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Jaaxx

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A couple of quick hints for DIY recipes...

If you use all VG you may want to thin it out a bit (quite a bit if you want the same consistency as PG). You can use water, however I find that ethanol works better because it does not drastically reduce vapor. Try to get 95-98% alcohol if you can (in the states it's sold as Everclear or Golden Grain.)

Which leads to tip 2. VG seems to produce a "thicker" vapor that hangs in the air longer than PG. If you are making PG liquid try replacing 20-25% of the PG with VG. (in the above recipe that would be 9 drops PG + 3 drops VG for 25%) Of course this is personal preference, but I find it to boost the vapor output nicely and also give a "fuller" sensation.

Also, several of these come in very, very handy ;)

Edit - I just noticed that Kate mentions using the VG/PG mix in her original post here, so I'm just sort of repeating things evidently. Maybe this helps with some of the reasoning behind it though :pervy:
 
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xabier

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Hello, I have made my own liquid asking at a pharmacy for a mix containing:
60% propilenglicol
20% glicerol
10% distiled water
1% ethanol
1% menthol

the resting 8% I complete with 35ml(nic) totally wicked e-liquid and pipermint esential oil.
It works ok, although It doesnt last too much when i refill the cartridges
I have now received tobacco pure sauce, that is sold in 10 ml bottles to be added to the mix. Has anyone tryed to use that? whick quantity of pure sauce?

Other question. Do you use to clean the cartridges?, what do you use to clean them? how to dry them?

greetings
Xab
 

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If you are talking about tobacco absolute in pure form: probably one drop on a liter or so... that is very strong stuff (of course you could have a cut-down bottle, no way of telling from your post). Either way I would go very very carefully with adding it... if you are making a small quantity in which you want it, then perhaps just put a toothpick in the tob. abs., shake off all you can, and then carefully and quickly dip it into your liquid... then first try it, and only put in more if you can taste that it's not enough...
 

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Hello, I have made my own liquid asking at a pharmacy for a mix containing:
60% propilenglicol
20% glicerol
10% distiled water
1% ethanol
1% menthol

the resting 8% I complete with 35ml(nic) totally wicked e-liquid and pipermint esential oil.
It works ok, although It doesnt last too much when i refill the cartridges
I have now received tobacco pure sauce, that is sold in 10 ml bottles to be added to the mix. Has anyone tryed to use that? whick quantity of pure sauce?

Other question. Do you use to clean the cartridges?, what do you use to clean them? how to dry them?

greetings
Xab

Pull out the cartridge filler with some tweezers, rinse it under warm/hot water, squeeze it out a bit to get the excess water out, set it out to dry, then stuff it back into the cartridge. They dry pretty fast.

Tobacco pure sauce? What is that?

Lu
 

Kate

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Hi Xabier, welcome to the forum.

You might need to be careful that you don't use anything with oil, colourings or sugars, they might clog your atomiser. We don't know what those things or preservatives might do to our lungs so just be aware that they've not been tested for inhaling in the way we do with vaporisers.

Tobacco Sauces and fragrances for the tobacco industry
 

xabier

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Yes, you are absolutely right. But these sauces are used to mix with tobacco leaves and give them uniform taste before use the tobacco for cigarretes and be burn, so they are designed to end in our lungs. And one good think is that as a general point of view (of a profane) what can be taken after be burnt by combustion ( very high temperature), will be always much less harmful vaporized. And of course about sugars etc,, when I have used is adding one drop or two into a bottle with 10 ml of basic eliquid.
Thanks and e-handshake
 

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thanks kate. i was wondering how much of 24 mg would i add if i wanted to make 5ml and the nic strength around 10mg. could anyone give me the recipe in drops per ingrediants thanks. i also ordered prailene and creme lorann flavoring and i have 100 ml 24 strenght juice coming in from puresmoker. riskee yuice and cash cola. Any info would be great. :)
 

xabier

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I'm very interested in how it works out for you if you try the tobacco sauces Xabier, please let us know.

Watch out for signs of sensitivity or bad physical reactions won't you ... and start off with an atomiser you can afford to clog and lose, just in case.

Well, I have tryed it for three days and all is ok, my face has not turned green, I still have beard and nails....I use a small 10 ml bottle in what i make my mix I put a bit of 35mg nicotine cigar flavour and same of 35mg menthol flavour i dilute it with triple or even more of my normal mix ( propil..glicer..water..) I add somd rops of mint esential oil,,,,and now I add two drops of tobaco sauce, taste is ok, but,,,the taste is more like some pipe tobacco like dunhil, or those strong and no sweet pipe mixtures.
In any case les wait a bit because I sent an email to a german company that have promissed me to send me "virginia flavour" and after explaining them for what I need it they have answered me that they will send me the one that will be better for what I want. So, lets hope in one week I will have all the tests completed
 

xabier

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I will copy here the formula that comes in e-liquid bottle of Totally Wicked. We must thanks to this marks that they include the formula in the bottle, something that other sellers dont do and should be forbidden to sell any liquid of cartridge without written formula
I bought this bottle of 35 mg nicotine to mix with generic e-liqud

Pill Box 38 (cigar)
INGREDIENTS
Tobacco esencial oil <5%
Tobacco lead oil <5%
Nicotine from tobacco leaf <3%
Propilene glicol >65%
Glycerol <20%
Pure water <10%
there are other products but all in proportion less than 1%
 

Zuice

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Greetings vapers

I'm new on the forum but I've been reading posts for a while and have started my own DIY liquid.
I did some digging and decided on cold extraction with alcohol (100 proof vodka since its roughly 50/50 alcohol and water).
I'm using Bali Shag, I was always fond of decent RYO halfzwares, for the extract, one pouch of tobacco to 1 fifth of vodka, a total of three pouches and three fifths. I'm using a large glass container with enough space to be able to give the extract a good shake every other day or so, with a timeline of about 4 weeks. Some recomendations call for three months, but I'm not that patient on this first batch.

Once I get the extact I'll strain, filter, and reduce the solution over very low heat by half to remove the alcohol (and keep from bursting into flames) and try to conserve the nicotine. It will either be very high or super low nic. I'll be using food grade VG from the health food store as the final base for the solution hoping for a good shag RYO flavor. If anyones interested I'll keep posting on the results as I try to get something vapable.
 
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