Open it and add a few strands. They will glue to the existing ones. Easy way to find out
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Tony
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Might be easier to just re-wick it again.
Erlkonigin and Clone Comparison
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Might be easier to just re-wick it again.
I just built my Earl (since its a clone, I guess Earl instead of Erl is appropriate)........... I bought this one from fasttech https://www.fasttech.com/products/1893600
Its small and light weight... held 5ml of juice and could probably take another 2ml with ease but since this was my first build I used a single 5ml syringe of juice, which was 60vg/40pg btw.
I coiled it with a 2mm precision screwdriver (per usual), I forgot how many wraps of 28ga kanthal but it settled to about 1.3 ohms. the 510 pin BARELY sticks out enough and I mean barely, to make contact with my mod.... I had to loosen it a 1/8 turn or so (just a fraction), so I need either a longer 510 threaded pin or a small oring or washer or something...its damn near flush with the 510 threading on the bottom of the tank...NO correction its damn near recessed inside the 510 threading.
The build deck is tiny, much smaller than I expected. Easy to build on I guess, but small and unfamiliar to me.
anyway, I wicked with koh gen do, thinned out the tails for the channels, cut basically at the juice control ring.... juiced it up, and I had to remove the black AFC disk from the bottom otherwise it woudnt make connection with my mod but the draw with it removed is nice I like an open airy draw.
Its insanely light weight......... but sounds like a jet airplane! loud and noisy...
........you can hear every particle of the air your drawing in....loudly! seriously, it is loud.....did I mention how loud this atty is? I'm surprised I dont remember reading that in the authentic thread, just a lot of gushing and awing over its performance... If I paid $140+ (or whatever it is) for an atty like this, and heard that much airflow I don't know what I would have done.... freaked out I guess. Its way WAY louder (more noisy) that any kayfun, taifun, aqua I have ever used or own...clone or authentic.... have I mentioned this atty is loud?
Vape is very good............. better than kayfun? I am only 1 tank in, so I'll reserve my judgement on vape quality until a later time. I had no leaking or wicking problems with my first attempt... I did not get the "space shuttle" sound of popping and crackling (which I actually like to be honest), I got plenty of vapor and flavor, and yes - plenty of air wushing noise. There is no stealth vaping this atty........ when you draw on it, you hear it for sure.
I really wanted to buy the authentic, I didn't because I always seem to go back to my kayfun/taifun tanks no matter what other rta I have at my disposal (authentic and clone), maybe its because I am familiar with them? maybe its because I have used and built them long enough to know how to set them up exactly the way I expect them to be? maybe they're truly better? I don't know.........I have found many tanks to be equal to the performance of the Kayfun, which is saying something, the kayfun IMO is the benchmark tank for a wonderful vape. This is right there with it so far..........is it better? I don't know yet, and the loudness is a serious thumbs down....I wonder if all the clones and the authentic for that matter are as loud (air wise) as this one?
Its small and light weight... held 5ml of juice and could probably take another 2ml with ease but since this was my first build I used a single 5ml syringe of juice, which was 60vg/40pg btw.
I coiled it with a 2mm precision screwdriver (per usual), I forgot how many wraps of 28ga kanthal but it settled to about 1.3 ohms. the 510 pin BARELY sticks out enough and I mean barely, to make contact with my mod.... I had to loosen it a 1/8 turn or so (just a fraction), so I need either a longer 510 threaded pin or a small oring or washer or something...its damn near flush with the 510 threading on the bottom of the tank...NO correction its damn near recessed inside the 510 threading.
The build deck is tiny, much smaller than I expected. Easy to build on I guess, but small and unfamiliar to me.
anyway, I wicked with koh gen do, thinned out the tails for the channels, cut basically at the juice control ring.... juiced it up, and I had to remove the black AFC disk from the bottom otherwise it woudnt make connection with my mod but the draw with it removed is nice I like an open airy draw. Its insanely light weight......... but sounds like a jet airplane! loud and noisy...
........you can hear every particle of the air your drawing in....loudly! seriously, it is loud.....did I mention how loud this atty is? I'm surprised I dont remember reading that in the authentic thread, just a lot of gushing and awing over its performance... If I paid $140+ (or whatever it is) for an atty like this, and heard that much airflow I don't know what I would have done.... freaked out I guess. Its way WAY louder (more noisy) that any kayfun, taifun, aqua I have ever used or own...clone or authentic.... have I mentioned this atty is loud?Vape is very good............. better than kayfun? I am only 1 tank in, so I'll reserve my judgement on vape quality until a later time. I had no leaking or wicking problems with my first attempt... I did not get the "space shuttle" sound of popping and crackling (which I actually like to be honest), I got plenty of vapor and flavor, and yes - plenty of air wushing noise. There is no stealth vaping this atty........ when you draw on it, you hear it for sure.
