Electrical Question - Specific To Bloog - My First Mod Attempt...

[bruner]

Ok, I know that some of you Bloogers MUST have some backgrounds in electronics.

Please help me out with my first mod, if you can.

Here are a few related questions/statements. Please comment to each/any of them if you would...

1 - I am building a small PV that will power two Bloog cartomizers at the same time

2 - I would like to keep this mod as simple as possible and not use any resistors/voltage regulators.

3 - It is based on a battery pack that holds two "AAA" sized batteries (which would output 3v)

4 - I don't think 3v is going to be enough to power two Bloog cartomizers at once.

5 - I found that there are protected lithium-ion batteries the same size of "AAA" batteries, which would output 3.7v each or (7.4v total). They are 10440 models from madvapes.com

6 - Would (and this is closely related to question/statement #7) it work best to use two "AAA" batteries or two "10440" batteries"?

7 - Would you wire the cartomizers in parallel or in series (again, closely related to question/statement #6)?

8 - Lastly, and what I would like to avoid (closely related to questions/statements #6 & #7), if I had to, what methods of resistance or voltage regulation would/might be required if using the higher powered lithium-ion batteries?

Thanks guys/galls, I know this is a pretty deep post, but any help you can provide would be deeply appreciated. And... I will be posting the results/instructions on my mod as soon as I complete it. It will be rich with photos and instructions (in the event that anyone here wants to make one for themselves).

My whole goal here is to be able to run/burn two differently flavored cartomizers at the same time. It would be a way to do flavor combinations without pre-mixing juices.

I will call it the "Bloog Flavormeister".

Thanks Again,
Dan (bruner)

 

[want to quit]

I always said people that vape turn into "Mac Givers" love the idea. I can sadly not help with any of the questions but if it turns out to work I hope you start selling them because I probably won't be able to do it myself haha.

Good luck and keep us posted.

 

[Griffin]

3v is too low for vaping and standard (disposable) batteries don't have the juice to power an atty for very long, so you'd want to go with the 10440.

If you wire two batteries in parallel, you double the mAH (how long the batteries will work before they are drained). If you wire them in series, you would double the voltage.

Assuming that you are wiring them in parallel, for longer battery life, a pair of 10440's will run at 3.7v - they will most likley come off the charger around 4.2v but quickly drain down to 3.7v and then will drop even lower towards the end of the charge. I wouldn't think it would be necessary to add any kind of regulator, but if you want to try to regulate the voltage to 3.6v like the Bloog batteries, you'll want to take a look at the Modders forum for tips on putting together a regulator.

 

[fuzznut]

If you wire two batteries in series, you double the mAH (how long the batteries will work before they are drained). If you wire them in parallel, you would double the voltage.

You got that backwards.

 

[Griffin]

Doh! I need coffee...

You are absolutely correct: in parallel doubles the mAH and in series doubles the voltage.

 

[pmos69]

1 - I am building a small PV that will power two Bloog cartomizers at the same time

Go for it

2 - I would like to keep this mod as simple as possible and not use any resistors/voltage regulators.

No problem.

3 - It is based on a battery pack that holds two "AAA" sized batteries (which would output 3v)

4 - I don't think 3v is going to be enough to power two Bloog cartomizers at once.

The problem is not even the voltage itselft (an eGo vapes at 3.2V under load).

5 - I found that there are protected lithium-ion batteries the same size of "AAA" batteries, which would output 3.7v each or (7.4v total). They are 10440 models from madvapes.com

Yes, but wire them in parallel to keep the voltage and double the output current (and capacity).

6 - Would (and this is closely related to question/statement #7) it work best to use two "AAA" batteries or two "10440" batteries"?

2x 10440

7 - Would you wire the cartomizers in parallel or in series (again, closely related to question/statement #6)?

In parallel also, like the bats.
Again, you want the same voltage (3.7V) applied to both cartomizers.
Current will be split between them, according to their resistance.

8 - Lastly, and what I would like to avoid (closely related to questions/statements #6 & #7), if I had to, what methods of resistance or voltage regulation would/might be required if using the higher powered lithium-ion batteries?

You don't need to.
Just be careful with the wiring (Li-ion batteries are not toys, and can be dangerous).
Try to use something like 20G wiring.
When choosing a pushbutton and on-off switch, go for at least a 3 Amp rating.

Thanks guys/galls, I know this is a pretty deep post, but any help you can provide would be deeply appreciated. And... I will be posting the results/instructions on my mod as soon as I complete it. It will be rich with photos and instructions (in the event that anyone here wants to make one for themselves).

My whole goal here is to be able to run/burn two differently flavored cartomizers at the same time. It would be a way to do flavor combinations without pre-mixing juices.

