Engineering degree needed?

[cybercrone]

Hi all:

Well, sheesh! As I said in my last post, I'm looking for a substitute for the analog and bought my first 'disposable' e-cig a couple days ago. Was too unsure of the whole process to buy a kit.

Now I'm really boggled! I feel as if (after reading supposed newbie posts and questions) I'm buying a sports car and need a degree in mechanical engineering to figure out all the parts.

Is there somewhere on the forum that has a diagram of all the parts and their names? I mean, OK, battery I understand, but there seems to be a lot of words for the parts that I'm supposing go in the middle and I don't know whether those words are interchangeable, and/or the parts are interchangeable, or whether they are all different things and some are more 'upgrade' than others - or just what.

I think the terms that are confusing me most are atomiser, carbomiser (?), clear-something, but there may be others.

Anyone good at drawing and explaining?
TIA,
~m

 

[JimCal]

Are there any vape shops up in your neck of the woods? You could always drop by one and ask questions and actually put your hands on some gear. Most of the shops here let you try before you buy.

 

[cybercrone]

And while I'm at it - what is mAh?

TIA,
~m

 

[newboy]

Milliamp hours.

 

[Susiejo]

Hello cybercrone! I'm fairly new to all of this also, but it really is not to confusing. I won't try to explain all of this because I'll probably get something wrong. But you are in the right place to learn. The people here are so knowledgable and patient that I'm sure it won't be long you'll be a pro yourself.
So I'll just say welcome and have fun here!

~Susiejo

 

[JimCal]

And while I'm at it - what is mAh?

TIA,
~m

More precisely, Milli Ampere hours.

 

[conan]

milliamp hours. Battery life.

 

[cybercrone]

@ JimCal: I haven't found any just one cheap brand of disposables and starter kits at 7-11.

Maybe if someone on the list is from Canada, and/or I get my 5 noob posts in and find a Canadian Forum, maybe there's a vape underground here somewhere that I can key into.

And someone mentioned head shops, I know we have several of those, so I can try there. I just do most of my stuff on-line because many days it's very hard to get out. I've got to get off the analogues quickly and try and get some breath back. Ya know?

 

[tnt56]

Welcome to ECF first off. I'm sorry to inform you but it's gonna take a few attempts to find the right device and juice delivery system for your own preference. The Vision brand vivi nova is a good start, or the Kanger T3's. Just check out the forum and the WWW and you'll find both.
Good luck and best wishes for your success.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

It comes in time and with experience. Get a good starter kit, that provides the best flexibility and some useful product knowledge. I see the MyVaporStore.com kit below recommended a lot:

http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm

With this kit you can get both one Twist and one Spinner battery and one eVod and one MT3s topper. That's four pieces of gear providing four different setups from three of the better manufacturers. You won't have to upgrade this kit until and if you decide to go to an advanced personal vaporizer (APV). In the meantime, you'll have two very good variable voltage (vv) ego style batteries. the VV will allow you to customize your vape, enabling you to find the sweet spot with your juice and vape. The eVod is probably the most recommended topper device currently on this forum. Personally, I love them and I have all types and many of them. The MT3s is much like a bigger eVod, and quite good as well. Try these for a few weeks, read the forums, you'll pick it up quicker than you think.

From this start, you'll upgrade to better batteries and APV's. You'll also upgrade the eVod/MT3s toppers (clearomizers) to perhaps a Protank, a cartomizer tank, or even other clearomizers. The main thing is vape, not smoke. The upgrades will come later. What you need now is good gear and strong enough nic juice to power through the nicotine cravings. A good place to start is 24 mg/ml juice and then lower it from there. Initially, though, the stronger juice is often required to beat the analog habit (smoking). For me, I tried vaping twice before succeeding because I had weak gear and weak juice and it just didn't do it for me. This third/last time I got a kit similar to that recommended above, some strong cherry e-juice, and made it. No one was more surprised than me. Certainly half of the fun of this new vaping world is the Journey, which does include learning about the upgrades, the gear, the different juices, etc. Still can't believe I made it. I was a 3 PAD smoker. Now I vape and never smoke. My wife quit the same day I did, and she loves her gear. Took her months to get an APV, she started with the exact kit recommended to you. Now she's the Vape Queen, can talk the lingo, etc. She resisted the better equipment along the way. For me it came easier.....guess I'm a natural. I now have a dozen APV's, make my own juice and hang out here. However, somewhere between the two extremes is probably where most people are. Welcome to ECF, congrats on getting here, good luck and Vape On!

 

[ShariR]

Welcome. It is mind boggling in the beginning. I still don't know what most of this stuff is. If you learn better visually than with just words go on Youtube and watch videos of Pbusardo, he is very informative and also funny. There's another guy, I think he is called Gimmerman or something like that. But once you find Pbusardo, there will all kinds of related videos. there is also a section here on the ECF forum with video reviews. And some blogs that will explain the terminology and stuff. I have read some of Baditudes and Ocelot's posts and blogs and they have helped me. I have to keep going back to them and I end up making notes and then go on YouTube.

