Erlkonigin and Clone Comparison

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:) I only remembered because I thought about buying a clone to use the top cap mechanism which has the lock (the erlprinz hasn't) but after reading about those not so perfect fits and wandering o-rings, I rather don't waste my money. The erlprinz top tightens down perfectly allowing vacuum to build up

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My clone tightens down perfectly and doesn't spin :p.


Agreed vakaion lol. Thanks jax. So do you think my shoulders aren't big enough in my pic? I hope thats all it is. I really don't want to have to tinker and grind down a drip tip lol. This clone will probably make me get a Prinz when they go back on sale, lol.

With the bad reviews of the ErlP, I'd get another silver box clone for half the price.
 

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Millah:

Definitely try slightly "fuller" shoulders. Although from your pics I can't tell if the shoulders are slim, or just pushed down more due to a lower sitting coil.
Oh, and experiment with less down the juice channel. It's ridiculous how little (and sometimes even none) wick you need down them. lol
 

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Filing down the drip tip, not filling lol. Not sure if thats what you meant. Because my drip tip doesn't seem to tighten far enough to prevent the top cap from spinning entirely, I can still push it open. Someone earlier suggested that might have been the problem, if its not sealing screwing down far enough. It tightens enough to prevent it from spinning on its own, but with a little force I can get it open. So I was hoping it would have been enough to seal properly. It didn't leak from the top at least, I held it upside down and on its side and no liquid came out. Its only coming out from the bottom chamber.

Heres a pic of my build after it flooded last night, maybe I'm doing something wrong.

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As jax said, I also think the shoulders are too low. After some experimentation, I came to the conclusion that the height of the shoulders should be around 2-3mm when measured from the highest point of the channel curve. No leaks here whatsoever.
 

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My clone tightens down perfectly and doesn't spin :p.

Unfortunately, that depends on the clone. Which one do you have?

With the bad reviews of the ErlP, I'd get another silver box clone for half the price.

I guess I'm lucky then. Mine is hasn't any of the issues stated but if the rumours are true, I might pick up another one when I2R starts producing it themselves :)

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As jax said, I also think the shoulders are too low. After some experimentation, I came to the conclusion that the height of the shoulders should be around 2-3mm when measured from the highest point of the channel curve. No leaks here whatsoever.

You can try what worked for me to get the shoulders right - I used my fingers to pinch it (both at the same time) and it created the perfect upside-down "V" shape taper for shoulders, it really works!!!

The pinching fluffs the shoulders and shapes them at the same time, its a win, win thing. :lol:

Try it now!
 

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Unfortunately, that depends on the clone. Which one do you have?



I guess I'm lucky then. Mine is hasn't any of the issues stated but if the rumours are true, I might pick up another one when I2R starts producing it themselves :)

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I have the silver boxed clone from Fasttech. I am definitely impressed and happy with it. I still need to experiment with the wicks though.
 
I have the silver boxed clone from Fasttech. I am definitely impressed and happy with it. I still need to experiment with the wicks though.

I got the same one as you KTM - Try the pinching technique I patented above :lol: BTW I did the build with organic cotton - Good luck!
 
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I have the silver boxed clone from Fasttech. I am definitely impressed and happy with it. I still need to experiment with the wicks though.
Interesting. I wonder if someone got the last versions that appeared recently (17-18 bucks) with colored tanks (but also have the clear version). Seems somehow the finish is different although the pics are deceiving.

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I got the same one as you KTM - Try the pinching technique I patented above :lol: BTW I did the build with organic cotton - Good luck!

I was going to try that tonight. :toast: (but I'm using rayon :p)


Interesting. I wonder if someone got the last versions that appeared recently (17-18 bucks) with colored tanks (but also have the clear version). Seems somehow the finish is different although the pics are deceiving.

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I have another ErlK clone on the way from FC (along with an Infinite KFL+ v2). Bastages lowered the price to $13.90 2 days after I ordered :blink::laugh:. Should be here next week.
 

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This is working perfectly for 24h now. No dry hits, no leaks, no gurgling

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This is working perfectly for 24h now. No dry hits, no leaks, no gurgling

(rayon)

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That's almost exactly how I wicked current build. No leaks but some condensation on the afc this morning and felt "wet" when vaping, not quite gurgling.

So you found some rayon? Hope it's not from a tampon :laugh:
 

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Naa :) a nice person from ECF sent me like 10 feet to try out a few months ago and when she saw I was looking for a local source, sent me like 50 feet more :) I'm covered for the next two years now. By that time I'm pretty sure there will be a new wick material out there or even a wickless feed system.

I usually let my erlp on its side during the night and the next day, the first two or three draws feel quite powerful but not close to wet or gurgling... Next time make the same build and put just an itzy tiny more fibers in the channels and you should be ok.

I believe it's a balance between the shoulder height and the amount of fibers in the channels.

If you put insane amounts of wick in the shoulders you don't need fibers in the channels and the same goes the other way around... Balance is the key

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    I just rewicked my Erl clone for the second time and its a lot better than the first try as I was getting some dry/burnt hits. I left the shoulders nice and thick and kept trimming the tails until there was a tiny bit running to the bottom of the channels. The more I vape on this thing the more I like it better than my Ehpro KF, so much so that Im thinking of ordering two from Focalecig.

    Has anyone tried out the one listed on FC yet, just wondering if it is pretty much the same as the silver box one I got from Fasttech?
     

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    I just rewicked my Erl clone for the second time and its a lot better than the first try as I was getting some dry/burnt hits. I left the shoulders nice and thick and kept trimming the tails until there was a tiny bit running to the bottom of the channels. The more I vape on this thing the more I like it better than my Ehpro KF, so much so that Im thinking of ordering two from Focalecig.

    Has anyone tried out the one listed on FC yet, just wondering if it is pretty much the same as the silver box one I got from Fasttech?

    I just re-wicked too but the 3rd time. The 2nd wick was still good and the coil was pretty clean after 2 tanks. Getting the wick out almost destroyed the coil though. I noticed the coil was sitting a low so I raised it a bit. It's better but still feel like it's slightly wet but clearing out, I think. I felt like a barber trimming the wick :laugh: I did the patented pinch method before installing the chimney.

    I have one incoming from FC but I'm not too optimistic about it. They have it for $13.90 now. I think I paid about $19. It should be here by next Tues or Wed. If I had to order one now, I'd get the FT $20 version in the silver box.
     
    I just re-wicked too but the 3rd time. The 2nd wick was still good and the coil was pretty clean after 2 tanks. Getting the wick out almost destroyed the coil though. I noticed the coil was sitting a low so I raised it a bit. It's better but still feel like it's slightly wet but clearing out, I think. I felt like a barber trimming the wick :laugh: I did the patented pinch method before installing the chimney.

    I have one incoming from FC but I'm not too optimistic about it. They have it for $13.90 now. I think I paid about $19. It should be here by next Tues or Wed. If I had to order one now, I'd get the FT $20 version in the silver box.

    The silver box seems to be worth it for sure, we all know if wicked right it will work. I had to unscrew the 510 pin a little and re-tighten then readings on my ohm meter evened out... Not many issues at all, unlike the SR :nah: clone!!! Grrrrrrr, I want one so bad but waiting on a newer release.
     

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    Do the glass tanks from ibtanked fit the clones? ibtanked says 22mm external diameter, I thought it should be 21?

    and is ibtanked the only place for the glass tanks? its the only one I remember reading in the authentic erl thread...which I stopped reading a while ago, I got too far behind and gave up trying to play catch up :(
     
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