I think I might be a special case but for the life of me I cant get Oak Barrel Cider to work well in a carto for more than a day or two. Works great in oddy drip mode, HH357 and all my gennies. LBL also kills my cartos but in a much longer period of time, more around a week. I like my LBL in Hellfire. Grandpas is not a juice Im a huge fan of but for some reason I get this desire to vape it from time to time. Its always in drip mode for me and I like it warm. I hope some others share what they like with these juices.