I really wanted to buy the authentic, I didn't because I always seem to go back to my kayfun/taifun tanks no matter what other rta I have at my disposal (authentic and clone), maybe its because I am familiar with them? maybe its because I have used and built them long enough to know how to set them up exactly the way I expect them to be? maybe they're truly better? I don't know.........I have found many tanks to be equal to the performance of the Kayfun, which is saying something, the kayfun IMO is the benchmark tank for a wonderful vape. This is right there with it so far..........is it better? I don't know yet, and the loudness is a serious thumbs down....I wonder if all the clones and the authentic for that matter are as loud (air wise) as this one?
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Actually Phone Guy, the loudness of this atty was mentioned in the authentic thread. Several times over. It's definitely not a stealth vape but the rewards out weigh that imo.
It is the best tank I have used (the authentic anyway). Many other die hard KF fans agree.
It is the best tank I have used (the authentic anyway). Many other die hard KF fans agree.
It's mentioned multiple times. One solution was to take cotton and stuff it in the airflow dome (with the black delrin airflow thingy removed). You might want to try that. It's supposed to reduce the cathedral like echoes of the inrushing air, dampens it down to acceptable levels, like a Boeing 747 taking off.
I've never tried that, but I'm mostly deaf, and I actually like a tight airflow.
I've never tried that, but I'm mostly deaf, and I actually like a tight airflow.
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The noise was one of the first things I was disappointed about. I've been following the ErlK threads for a couple of weeks now and have not really heard much complaints about the noise until now. I'll have to try the cotton trick.
I need to figure out this wick too. Right now, I just want to use my KFL+ as it's starting to get annoying but I'm getting closer to fixing this.
Lol, I feel the same way KTMRider. After I got those biblical floods the other night, I haven't attempted again. I'm just back to using my Rose v2 clone . But I've just been too busy to really tinker around with it. I'm going to attempt again tonight. But the reason I got annoyed is completely different from you, I actually DO want to ultra wet wicking performance, I just don't want the damn thing flooding and pouring out lol. My favorite liquids are super thick and don't wick well in anything but a dripper, so thats why I got the Erl. I always prefer an oversaturated vape to a slightly undersaturated vape. At least the Erl is able to provide me that, I just need to get better at taming this beast
. But I've just been too busy to really tinker around with it. I'm going to attempt again tonight. But the reason I got annoyed is completely different from you, I actually DO want to ultra wet wicking performance, I just don't want the damn thing flooding and pouring out lol. My favorite liquids are super thick and don't wick well in anything but a dripper, so thats why I got the Erl. I always prefer an oversaturated vape to a slightly undersaturated vape. At least the Erl is able to provide me that, I just need to get better at taming this beast The only time it flooded was with my first wick and only while filling. I didn't use enough rayon in the wick and I didn't close the afc and hold the drip tip opening. It did work fine though. I tried to fix that by adding more wick material and closing the afc and covering the drip tip opening. That fixed the filling overflow but it seems like there's too much juice that even at 20w, it can't keep up with the juice delivery. There was a slurping sound with each pull but it wasn't leaking or flooding. It was also popping and I could taste juice in my mouth. Removing the wick ring helped but it still occurs but to a much lesser extent. I never had this much trouble setting up my Kayfun. I'll probably try a couple more times because I really like the design and weight savings over the KFL+.
I can completely understand PBusardo's comment on his vid. Day 1 - I hate you. Day 2 - I don't hate you. Day 3 - You're not so bad. I think I'm on Day 2 though it's been almost a week.
I can completely understand PBusardo's comment on his vid. Day 1 - I hate you. Day 2 - I don't hate you. Day 3 - You're not so bad. I think I'm on Day 2 though it's been almost a week.
Just an FYI......IBTanks Erlk version will not fit the silver box clone. I bought the nano and regular glass and no go. They will fit the bottom but not the top cap. I actually broke the regular size one screwing down the top.
$14 bucks down the tubes......no pun intended
$14 bucks down the tubes......no pun intended
Good info. I was on the fence about ordering one if I sorted this thing out.
