Esmoking myths
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There has not been any long term or short term testing to determine if e-smoking is safer. We are pioneers in this field. We really have no idea if we are hurting ourselves or improving our health. We can only go by what we discover ourselves.
It might be safer than tobacco smoking, we don't know, there are no scientific studies or clinical trials to test the effects of esmoking.
We can take in massive doses of nicotine which is a toxin
We don't know what prolonged inhaling of propylene glycol does
ditto glycerine
ditto all the other additives and flavourings in eliquid
We don't know how the cocktail of chemicals we inhale interacts
We don't know the implications of breathing the chemicals given off by the burning coil wick as it degrades
We don't know what type of plastics are used for storage or cartridges and if they leach chemicals into the eliquid
We don't know what chemicals are given off by cartridge fillers when they are heated or burned
So, basically we don't know if esmoking is safe. Lots of us think it is probably safer than smoking tobacco but that's opinion, not science.
When you see the advertising saying esmoking is safe or safer, it's unfounded claims, there is no proof. Ask the seller what is the basis of the statement ... they usually try to fob you off with Ruyan specific research which only applies to Ruyan eliquid.
We can take in massive doses of nicotine which is a toxin
We don't know what prolonged inhaling of propylene glycol does
ditto glycerine
ditto all the other additives and flavourings in eliquid
We don't know how the cocktail of chemicals we inhale interacts
We don't know the implications of breathing the chemicals given off by the burning coil wick as it degrades
We don't know what type of plastics are used for storage or cartridges and if they leach chemicals into the eliquid
We don't know what chemicals are given off by cartridge fillers when they are heated or burned
So, basically we don't know if esmoking is safe. Lots of us think it is probably safer than smoking tobacco but that's opinion, not science.
When you see the advertising saying esmoking is safe or safer, it's unfounded claims, there is no proof. Ask the seller what is the basis of the statement ... they usually try to fob you off with Ruyan specific research which only applies to Ruyan eliquid.
Kate, you've just made me seriously think about going back on to Real Cigarettes. At least i know the Danger's with them. 
Kate, you've just made me seriously think about going back on to Real Cigarettes. At least i know the Danger's with them.
So, you would rather trust a known killer, than an *unknown* which could potentially be much less harmful? Even if ecigs only had a very very very slight fractional advantage to tobacco cigs (for instance 1 less carcinogen) wouldn't you still want to consume 1 less?
Worse case scenario, ecigs cause all the same health issues real cigs do so what would be the point of going back anyways?
Kate, you've just made me seriously think about going back on to Real Cigarettes. At least i know the Danger's with them.
I think you have weigh up the risks, some admittedly unknown, use your common sense and take a gamble. I've decided that, with my risk assessment of available facts coupled with the huge improvement in my health, that e-smoking is an order of magnitude safer than tobacco. Just my assesment
I think people feel better when they stop inhaling smoke. Health risks aside, I would still consider the quality of life with e-cigs and analogs. Cough, taste, lung capacity, ability to smell, getting rid of the nasty tar odour...going back on to Real Cigarettes. At least i know the Danger's with them.
I am afraid something will kill us all sooner or later. But there might be a difference in how we enjoy the waiting.
Maybe i should not post this here but here goes
My Grandfather smoked from the age of 17 on The Somme.
He died at the age of 79 of Liver Disease. (He was an Alcoholic)
My Grandmother who lived and breathed the same smoke filled air
but did not smoke herself or drink died of Bowel Cancer at the Age of 84.
Their son (My father) Smoked from the age of 18 (Capstan Full Strength and Senior Service...Very strong)
He died of Liver Disease at the age of 85. (He was also an Alcoholic)
My Mother who lived and breathed the same smoke filled air and also worked in Ogdens Tobacco Factory in Liverpool (where i grew up)
where most workers smoked as they got Tobacco half price did Not Smoke all her life.
She died at the age of 86 of old age.
Here are four people of my family who have all either smoked directly or smoked second hand smoke for most of their lives.
Tobacco did not kill any of them and they lived long lives.
Statistics tell us how many people die from Cancer or other Smoke related illnesses every year.
Are there any statistics of how many Smokers die every year of non-related Smoke illness ???
my grandfather.. died at the age of 96.. i wouldnt dare hazard a guess as to what from except old age.. he never coughed i do remember that.. he was a heavy smoker untill the age of 76..
my elder brother who was a none smoker only managed 60 years before meeting his maker.. he died of leukemia.. which did kinda dent my faith in genetic family longevity some what..
trog
my elder brother who was a none smoker only managed 60 years before meeting his maker.. he died of leukemia.. which did kinda dent my faith in genetic family longevity some what..
trog
Deewal - your family have been fortunate (your grandfather doubly so for surviving the Somme). I'd not set aside the overwhelming evidence of the harm done by smoking or put too much faith in being genetically immune to the effects of smoking - though there appears genetic predispositions to heart disease and alcoholism.
Although many here are cautious in their approach and don't like e-cigs promoted as being healthier than smokes - they're simply keeping within the limits of what's known. It could be that e-cigs are beneficial to health but there's no scientific evidence of that either.
On a completely unscientific note - I feel A LOT better since quitting the smokes. I figure it reduces stress, is better than ......, replaces hair loss and improves my good looks. Of course, I've no evidence for all this ...
Although many here are cautious in their approach and don't like e-cigs promoted as being healthier than smokes - they're simply keeping within the limits of what's known. It could be that e-cigs are beneficial to health but there's no scientific evidence of that either.
On a completely unscientific note - I feel A LOT better since quitting the smokes
. I figure it reduces stress, is better than ......, replaces hair loss and improves my good looks. Of course, I've no evidence for all this ... Yes. Get smoking rate. Multiply by total deaths in population. Subtract deaths from smoking in population over same year.
I don't know if population data are collected for these things, but you could certainly get sample data.
The statistic most often quoted is that 50 percent of smokers die of a smoking-related illness. Half-empty glass. That means half of all smokers live their full lives without death from smoking-related illness. So, as Kate says, it's a gamble. But look at it another way: Take three bullets and put one alternating in the cylinders of a six-shooter revolver. Snap the chamber in place after spinning it. Put the barrel to your head and pull the trigger. Fifty percent chance the firing pin hits a bullet. Would you do it?
I saw that in a movie once. Except it wasn't a bullet. It was a kiss from a hot redhead. I'd do it if it was a kiss from a hot redhead!
When you're talking about bullets and heads and triggers, it's ALWAYS time to lighten up.
Getting back to myths, how about how all genius journalists have credited whichever seller they;re interviewing as THE inventor? Njoy, Gammucchi, Pillbox, that Japanese company... How many inventors have these things had again?
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