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[Itshak]

Todd made a new video. Its more about me and less about esterigon. I dont care much what he said about me but more about esterigon. He said that esterigon has a clever locking mechanism, a great button and a wonderful automatically moving pin but he still doesnt recommend it to anyone. But a mod doesnt have anything else Todd, you liked them all lol

His new argument is that esterigon has a lot of pieces (thats why he doesnt recommend it to everyone), when esterigon has the less by far pieces than any other "side button near atomizer" mod.

This guy is really strange

Can't say enough how sorry I'm that it turn like so.

Todd
I don't think adding all GG forum members to one package (smok surrounded Imeo ...)
Is somthing that you consider proper on objective days,
we are real pepole no less then any outside this forum.

And I very sorry to see u using such a too powerful tool,responding (so calld ) on some things we are not aware
Of them in a way like so,as they were not written in forum publicly any near to the way you refer or suggest in your reasponce!
It's not suit any to go such low And I do insist on asking that you will not keep doing so regarding us in general.

I do think that your original review was wrap wrong with no understandable reason from my point of view,
But that's not make me "smok around Imeo ..." It's just that I have a different opinion then you!
And I will recomend Esterigon to any non GG fan as the best starting GG device outher.
Though I didn't bought Esterigon yet I'm a GG fun boy (the way you put it).
And all this doesn't make me smok around any body ....!!!!!!!!

 

[steliosss]

Todd made a new video. Its more about me and less about esterigon. I dont care much what he said about me but more about esterigon. He said that esterigon has a clever locking mechanism, a great button and a wonderful automatically moving pin but he still doesnt recommend it to anyone. But a mod doesnt have anything else Todd, you liked them all lol

His new argument is that esterigon has a lot of pieces (thats why he doesnt recommend it to everyone), when esterigon has the less by far pieces than any other "side button near atomizer" mod.

This guy is really strange

Shame on him!!
The interesting thing is that we discovered he has also a cow in his room.

 

[soulseek]

I just watched his response and I find one thing quite funny. He makes a big fuss about how these reviews are only his opinion. Yet when he gets bad feedback about it from us (which is yes our own personal opinion) he throws a hissy fit, how ironic!

The name calling was distasteful and if I gave a rat's ... about who the guy is or what he says, I would have been insulted by the "go and talk to real people" phrase he threw out in the end.

 

[zuTma]

Another happy Esterigon user here
Love this little mod. I was sorry it is 21mm mod but when I got it I was stunned how good it looks and how solid it is.
Now I need few 21mm attys but it is worth it
I had zero problems with it and no issues with voltage drop, infact it hits very hard.
Many good thing about the switch and Esterigon has been said so I won't repeat them. Instead I will snap some pics later

 

[Karabas.V]

A great written review from the well known karabas

GG Esterigon

Only going to give a link to your own review GG Esterigon, but noted that it already is ...

Imeo, thank you for what you are doing such interesting and technically competent device. They are always fun to work with when writing reviews!

Link in your message is the last part of the review. To read from the beginning, better to start here: GG Esterigon

This big detailed review of GG Esterigon by Imeo (Golden Greek) in Russian.

You can read through the Google-translator (on the right column of the site).
You can not read, but just look detailed photos ... Many photos

I am stunned by this! I don't know that I ever seen such a beautifully written review, and that's translated! I can only imagine in it's native language. Beautifully laid out, with beautiful and comprehensive photos and details. Just fantastic.
I don't know why this isn't a sticky here
And anywhere else you have permission to use it

RiverNut, you're right, in Russian it reads much better ... I have enough literary experience (used to write books). Also with me is working professional proofreader

My native languages ​​- Russian and Ukrainian. In English - only via Google . I've now started work on the translation into English of my reviews. But it - very slowly. I help friends. But their native language - Russian, too. Because translations obtained "not ideal". But it is clear for English-speaking users.

By the way, friends, maybe lovers of the band products GG there are people with good knowledge of the English language? To transfer profiles were better, it is necessary to read them and corrected the native speaker. I should be grateful for such assistance.