Update:
Cliff Notes: SUCCESS!!!! *edit Nope. Still sucks.
Long winded version: So I re-wicked again (4th time). This time, I used the same amount of rayon but I trimmed about 5-6mm out from the juice channel walls (farthest point) on the bottom, tapering to about 2mm on top instead of 3mm/flush. Wet the wick and stuff it in the juice channels. I'm not using the wick ring as it raises the chimney about a mm and extra space that allows the juice to flow too much. I also pinched the top as previously suggested. As I was screwing on the chimney, I noticed how smooth it screwed on. Like butter. I stuffed a few strands of rayon under the afc too. I filled the tank 1/2 way w/o closing the afc or holding the drip tip opening and no flooding. I've been vaping for the last 30 mins on this build and no wet slurping or popping. Noise is greatly reduced to slightly louder than my KFL+. I mentioned earlier that it produces less vapor than my KFL+ but now it's on par. Damn, they don't make this easy to love but when it's set up right, it's pretty awesome. I think I hit Day 3.
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It was working great so I decided to fill it up to use for the rest of the day. Chamber flooded and kept flooding. Nothing stopped it. Drained the tank, dried out the chamber and wicks, put it back together and flooded again. If this design is this picky about how it needs to be built, wicked and filled, I don't want it. I really wanted to like it but it just doesn't work for me. I don't think the problem is it being a clone either, it's definitely the design. I'd like to think I'm pretty good with troubleshooting problems as I work on my cars and motorcycles and am very mechanically inclined but I'm not a barber. I'm back on my KFL+ clone and I almost forgot how good vaping is. And quiet.
Dude... Not enough rayon... It was great, collapsed and started to leak... More is better
Best advice you will get:
Make a monster wick. Stuff the rayon in there until it squeezes and almost deforms the coil.
Worst case scenario? Muted flavor and maybe a little off... Better than leaking for sure.
Once you vaped the tank like that, rebuild and put a little less... Repeat... Then make another with a little less... The point here is to start with excess and to get lower until the vape is perfect... If you start the other way around you will have leaks until you nail it which for me personally is 10 times worse than Muted flavor. Remember rayon collapses just a bit meaning that a little Muted flavor for half a tank and perfection for the next 5 days is OK when you're experimenting
Stuff the coil man.
This is a kayfun but notice the amount of rayon. I used it to practice high shoulders days before the erlp arrived.
Regards
Tony
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Best advice you will get:
Make a monster wick. Stuff the rayon in there until it squeezes and almost deforms the coil.
Worst case scenario? Muted flavor and maybe a little off... Better than leaking for sure.
Once you vaped the tank like that, rebuild and put a little less... Repeat... Then make another with a little less... The point here is to start with excess and to get lower until the vape is perfect... If you start the other way around you will have leaks until you nail it which for me personally is 10 times worse than Muted flavor. Remember rayon collapses just a bit meaning that a little Muted flavor for half a tank and perfection for the next 5 days is OK when you're experimenting
Stuff the coil man.
This is a kayfun but notice the amount of rayon. I used it to practice high shoulders days before the erlp arrived.
Regards
Tony
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How it should be or how to do it w/o flooding this POS?
Loosen the drip tip, turn the top to expose the 2 openings and fill thru one of them.
Or...
Loosen the drip tip, turn the top to expose the 2 openings, tighen the afc, cover the drip tip opening and fill. Close and tighen drip tip.
Optional steps: Pray it doesn't flood, do a dance on one foot, do it while standing on your head, Throw it out and get a KFL+.
It drained until the end? Sounds like bad vacuum... With a poor wick it might leak and start to drip but never FLOW out until dry unless there is no vacuum... Top cap tight with the o-rings? You have the o-ring on the chimney right?
Regards
Tony
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Tony
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I put so much that I had to move the wick back and forth to get it to go thru the coil w/o coming apart. It was almost too tight thru the coil. That's why I left more wick on the sides. My guess would be that they made the juice channels way too big. It's way too finicky with how the wick should be set up and a pain in the ... to try and figure out. Not to mention the amount of juice I wasted.
It took me a few tries with a KF too but not nearly as finicky with the wick or setup as this thing is. And it's quiet and works great.
I don't know what to tell you then. It's not common for something like this to happen and mine never ever leaked. I still believe there must be a bad seal somewhere. Some people complained about some clones not tightening enough those two plates on the top. This would certainly cause leaking
Regards
Tony
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Tony
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