Electric Cigarette/Loser?

[AttyPops]

So.. Was he calling you a loser for ecigs?

I had an experience like that on FB. I'd become newly unemployed - "let go" so that my job could be filled with a vendor/contractor at 1/3 my salary. I let that slip with one of my so-called friends in a FB thread. Within minutes, a bunch of "friends of friends of friends" started piling on how I was a loser and how I was gonna cost them money to pay for my unemployment, health insurance, ER bills, etc.. Bunch of tea-party types, really. I was stunned - these people didn't really know me, but felt perfectly justified to making me out to be the scum of society.

My solution was to un-friend the lot of 'em. Haven't been on FB in the 2 years since. That's my advice.

Also, +1 for "leaf burners" - gonna use that one!

Don't worry about the "FB tea party types". They're just isolating a group and targeting them with hate. The Nazi's did the same type of thing.
OK... on 2nd thought...worry.

@OP: If he was a kid vaping an E-cig on a bus ... I don't think the comment was too out of line. Shouldn't smoke, or vape, on a bus IMO. Too close quarters. Remember we don't encourage e-cig use for anything other than harm reduction for people that smoked. So... avoiding the "Hey ... vaping is Soooo Coool" thing is OK with me.

 

[Wil]

I don't vape on the bus, but even if I did I'd make a lot smaller cloud than the girl who sat next to me this morning reaking of smoke. I caught myself almost looking down on her. That was me last year... So much easier to see why smokers are demonized when you're on the other side. Glad I caught myself before I did it!

If smokers are cool, do you really want to be cool? Perhaps it is just a little bit geeky, but I've been dealing with that my whole life...

 

[Eddie.Willers]

One more for that great expression "leaf burner" - hafta' try and use that one!

 

[Sanity Challenged]

Newest comment from HIS friend,
" If you use your cell phone while smoking an electric cigarette......it will cause something!"

....Satisfaction?

 

[Off Topic]

As if I needed another reason to not be on Facebook.

I always assumed that having every detail of my life sold to the plutocracy was enough.

 

[mooreted]

Some people like to feel superior somehow.

"Look at that guy with a 49ers hat on; what a loser."

It's always something. They have a problem, not you.


Sent from my easy chair using brainwaves.

 

[mooreted]

Here's my take on your associate. Funny, it's the very thing he's craving with his asinine comment.

Lmao


Sent from my easy chair using brainwaves.

 

[Sdh]

I feel that most negative remarks/actions are due to misinformation. However, I still have the problem of some folks laughing at me at work. They are fellow nurses. I hear comments such as "you're still doing that" and "when are you really going to quit smoking?"

Allot of my fellow co-workers still smoke. They huddle by the garbage dumpsters...Yeah real cool but whatever. I don't judge them-I accept the fact that I am a addict just like them. However, I may live longer than them. I keep to myself on my thoughts due to their ignorance and misunderstanding. I feel so alone in real life with vaping.

 

[madjack]

Here's my take on your associate. Funny, it's the very thing he's craving with his asinine comment.

...there is a really old saying..."never argue with a fool, they will just pull you down to their level and beat ya with experience".................
madjack

 

[ChellyNelly]

I've run into smokers who are jealous of me for quitting... seems like that anyway. For example at school. I use my PV in the school on breaks or in class (seldom). Since I quit smoking the other smokers have kind of cast me out. They give me dirty looks and don't talk to me much anymore. We're all adults, hard to believe by that behaviour, eh? They'll also make remarks like "you're not allowed to smoke in school!" (or "there's nothing wrong with real smoking" or "you're still using that thing? you look so stupid") just to be a jerk. They know I'm not smoking, they understand how it works and are the only ones who disapprove of it. All my other classmates who're non-smokers are very happy for me and think that vaping is awesome. They love that I quit so easily and they like the smell of the vape too!

Let them be jealous. I've offered to even use my own credit card to place orders for these people and help them quit and they laugh at me. Let 'em laugh... joke's on them in reality.

 

[angryguy77]

Don't worry about the tea party. They're just isolating a group and targeting them with hate. The Nazi's did the same type of thing.
OK... on 2nd thought...worry.

@OP: If he was a kid vaping an E-cig on a bus ... I don't think the comment was too out of line. Shouldn't smoke, or vape, on a bus IMO. Too close quarters. Remember we don't encourage e-cig use for anything other than harm reduction for people that smoked. So... avoiding the "Hey ... vaping is Soooo Coool" thing is OK with me.

Not exactly, and to compare them to Nazi's is ignorant to say the least. Most rational people who have issues with UE, don't have issues with the people who were let go like rusty. The issue comes when someones sits on their ... for months and collects without trying to get off of it. Either there was a miscommunication on his FB post, more to this than what we are being told, he's making an generalizations about people that are false, or he's exaggerating the numbers.

BTW, Nazi's forced people to conform to their belief...kind of like making private hospitals do things against their religious beliefs.

 

[AttyPops]

Wow. That was angry. I should have clarified the post... not really Tea Party but those "Bunch of tea-party types" (his words) posters he was referring to on FB (who may not even be in the tea party).

And I'm far from the only one concerned about Hate Groups... of all kinds. The Nazi comment is just a generalization of that, not really much more. You hear it on the news too. It's about "thought manipulation", isolating a group, and Hate speech.... what those he was discussing were supposedly engaged in.

So the comment was poorly thought out, and I certainly didn't mean that tea party people are all Nazi types. The comment was a reference to those he was complaining about.