 

[imeothanasis]

no aal. I made it as short as I could so only longer can be done

Imeo, about the adjustable throw button, Can we make it shorter throw? I saw in the video you made it longer but not shorter. Do you have any idea how to make it shorter maybe? (not that it is long by any means, just wondering )

 

[imeothanasis]

I am confused as much as you Martino. I think that the main problem is that he cant admit his mistake. Anyway, I only wanted you to know what Todd did and said on new video, in case you see it and get confused too.

But we can forget the whole thing for one more time

what to say. . and really curious as response, the pieces of which it is composed Esterigon nor are many and not even need anything, just for Vaping Esterigon. Evidently Esterigon is not sympathetic to Todd .. and a Big Battery easy to use, even from this point of view the easiest mod you have ever created. really incomprehensible .. a clear and wrong assessment by a reviewer who does not admit that he had reviewed very well lol

 

[imeothanasis]

great review fright. I am really glad that you, a very old customer and difficult to be satisfied anymore, you finally are. As for the threads on the venting cap, threads are always catching before o-ring. Its only a feeling you have. I dont know why you have it but its only a feeling

Just got my Esterigon today and must say Bravo Imeo another great device. I am enjoying the new features quite a bit. I do think if I can find my o-ring stash I would like to try a smaller o-ring on the bottom cap because while I like it's function I would like it to be slightly easier to thread the bottom cap on. I find that it feels like the o-ring is already making contact before the threads bite so I am constantly double checking that I don't cross thread it. I did feel like a fool when it took me trying to screw my iAtty on it about 6 times before I realized there was no gap but that the air control ring sat just a hair below the top lol.

I do enjoy the completely automatic center pole adjustment that doesn't lengthen the device. I would love to see something similar on the JGG in the future if it is possible.

I also really like the new airflow control and can't also can't wait to see it on the JGG in the future.

The engraving is IMHO beautiful and elegant just the perfect touch for the device.

The button. I really like just about everything about it. I like the throw, the simplicity, style, and imagine will like how simple it is to clean and maintain.

As for the battery adjustment again it is great although battery adjustment IMHO has never been anything I've had to worry about with GG's (well accept maybe for the GGTB if you wanted to use a single 16340 or something wonky like that). Even so I think it is well designed and works great.

As for battery tubes as an 18650 user the coulple 18500's I have (1 aw a couple e-fest and even a old dead trustfire I had laying around) all fit great. My 18650s all work although my longest batteries (Panasonic CGR 18650 nipples) can be a little tough to fit but I got them in.

As for the bottom cap/locking ring again great. I think it looks great and I like the function as well. Again another feature paired with the button would love to see adapted for JGG.

All in all another great GG. I just can't wait to get the new atty to go on it when it comes out. Thanks again Imeo!!

 

[imeothanasis]

karabas always makes fantastic written reviews River. He made reviews like this for Ithaka and Penelope v3 too. Its unbelievable how much time and effort he put on these reviews. Ithaka's review for example was a whole book!!

I am stunned by this! I don't know that I ever seen such a beautifully written review, and that's translated! I can only imagine in it's native language. Beautifully laid out, with beautiful and comprehensive photos and details. Just fantastic.
I don't know why this isn't a sticky here
And anywhere else you have permission to use it

 

[fright88]

No worries Imeo my friend. I have come to trust your work. Esterigon IMHO is a perfect fit for the GG line and only improves it. Not better then your other devices but unique and complimentary at the same time. And I can't wait to get a couple VIR or Proteus electronic addons for both my Esterigon and JGG they will both along with Proteus be my constant vaping arsenal.

 

[imeothanasis]

you dont know how much I agree mon. And I tried to avoid a situation like this. My pms to Todd where almost like this. I was always trying to avoid this situation. So it wasnt my ego. Its the fact that I like things to be done right. And the right thing is that I responded public when Todd made a public video. If Todd had shown me the video in private first then I would have respond privately.
Also, I still donnt offend him even now comparing to what he said and he has already done to me. I am sure that you see that. Todd went too low just because of its ego.

