.

How do you people notice this stuff?

 

[Katdarling]

Egos in 2007? You might be in a time warp!
In 2009, I bought 801, 901, 401, minis. I think there was a cigar and pipe style available. Then came the 510, and then the Ego... So either late '09 or '10.
I didn't jump in then so I don't remember. Someone here will.

I know the eGo was THE THING in late 2010.

J-Stick was 10440 and not that good. I really liked the J-stick form though I bought 'Bartlebys' because of the in box charger.

Bartleby e-cig mod reviews

Bart

alden,

As I'm sure you know, 22kHz is 2200 times faster than 100Hz, not 22. (Typos be damned.) The only reason I mention this is because 2200 times faster than a ProVari sounds so much more impressive. Now, I'm not an engineer, so I don't know what's involved in setting the pulse rate for a PWM chip---maybe it's as easy as typing numbers into the software code. Or maybe not. And ProVape certainly invested time and energy in more sophisticated post-pulse filtering. At the end of the day, I don't really know if the difference in pulse rate between a ProVari and a 30W iStick is truly significant, sort of meaningful, or basically irrelevant. I'll bet you know, though.

Anyway, I'm glad to confirm that Joyetech/eLeaf got the message about mean/avg calibration. OK, they didn't switch to "true" RMS---there's still some discernible power boost at low voltages, and no "actual" bucking below battery voltage. But the 30W and 50W are more accurately calibrated than the 20W, and that makes me smile.

An iStick 30W should be in my mailbox today or tomorrow, and I fear that I'm doomed to pop for a 50W, which will almost certainly lead to a Kanger Subtank and then probably many other new toys I don't need. Gosh, I'm such as easy mark. Some people collect cars or stuff their closets with clothes and shoes. I buy cabinets full of vaping gear. Sigh.

Move over, shoes. I got some new vape gear! (Not joking actually.... I've had to re-do many a cabinet over the years.)

Now that aldenf has posted his findings...I'm off to order a 30Watt-iStick. But...before I forget...

I have 3 iSticks(20Watt) with 3 Nauty Mini's. I use 1.8Ω BVC's, run them somewhere around 8 Watts and like best the 2nd largest air hole.

Whenever I (infrequently) get a "hint" of gurgling...I go to the next largest air hole and turn the iStick up 0.5-1 Watt. After 10-15 hits it usually stops gurgling and I go back to my original settings.

Occasionally...I'll have to go up to the largest hole and an additional 2 Watts to clear it.

If that doesn't work...I figure it's telling me I need a new head (which always fixes it).

gerry-fix! I love it! Open the air, increase the power. (mental notes being written)

Great. [emoji16] I've had one in a cart of three different vendors the past 2 days, and haven't pushed the button yet. I have 3 20Ws and a mini (not to mention an MVP 2.0 and 2 vvv3s). I don't NEED one, but it just sounds so wonderful...Grrr. What to do? What to do?

Let's hold hands and jump.

~Thelma

Just grip it fist style and give it a little squeeze

still discussing 'Sticks, right?

 

[pokemom]

I know the eGo was THE THING in late 2010.





Bart






Move over, shoes. I got some new vape gear! (Not joking actually.... I've had to re-do many a cabinet over the years.)






gerry-fix! I love it! Open the air, increase the power. (mental notes being written)





Let's hold hands and jump.

~Thelma







still discussing 'Sticks, right?

Kat,

I'll be a Louise to your Thelma anyday!