Worse than that, they are trying to start a class action. Not going to link it but one started December 6 made the weekly summary email on Topclassactions yesterday.
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Worse than that, they are trying to start a class action. Not going to link it but one started December 6 made the weekly summary email on Topclassactions yesterday.
i have a some simple safety tips:
always turn your mod off, when putting it into a pocket, even if placing it in your pocket for only a minute
never carry spare batteries without having them in a battery rubber sleeve or case
never carry your mod or battery in the same pocket with loose change, metal objects, or tools/keys even in case/sleeve
never charge your mod whether by usb or charger without being in the same room, as in don't leave it unattended
let the battery "rest" as in cool down after charging if it is warm
learned from sonic, when re-wrapping batteries, take rings or other conductive jewelry like bracelets off first
never leave your mod or batteries to charge where they can be knocked over or off where they are
never store your mod for extended periods with the battery in it if it is a replaceable one
pay attention to your batteries:
if they're getting hot(not warm) with use - stop using them and check your setup, make sure it's right for the coil/watts, no shorts etc
always check them for damaged wraps or the tab crushed in before you use them every time
charge them in a charger if you can, one with a readout is ideal for making sure it's charging correctly
mark the date you started using the battery on the battery when you get them, with a marker, it will let you know when they need to be recycled
always turn your mod off, when putting it into a pocket, even if placing it in your pocket for only a minute
never carry spare batteries without having them in a battery rubber sleeve or case
never carry your mod or battery in the same pocket with loose change, metal objects, or tools/keys even in case/sleeve
never charge your mod whether by usb or charger without being in the same room, as in don't leave it unattended
let the battery "rest" as in cool down after charging if it is warm
learned from sonic, when re-wrapping batteries, take rings or other conductive jewelry like bracelets off first
never leave your mod or batteries to charge where they can be knocked over or off where they are
never store your mod for extended periods with the battery in it if it is a replaceable one
pay attention to your batteries:
if they're getting hot(not warm) with use - stop using them and check your setup, make sure it's right for the coil/watts, no shorts etc
always check them for damaged wraps or the tab crushed in before you use them every time
charge them in a charger if you can, one with a readout is ideal for making sure it's charging correctly
mark the date you started using the battery on the battery when you get them, with a marker, it will let you know when they need to be recycled
I think Mooch added additional info to the Allowing a battery to rest issues. Not sure if it was about safety or use.
Replace the fire extinguisher with tongs and sand.
You can't extinguish the chemical reaction when it starts.
You just have to wait it out.
If you can throw the battery out the window without burning yourself and smother it to keep it contained, you're ahead of the game.
Tapatyped
Warnings on cigarettes just annoyed me.
How about you?
I bet they didn't stop you, either.
Case in point. You're here.
Considering they were on cig packs for years before vaping existed, I'd bet warnings don't stop you, either.
Tapatyped
That's checking them.
You can check mine all you want.
Make a copy of it and I'll figure out a way to own your copier.
That copy will be on the hdd of that copier forever.
None of my personal, critical info gets copied anywhere but home.
It's just a risk I'm not willing to take.
Tapatyped
Almost makes sense.
Considering the city already feeds it's citizens their own toilet water.
New York City’s Wastewater
Tapatyped
Warnings on cigarettes just annoyed me.
How about you?
I bet they didn't stop you, either.
Case in point. You're here.
Considering they were on cig packs for years before vaping existed, I'd bet warnings don't stop you, either.
Tapatyped
Indeed...indeed.
But I'm here because I want to be, not because I have to be.
And the number 1 safety tip ...
1. Never charge your mod or batteries at night while sleeping. Not ever. Even if it's in a fireproof concrete bunker. Ok maybe then, but only then
1. Never charge your mod or batteries at night while sleeping. Not ever. Even if it's in a fireproof concrete bunker. Ok maybe then, but only then
what about insurance purposes?And the number 1 safety tip ...
1. Never charge your mod or batteries at night while sleeping. Not ever. Even if it's in a fireproof concrete bunker. Ok maybe then, but only then
That's what the concrete bunker home insurance policy is for. Although it would really suck to have all your emergency food supply packs go up in smoke. Probably right before you need them, too.
I actually had to think a minute to get your post we're just not all that quick haha
Hmm... ever drive a getaway car?
Manufacturing defects and poor quality control and fake wrappers with false ratings can all lead to battery fires even without user error.
Nope.
Only the manufacturing defects.
Buying cheap crap with poor quality control and batteries with false ratings that you haven't confirmed and checked yourself are both user errors.
Edited to add... proper procedures should work well to mitigate most manufacturing defect losses.
Tapatyped
Im not saying the possibility isnt there, but please show me one instance where an 18650 exploded due to poor QC or a manufacturer defect.
I havent seen a QC issue with quality name brand cells.
I see this tossed around alot with zero evidence of it ever happening.
Id like to see if this is actually an issue or just speculation.
From the reports we've both read in the news and forum, it seems that the failures are most likely user errors and I think 18650 batteries are generally quite safe if used properly. But I also know from the research I've done on battery failure mechanisms that manufacturers aren't perfect and internal shorts can occur due to manufacturing defects. You know as well as I do that there have been many recalls of various lithium ion batteries due to defects that lead to fires:
CPSC Search (scroll down to see the list of recalls)
18650 batteries are not exempt from manufacturing defects or improper ratings labeling, there have been recalls:
RECALL 18650 Xtreme batteries purchased between 11/12/15 and 22/1/16
Product RecallProduct Recall
PRODUCT CHECK/RECALL - EFEST Batteries
This failure analysis report provides good information on manufacturing defects:
http://www.prba.org/wp-content/uploads/Exponent_Report_for_NFPA_-_20111.pdf
Mooch's blog is loaded with information on battery safety, ratings, and his testing proves that many batteries from unknown china manufacturing sources are improperly labeled:
Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
Finally, I totally agree with you that most of what we read about battery explosions and fires in the news, etc, is speculation. I really would like to see forensic examination of these failures, unfortunately that will likely only be presented in court in lawsuits. Here is a pretty extensive list of battery fires and explosions, unfortunately the author does a lot of speculating as to the causes:
E-Cigarette Explosions: Comprehensive List - eCig One
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