 

[Smokachino]

Welcome to ECF! A great resource for our Canadian friends is http://vaporjoescanada.blogspot.com/

Follow ........ for a couple of days and you'll learn a lot and find where to get good deals online. I know all the vaping terminology can seem confusing at first, but stick around and you'll learn a lot in no time. Also, this awesome forum has a link to The Info Zone at the top of the page. Lots of great info there, too!

Cheers, and happy vaping

 

[SASmith]

@ JimCal: I haven't found any just one cheap brand of disposables and starter kits at 7-11.

Maybe if someone on the list is from Canada, and/or I get my 5 noob posts in and find a Canadian Forum, maybe there's a vape underground here somewhere that I can key into.

And someone mentioned head shops, I know we have several of those, so I can try there. I just do most of my stuff on-line because many days it's very hard to get out. I've got to get off the analogues quickly and try and get some breath back. Ya know?

Hi Cybercrone
Welcome to the forum, I felt like you in the beginning, at the top of the forum there is a tab called Infozone, there are tons of resources there for beginners. There is a Canadian forum, may I suggest that you check our Canvape, they are a pretty good vendor for us Canadians. Good luck on your vaping journey!

 

[iceman68]

Here's some good info courtesy of Baditude.

Proper terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what?

I was lost in the beginning too. Spent a lot of time here on ECF and learned a lot (still learning too). Just takes time to get familiar with the lingo, parts, accessories, set-ups, etc.

 

[Lessifer]

Baditude's blog on proper terminology is great, read that. An ecig breaks down to three basic parts: battery, juice delivery device, e-liquid(juice). Batteries have mah ratings, which tells you roughly how many hours of use you'll get between recharges, about 1hr per 100mah, but probably closer to 45 minutes per 100 mah. The main categories for batteries are "cigalikes" which are usually 510 threaded or 808 threaded, ego type batteries which have 510 threading and the larger ego threading, and mods/apv's which are usually battery compartments that hold rechargeable batteries. Baditude's blog shows the most common juice delivery devices, and they usually break down into cartomizers(cartos), clearomizers, carto tanks, and rba's(rebuildable atomizers). Some of the terms crossover though, many clearos are now called tanks because they hold a lot, like the vivi nova or protank.

There is a lot of info out there, and it can be overwhelming, but you'll get there. Good luck!

 

[carldamnit]

like any other hobbies that use technology, there is quit a bit of strange lingo. I will point you to:
A PBusardo Video - Beginners Guide to E-Cigs and E-Cig Tech - YouTube

 

[mcandlish]

I've been reading here 3 weeks now and still am quite confused, don't feel bad, there's lots out there and lots to learn. I find youtube super helpful, watching reviews on products.

 

[mkbilbo]

Hi all:

Well, sheesh! As I said in my last post, I'm looking for a substitute for the analog and bought my first 'disposable' e-cig a couple days ago. Was too unsure of the whole process to buy a kit.

Now I'm really boggled! I feel as if (after reading supposed newbie posts and questions) I'm buying a sports car and need a degree in mechanical engineering to figure out all the parts.

Is there somewhere on the forum that has a diagram of all the parts and their names? I mean, OK, battery I understand, but there seems to be a lot of words for the parts that I'm supposing go in the middle and I don't know whether those words are interchangeable, and/or the parts are interchangeable, or whether they are all different things and some are more 'upgrade' than others - or just what.

I think the terms that are confusing me most are atomiser, carbomiser (?), clear-something, but there may be others.

Anyone good at drawing and explaining?
TIA,
~m

Heh. We all go through that "my eyes glaze over" phase. Believe me.

You'll get the hang of it. Now that you've got your 5 posts, pop over to the Canada forum. See what they say about a local vape shop. JimCal is right. A trip to one is a good idea. You can actually see the widgets and have somebody show you what the heck we're all going on about.

I'm in Texas so I haven't a clue who to recommend myself. I do know there are registered suppliers in the Forum Suppliers section that are up your way. But who's local to you? Dunno.

And while I'm at it - what is mAh?

Okay, that one's pretty easy. Milliamp hours. But you don't have to worry about knowing what the heck that means. It's just a measure of the battery capacity. Bigger number, bigger battery. 100 mAh is roughly about a hour of "average" use. Whatever the heck "average" means.

My Twist batteries are 1000mAh. They last about 6 hours per charge. So the 100mAh is one hour don't work for me. I'm using around 170mAh (ish) an hour. But I vape kinda heavy. Dunno. Still, 6 to 7 hours on a charge ain't bad. I got three batteries total and rotate them. One charging, one ready, one in use. Never "out".

 

[mkbilbo]

Welcome to ECF first off. I'm sorry to inform you but it's gonna take a few attempts to find the right device and juice delivery system for your own preference. The Vision brand vivi nova is a good start, or the Kanger T3's. Just check out the forum and the WWW and you'll find both.
Good luck and best wishes for your success.

Yeah. I went through two kits before settling on my current set up.

Still, I added it up and I still spent less than cigs. Given how much they cost, you have to work at spending more. Especially the price I see they've hit up in Canada. Ooof!

So even not hitting the "right" kit (right for me that is) the first time out wasn't so bad really...

 

[ms1055]

Save yourself the time and money and just start with a Provari. You'll pick up the rest in time but you'll be glad you didn't waste the money on other mods once you get the hang of it. LOL