Seeing a popular reviewer and a great moder coming to calling names each other is very sad and I'm sorry about that. That being said, let me be the devil advocate and try to find some positive after all: I think Todd likes estirigon, but both of you had too big ego to accept criticism (gentle reminder: devils advocate speaking).
Both of you could have come to a different outcome if the discussion was more constructive and have a marketing focus rather than technical focus. For example:
- Todd: the device has too many parts for me to recommend it to beginners.
- Imeo: fair enough, but adjustable top and bottom posts do not need to be disassembled by beginners. If you do not take this 2 assemblies, it's a simple mod fully auto- adjustable.
- Todd: you're right. Only problem is mine came too loose. I had to tightly screw it, not all beginners will think of doing that.
- imeo: mmmmmh. I probably need to slightly change my assembly procedure. Rather than asking sellers to assemble the switch, I'll need to have it done and tested professionally. That will increase slightly the price
- Todd: great idea, it would be just as expensive as some other mods, but user friendly, with more features and with better quality check. I guess it would be then advisable to all users.
- gg fanatic: so it's gonna be delayed? For the exact same device?
- Todd and imeo: shut the .......k up !!!

Sorry for the long answer, advocates are talkative

 

[imeothanasis]

I missed the thing "smok around Imeo ..." Its. He said that too? Unbelieveable. Thats what makes really mad right now! He included my customers too on his rant-vent???

Can't say enough how sorry I'm that it turn like so.

Todd
I don't think adding all GG forum members to one package (smok surrounded Imeo ...)
Is somthing that you consider proper on objective days,
we are real pepole no less then any outside this forum.

And I very sorry to see u using such a too powerful tool,responding (so calld ) on some things we are not aware
Of them in a way like so,as they were not written in forum publicly any near to the way you refer or suggest in your reasponce!
It's not suit any to go such low And I do insist on asking that you will not keep doing so regarding us in general.

I do think that your original review was wrap wrong with no understandable reason from my point of view,
But that's not make me "smok around Imeo ..." It's just that I have a different opinion then you!
And I will recomend Esterigon to any non GG fan as the best starting GG device outher.
Though I didn't bought Esterigon yet I'm a GG fun boy (the way you put it).
And all this doesn't make me smok around any body ....!!!!!!!!

 

[Itshak]

I missed the thing "smok around Imeo ..." Its. He said that too? Unbelieveable. Thats what makes really mad rigfht now! He included my customers too on his rant-vent???

I will not repeat this in public!
PM is coming soon.

 

[imeothanasis]

yes, thats the most interesting thing seek. I have to accept any kind of criticism but I/we cant do the same on him. He is above criticism. wow, I am impressed

I just watched his response and I find one thing quite funny. He makes a big fuss about how these reviews are only his opinion. Yet when he gets bad feedback about it from us (which is yes our own personal opinion) he throws a hissy fit, how ironic!

The name calling was distasteful and if I gave a rat's ... about who the guy is or what he says, I would have been insulted by the "go and talk to real people" phrase he threw out in the end.

 

[imeothanasis]

Thank you Zu, I am so glad that another very old member is happy!
Thats what I really want to see and thats why I tried so hard with esterigon. Happy customers.

Another happy Esterigon user here
Love this little mod. I was sorry it is 21mm mod but when I got it I was stunned how good it looks and how solid it is.
Now I need few 21mm attys but it is worth it
I had zero problems with it and no issues with voltage drop, infact it hits very hard.
Many good thing about the switch and Esterigon has been said so I won't repeat them. Instead I will snap some pics later

 

[imeothanasis]

I will not repeat this in public!
PM is coming soon.

Do you know how many things I wanted to say about Todd Its? I wrote a lot of things in a text to my pc. But I thought twice before post it because keeping this issue alive is silly. I feel silly even when I think that I have to fight like a child with Todd. So I will not post anything. We are 45 years old and we have to know better.

Todd wants to continue with this issue and he doesnt really know that ruins his reputation only and not mine.

ps...... Imagine what he would have done if I had really offend him, when the only I asked was only for some proofs of his statements lol

 

[Sad Society]

The Esterigon comes fully assembled. All someone has to do is put in a battery and screw on an atomizer and you are vaping. I can't understand the statement in not so many words saying, "It's not for everyone. Not for beginners. For advanced users only." Now I know that wasn't exactly said, but that is kinda sorta what is being said...I don't want to put words into anybody's mouth.