I will call it the "Bloog Flavormeister".

Thanks Again,
Dan (bruner)

Thank you.

 

[bruner]

pmos69,

Thank you for so much information

I am wondering though... You suggest that I wire the batteries and the cartomizers in parallel...

Would I not get the same results if I leave the batteries in series AND the cartomizers in series?

The reason I ask is that it would be difficult for me to modify the battery storage box to work with the batteries in parallel. Also, I was thinking that having the cartomizers in series would be kind of a "feature". You see, in series, if one cartomizer dies (burns out) it will act like a fuse and prevent the second cartomizer from getting fried. Alternatively, if the cartomizers were in parallel, if one of them were to die, the next would get a "double dose" of power and surely also burn out.

Any thoughts on that? Anyone?

Thanks,
Dan (bruner)

 

[pmos69]

You can wire the bats in parallel and the cartos in paralel, or 2 bats in series and 2 cartos in series, or
2 independent circuits (1 bat per carto).

If one carto dies (stops conducting) while in parallel, the other one would keep working without changes (same voltage and same resistance).
If one carto short-circuits while in parallel, everything would stop working, assuming the bats protection circuits are working, but you can also add a fuse for extra protection.

If one carto dies (stops conducting) while in series, everything would stop working.
If one carto short-circuits while in series, you will burn the other carto.

If you have independent circuits... Well, you know how it works.

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[Evie Luv]

OMG.......ducks and hunkers down...........ALL that just flew over my little head!! But I'm impressed with ya Griffin, Fuzznut and Pmos. Glad you could help Bruner. LOL

 

[RevKaos]

You can also wire your bats in series to your flux capacitor and vape through time. Assuming your bats can provide the necessary 1.21 gigawatts of power. Although, your cartos will must likely burn out. You should bring spares just in case you get stuck in time 1955 and have to date your mom in order to reunite your parents so that you will continue to exist. Also, bring a charger.

 

[pmos69]

... Or if you're bat-man, you can just puff away in the cartos with nothing else, but that's just unfair.

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[Evie Luv]

You can also wire your bats in series to your flux capacitor and vape through time. Assuming your bats can provide the necessary 1.21 gigawatts of power. Although, your cartos will must likely burn out. You should bring spares just in case you get stuck in time 1955 and have to date your mom in order to reunite your parents so that you will continue to exist. Also, bring a charger.

LMAO now that I understood completely.

 

[Griffin]

You can also wire your bats in series to your flux capacitor and vape through time. Assuming your bats can provide the necessary 1.21 gigawatts of power. Although, your cartos will must likely burn out. You should bring spares just in case you get stuck in time 1955 and have to date your mom in order to reunite your parents so that you will continue to exist. Also, bring a charger.

And you have to take 88 puffs per hour to make it work, right Rev?

 

[RevKaos]

And you have to take 88 puffs per hour to make it work, right Rev?

No, you have to maintain 88 mbar of suction to activate the flux capacitor. That's why there is a 5 second cutoff. To prevent temporal paradoxes.

 

[Griffin]

Ahhha! Good to know!

 

[Evie Luv]

No, you have to maintain 88 mbar of suction to activate the flux capacitor. That's why there is a 5 second cutoff. To prevent temporal paradoxes.

LMAO I don't normally make it to the 5 second cutoff and even when I do, I'm not left wishing I could have inhaled longer. I always wondered why the cutoff was even needed because I have a natural cutoff built in. Meaning I can only inhale for so long. But now I can see why it is needed. Boy, Bloog sure thought of everything when they built these great batteries. They even protect us from temporal paradoxes. Way to go Bloog!! Keep up the good work Leaford!

 

[twoskinsoneman]

Why not just tape two Bloogs together? It seems like your not really gonna accomplish much... Although it might be fun anyways.

 

[Audio Weasel]

Why do I have a mental image of the spaghetti scene from Lady and the Tramp involving Bloogs?

 

[leaford]

LMAO I don't normally make it to the 5 second cutoff and even when I do, I'm not left wishing I could have inhaled longer. I always wondered why the cutoff was even needed because I have a natural cutoff built in. Meaning I can only inhale for so long. But now I can see why it is needed. Boy, Bloog sure thought of everything when they built these great batteries. They even protect us from temporal paradoxes. Way to go Bloog!! Keep up the good work Leaford!

And demons, don't forget that. Sci-fi or fantasy, it's a scary meileiu out there, and we got yer back!

 

[leaford]

Why do I have a mental image of the spaghetti scene from Lady and the Tramp involving Bloogs?

I'm imagining it involving a tea kettle, a toy car track, a bowling ball, wobbly pillar, a fish bowl on a see-saw, several springs, ropes, and pullies, a fan and home made sail, etc, etc, etc.