In any event, I'll edit to clarify the subject of the reference.

 

[Taintedhalo]

Hands Atty a cookie its ok

 

[AttyPops]

I feel that most negative remarks/actions are due to misinformation. However, I still have the problem of some folks laughing at me at work. They are fellow nurses. I hear comments such as "you're still doing that" and "when are you really going to quit smoking?"

Allot of my fellow co-workers still smoke. They huddle by the garbage dumpsters...Yeah real cool but whatever. I don't judge them-I accept the fact that I am a addict just like them. However, I may live longer than them. I keep to myself on my thoughts due to their ignorance and misunderstanding. I feel so alone in real life with vaping.

We're with you Sdh!!!!!!! Hang in there!

 

[TonyTT]

Don't let the haters get to you. They don't get it because they haven't tried it. I now laugh at the leaf burners, such a primitive method of nicotine delivery

thanks to vaping.... I have the lung capacity to laugh much longer then I ever could as a smoker

 

[AzPlumber]

...there is a really old saying..."never argue with a fool, they will just pull you down to their level and beat ya with experience".................
madjack

Yep I always say "arguing with an idiot just looks like two idiots arguing"

 

[TonyTT]

I've run into smokers who are jealous of me for quitting... seems like that anyway. For example at school. I use my PV in the school on breaks or in class (seldom). Since I quit smoking the other smokers have kind of cast me out. They give me dirty looks and don't talk to me much anymore. We're all adults, hard to believe by that behaviour, eh? They'll also make remarks like "you're not allowed to smoke in school!" (or "there's nothing wrong with real smoking" or "you're still using that thing? you look so stupid") just to be a jerk. They know I'm not smoking, they understand how it works and are the only ones who disapprove of it. All my other classmates who're non-smokers are very happy for me and think that vaping is awesome. They love that I quit so easily and they like the smell of the vape too!

Let them be jealous. I've offered to even use my own credit card to place orders for these people and help them quit and they laugh at me. Let 'em laugh... joke's on them in reality.

I find the only place a smoker has to feel cool any more is on those little patches of land 9 metres away from any building...I know I quit smoking because it was effecting my ability to make friends in university...not noticeably, but I noticed I would segregate myself cause I knew I smelled and was subconcious about it.

Don't worry about smokers bagging on e-cigs...The only thought I have for that situation is:

"Why are you making fun of me?, I used to be a smoker, so I KNOW, you know how bad you smell"

I find the good points outway the bad, I started hanging out with a lot of my non-smoker friends again, who I was embarassed to be around. One of them came out with me while I "had a smoke", when we came back, another girl asked why'd you go out with him for a smoke?....and why do you keep using air quotes when you say "smoke", and my friend just couldn't say enough good things..."It's an electronic cigarette, no fire, so no carcinogens...and it comes in all these awesome flavors, so I just love standing down wind, doesn't he smell like hazlenut and vanilla!?!?"...then the other girl sniffed me, said "yum!", and looked really impressed...

 

[ricks]

It wasn't until I quit smoking, I realized how bad cigarette smokers stink. It is really nasty. I am so thankful for ecigs.

 

[inanitydefined]

This. I find with the people actually brave enough to say something its a great conversation piece. I used to smoke a pipe for the same reason. And on a road trip I can grab my nic, hop in the car and not worry about rolling my window down and everyone throwing gum and hand sanitizer at me.

I find the only place a smoker has to feel cool any more is on those little patches of land 9 metres away from any building...I know I quit smoking because it was effecting my ability to make friends in university...not noticeably, but I noticed I would segregate myself cause I knew I smelled and was subconcious about it.Don't worry about smokers bagging on e-cigs...The only thought I have for that situation is:"Why are you making fun of me?, I used to be a smoker, so I KNOW, you know how bad you smell"I find the good points outway the bad, I started hanging out with a lot of my non-smoker friends again, who I was embarassed to be around. One of them came out with me while I "had a smoke", when we came back, another girl asked why'd you go out with him for a smoke?....and why do you keep using air quotes when you say "smoke", and my friend just couldn't say enough good things..."It's an electronic cigarette, no fire, so no carcinogens...and it comes in all these awesome flavors, so I just love standing down wind, doesn't he smell like hazlenut and vanilla!?!?"...then the other girl sniffed me, said "yum!", and looked really impressed...

To the op, keep fighting the good fight. If vaping makes us losers, then we'll be losers that look younger and smell better, live longer, and enjoy our near effortless new means of attracting the opposite sex

 

[hulsey76]

I was on facebook today and a friend(acquaintence, NOT a friend) posted "Smoking an electric cigarette on the bus......what a loser!". I could not believe what he said.

Your "acquaintance" is ignorant. But you know that already. Chances are his criticism was directed more at the public use than the e-cig, but I am just guessing. The only response I would have is that people who speak on things they don't understand and know nothing about are the real "losers."

On another note, I'm a little perturbed by the tone behind the phrase "Tea Party types" that is being thrown around on here. I find myself in agreement with "Tea Party types" quite a bit, and because of that I'm fighting against regulation that will negatively affect vapers and limit our liberty. Does that make me a Nazi that is targeting people with hate too, just because I have a different view of what the government's legitimate role is? Sorry if that chaps someone's britches, but to me saying "Tea Party types" is just as ignorant, negative and marginalizing as calling electronic cigarette users "loser." We don't need that type of discourse to start spreading around here like it does on other forums. *climbs down from soapbox*