I can only understand this statement if the Esterigon was shipped to each buyer fully UN-assembled. Each part shipped to you...YOU put it together yourself. This isn't a Lego set we are talking about.

Of course this isn't the case with Esterigon. The only trouble I can see someone having is figuring out the AC ring. But that only takes a second to figure out. And with a high class mod, such as Esterigon, whomever buys one...I'm sure they are going to watch video's, read forums, and want to know all the features before deciding to try it.

Reviews should be about facts about what is being reviewed. Yes, a reviewer can say what the positives and negatives are about a mod, but ultimately it should be up to the watcher to decide. I know a particular popular reviewer who does 'thumbs up, thumbs down' at the end of his videos about what is being reviewed. And he states that these are his opinions. He may say that he doesn't like something about it...such as button placement for example. But he'll then say that's his opinion, and maybe you hold your mod a different way...and maybe you will love the button placement.

Here I go rambling on.

Ultimately, I think a reviewer should state facts, and any open-ended opinions by the reviewer should be stated as so. Such as this post...This is my Opinion.

 

[imeothanasis]

Guys, I have a proposition. Lets forget it once for good. Dont post any more about Todd. He is what he is and nothing will change that. If we continue talking about this issue we will make Todd a worse person, not better.

Lets wait for more people to post their opinions about esterigon. But if old and new members until now do the best comments about it, then I think that we finally made something really unique on mech mods. I knew what I made and I am happy that my customers see that too.

 

[imeothanasis]

I totally agree Sad. And I will answer to you too and then we can stop talking about this issue.

ecf doesnt allow people post on manufacturers's forums bad things about a mod WITHOUT PROOF. The guy that does that gets banned. So we always need proof of what is said, otherwise it seems (and it really is) an attack to the manufacturer. But reviewers are out of this rule up to now, something that has to change. And its more important for reviewers to be very serious persons because a bad post may be not read by all members but a bad video will be seen by a lot of people.

You just cant say whatever comes to your mind because you didnt sleep well last night or because you are angry with your wife.

The Esterigon comes fully assembled. All someone has to do is put in a battery and screw on an atomizer and you are vaping. I can't understand the statement in not so many words saying, "It's not for everyone. Not for beginners. For advanced users only." Now I know that wasn't exactly said, but that is kinda sorta what is being said...I don't want to put words into anybody's mouth.

I can only understand this statement if the Esterigon was shipped to each buyer fully UN-assembled. Each part shipped to you...YOU put it together yourself. This isn't a Lego set we are talking about.

Of course this isn't the case with Esterigon. The only trouble I can see someone having is figuring out the AC ring. But that only takes a second to figure out. And with a high class mod, such as Esterigon, whomever buys one...I'm sure they are going to watch video's, read forums, and want to know all the features before deciding to try it.

Reviews should be about facts about what is being reviewed. Yes, a reviewer can say what the positives and negatives are about a mod, but ultimately it should be up to the watcher to decide. I know a particular popular reviewer who does 'thumbs up, thumbs down' at the end of his videos about what is being reviewed. And he states that these are his opinions. He may say that he doesn't like something about it...such as button placement for example. But he'll then say that's his opinion, and maybe you hold your mod a different way...and maybe you will love the button placement.

Here I go rambling on.

Ultimately, I think a reviewer should state facts, and any open-ended opinions by the reviewer should be stated as so. Such as this post...This is my Opinion.

 

[Itshak]

Do you know how many things I wanted to say about Todd Its? I wrote a lot of things in a text to my pc. But I thought twice before post it because keeping this issue alive is silly. I feel silly even when I think that I have to fight like a child with Todd. So I will not post anything. We are 45 years old and we have to know better.

Todd wants to continue with this issue and he doesnt really know that ruins his reputation only and not mine.

ps...... Imagine what he would have done if I had really offend him, when the only I asked was only for some proves of his statements lol

PM sent.

No need to raise it here or give it a stage any more then it had.
I don't think it's apropiet to our age and stage in life.

Let's take a breath and go back to vapers lifestyle.

Made my self a hot nice Earl Grey tea and put new 1 ohm 28 kantal (need some hit drive for the vape)
on Ithaka update with Minotaur tobaco juice from House of Liquid UK (great stuff).

All is fine,just keep the pictures going guys.