Esmoking myths

[ladybug51]

What is is that you think they are fooling us about?

I went to last site and it took me to e-cig.com/shoppin/shopcontent.asp etc. Scroll down to Info. click certificates. Scroll down to ingredients. It's # 6 - 12/13 that has me concerned about just what it is. They answered my email and gave me an attachment you can tell is a fake and listed more wierd ingredients. I think I'll see if Wiki. can tell me what they are.

 

[SuperStack]

All eliquid has chemicals but although they may sound scary they could be innocent ingredients.

You're right that there is more than propylene glycol, nicotine and water. The flavourings seem to account for a lot of additives.

Yeah, really no different than many foods we cheerfully eat, as far as scary sounding additives are concerned.

The official ingredient list isn't really the concern though, it's the potential for contamination & quality control issues. That's what we fret about, if anything.

 

[Kate]

I agree, what's in it could be another myth. What they tell us and what they do could be different.

 

[ladybug51]

there is no escaping the chinese they are now the worlds factory simple as that.. sad but true..

far tooo many variables in the cooking pot at the moment to be certain of anything.. but from small scale to big scale would mean china..

But don't you care what we might be putting into our lungs could be just as harmful or worse as fags? How much can you do to get those chemicals out of e-liquids made there. I don't have a good feeling about that.

I need to know of e-liquids that are manufactured here, from beginning to end result and I want to know what they use. We have that right. One person on one thread as an answer to what they could do was, "well, we're the real guinea pigs." Nice. Doesn't anyone care enough to reseach what we are inhaling. I HAVE to be careful having a lung condition already. Don't want to add to it. Surely my concerns are understandable.

Comments anyone?

 

[Kate]

How do you suggest we do that research?

 

[ladybug51]

When I brought this up to someone, he said when doing research on the chemical, get into like tested on rats? You know they give rats mass quantities, but after long term vapig, we have had those "mass quantities". And it ain't beer like on Sat. Night Live with Jane Curtain and Dan Ackroid.

 

[sixstring]

You could try to contact Johnson Creek Original Smoke Juice - The Best E-Liquid in the World - Made Right Here in America for a breakdown - It's supposedly made in the US. I don't know how "friendly" they'd be to your request though - it's likely a trade secrect, much like all the sh*t that goes into real cigs...

I Don't know if this has already been tried...

 

[ladybug51]

How do you suggest we do that research?

Starting anywhere. I thought Wiki. first and search the name of the chemical and see. There's also got to be a place to go to that lists the chemicals and how they breakdown in us or rats.

 

[ladybug51]

You could try to contact I don't know how "friendly" they'd be to your request though - it's likely a trade secrect, much like all the sh*t that goes into real cigs...

... ingredients are listed if you go to their site. The Surgeon General or ? made this a must. It shouldn't be treated as a trade secret when you only want to know and they should understand your concerns. If they don't give them then maybe there's different reason than trade secret.

Good idea. I wanted to contact them anyways.

 

[Kate]

Yeah, Johnson Creek have been asked for an ingredient list and promised one but never produced it.

It might be worth trying again.

 

[ladybug51]

Okay, where'd everybody go? Off to other threads for sure. Enough of this, huh. I'm going to keep trying and let you guys know what I can find out. Anyone want to help? I will invite you all that aren't as friends so I can contact you.

Don't mean to dampen your spirits. We all love vaping. It's when I saw those ingedients, I got concerned. Maybe I'm overreacting. I sure don't want this to be true. I like vaping because I like smoking and this keeps me off the fags. Haven't had one since the 9th.

Enough said. I'll move on.

Merry Christmas everyone!

 

[sixstring]

We all go off to respond to other threads, or eat, drink, pee, etc...- It's not like a chat box.

Having said that, I sometimes wear out the refresh icon by over clicking as well

Since you've been vaping exclusively since the 9th, do you feel better, breath easier, etc...

To me and my "naive common sense" mentality, this would indicate that you're doing less harm.

 

[ladybug51]

We all go off to respond to other threads, or eat, drink, pee, etc...- It's not like a chat box.

Having said that, I sometimes wear out the refresh icon by over clicking as well

Since you've been vaping exclusively since the 9th, do you feel better, breath easier, etc...

To me and my "naive common sense" mentality, this would indicate that you're doing less harm.

Speaking of pee, that's up my alley now. If you're still here or around, yes I am breathing better. Are you speaking of my COPD? That's why I had to stop fags. Last prenisone script and getting the e-cigs, I am 'feeling much better.' I don't want to go back to making my lungs worse. Hence my concern about the ingredients. It may or may not be better on my lungs and I want to find out. Like I said, I hope they are okay. I don't want to stop smoking. Just don't want to die. ttyl sixstring
PS: I'm off to see the wizard at Johnson Creek.

 

[Mr.Darcy]

intellicig claim they source their batteries from outside China...

 

[Kate]

Didn't know that Darcy, thanks.

 

[trog100]

You think Trog makes his own pieces? He assembles Chinese made parts. Close enough by my lights.

no he dosnt leaford.. he remanufactures some chinese made parts he makes his own UK made parts its all them assembled into the end product.. the end product can be said to be made in the UK..

so until u know exactly what trog does keep yer rabbit shut... he he

trog

 

[leaford]

no he dosnt leaford.. he remanufactures some chinese made parts he makes his own UK made parts its all them assembled into the end product.. the end product can be said to be made in the UK..

so until u know exactly what trog does keep yer rabbit shut... he he

trog

Sorry, Trog, I didn;t mean to impugn you, just trying to make the point that a product assembled from foreign manufactured parts ought to still count since just about everything is made that way. I was not aware you did so much to remanufacture your parts, nor did I mean to imply anything. You were, I suppose, a poorly suited example. But it was not a slam.

Jeeze, people, not everything is an attackor an argument.

 

[ApOsTle51]

the box for the intelicig is completley manufactured in the UK...how cool is that ....eh...eh...

Leaford, your packin pistols...it makes people nervous

 

[leaford]

Better now?

 

[ApOsTle51]

Better now?

hehe , supposidley safer but apparently not...