EVO + AW IMR = Whoa...

[Spac]

Could be? I've got one that I finally got working with a small slot. And even then, it's not the same as the old onees I had??!? Up until this last batch, they worked flawlessly, will be ordering some single coils shortly to give them a shot......

Argh! Is this why I can only get one or 2 of these to work on my tanks? I've been trying normal 1.5 and 2.5ohm tank duals, 2.8 sc's... getting fed up with it already. I have 2/4 tanks working and the 2 work very well. The others, in a baggie.

 

[therealcmac]

Time to go tank shopping. What's the best place to buy a good tank from? I have a mini SS Lavatube coming soon too, and God knows that I'm going to end up ordering a Provari whether I like it or not, just to see what all the fuss is about. I'm on the list for Genesis Line V2, but I could be dead by the time I actually get one. So boys and girls....tell me which tank to buy???

Depends what you are looking for.....sounds like you already have a DCT, I would take a look at Phiniac for a cool tank, I will have a look at my custom tank up on my youtube channel in about 30 minutes, take a look at it, they are really nice

 

[therealcmac]

Could be? I've got one that I finally got working with a small slot. And even then, it's not the same as the old onees I had??!? Up until this last batch, they worked flawlessly, will be ordering some single coils shortly to give them a shot......

I got a batch of 5 not too long ago and the first one i slotted and put in my tank sucked, just tasted like filler, it was not good, i have not tried any of the others......I think the quality is the problem

 

[K-man]

Depends what you are looking for.....sounds like you already have a DCT, I would take a look at Phiniac for a cool tank, I will have a look at my custom tank up on my youtube channel in about 30 minutes, take a look at it, they are really nice

I like "easy". Scouring the net I've seen a few that don't use cartos. I think I'd like to find a good one that kinda works like a Stardust. I just think the carto thing will become a pain in the .... Although gotta say I'm loving the DCT. But I find it too easy to spill the liquid by accidentally pulling the tank off of the carto. I've seen the MAP tank, MC tank etc. Trying to study them and figure it out.

 

[mwa102464]

If your sloting them and there flooding, or just not working up to par or getting a burnt taste, I've found on some of the smoketech DC Cartos that this technique works better at times, slot but not all the way through, then a needle and use it to make you hole, 2 of them. Sometimes the 2 smaller holes like this pull liquid in better then bigger holes do with these carto's. more pressure, just a thought if your having issues and wanna try something different just trying to help

 

[Mindfield]

Finally got home to play with the EVO. Both the LR and SR Stardusts suck on it. Dry and burnt taste. But the DCT tanks.....WOW!!!

Thank God I bought some night time 8mg juice cuz I doubt it will be parted from my lips tonight!

Yup. The DCT with a 1.5ohm DCT carto is all I really use on the EVO. I do put other things on it occasionally, but that's my preferred setup and it does me extremely well. Tons of vapor, lots of TH and flavour -- provided I slot with this latest batch.

Time to go tank shopping. What's the best place to buy a good tank from? I have a mini SS Lavatube coming soon too, and God knows that I'm going to end up ordering a Provari whether I like it or not, just to see what all the fuss is about. I'm on the list for Genesis Line V2, but I could be dead by the time I actually get one. So boys and girls....tell me which tank to buy???

I like the simple DCT. If you have not done my hotspring mod (if you have the latest version with the vent holes and at least a tiny bit more room around the batteries), the 4ml DCT with a shorty drip tip works great because you can still fit the cap over top of it for storage/transport. My only complaint about the DCT is that they can break if you have a habit of raising the tank up to let juice in and pushing the tank to the side to give more room for the juice to flow; I already lost one of my 4ml tanks because of that, so I don't do it anymore. However I'm thinking of getting either a Slap Yo Mama or Tank Filler to solve that issue.

Argh! Is this why I can only get one or 2 of these to work on my tanks? I've been trying normal 1.5 and 2.5ohm tank duals, 2.8 sc's... getting fed up with it already. I have 2/4 tanks working and the 2 work very well. The others, in a baggie.

Yup. The latest batch of SmokTech cartos seems to have issues. Their QC has been very dodgy of late. That's why I've been slotting. My previous batch worked perfectly fine -- remarkably even, considering I got two weeks out of one carto with no slotting or fiddling.

I like "easy". Scouring the net I've seen a few that don't use cartos. I think I'd like to find a good one that kinda works like a Stardust. I just think the carto thing will become a pain in the .... Although gotta say I'm loving the DCT. But I find it too easy to spill the liquid by accidentally pulling the tank off of the carto. I've seen the MAP tank, MC tank etc. Trying to study them and figure it out.

Those would be CE2 tanks. I do love CE2s, but with very few exceptions it's hard to get them to work really well and consistently without some form of modification, at least at voltages above the standard 3.7. I've modded Visions and Fluxomizers easily enough so that they work really well at higher voltages, but it's a pain in the ... doing it to each and every one when I'm starting a new clearo. However, rebuildable ones like the Stardust and Stone have significant promise in that they are long-lasting and, if you're of a mind, you can make new wicks and coils for them, which would ultimately result in a more consistent vape and, in the case of the Stone, you'd only have to mod the seal once. (I'm still working on a way to do that in an effective way.)

 

[K-man]

Cool Mindfield. Thanks!
P.S....what do you think of the Torpedo Tank? CE2 style and u can get both it, and the guts at different ohms.

 

[shack22]

In my opinion there is a difference between the cheap Smoktech tanks and a more expensive quality tank.I've got a couple Smoktech's and 2 Big Daddy Vapor tanks--one all stainless steel and one poly with ss caps. The BDV tanks look and work quite a bit better than the Smoktech's(and they sell the "slap your mama" fill tool).Their prices range from $20 for a poly with delrin caps,$31. for a poly with ss caps,$47 for an all ss and $60 for the new all ss with window.I'm planning on picking up a Phiniac soon as they are supposed to be great.The Arry Carto Tank is also on my list but harder to get(they have a unique design "a 510 connection in the bottom for easy install and removal of the cartridge").
Big Daddy Vapor
Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks
Stormy's mods

 

[Mindfield]

Cool Mindfield. Thanks!
P.S....what do you think of the Torpedo Tank? CE2 style and u can get both it, and the guts at different ohms.

Slick, but really expensive, and polycarbonate, so no sour/citrus/cinnamon juices. (The acids and cinnamaldehydes eat polycarbonate and cause it to fog and crack.) I'll be totally honest here: I like CE2s, but they're inconsistent enough for me not to want to spend a gob of money on a CE2-based tank unless I know it either works flawlessly for everyone, or can at least be modded to work flawlessly for everyone. Otherwise I'd stick with a DCT, or perhaps a Phiniac.

 

[therealcmac]

In my opinion there is a difference between the cheap Smoktech tanks and a more expensive quality tank.I've got a couple Smoktech's and 2 Big Daddy Vapor tanks--one all stainless steel and one poly with ss caps. The BDV tanks look and work quite a bit better than the Smoktech's(and they sell the "slap your mama" fill tool).Their prices range from $20 for a poly with delrin caps,$31. for a poly with ss caps,$47 for an all ss and $60 for the new all ss with window.I'm planning on picking up a Phiniac soon as they are supposed to be great.The Arry Carto Tank is also on my list but harder to get(they have a unique design "a 510 connection in the bottom for easy install and removal of the cartridge").
Big Daddy Vapor
Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks
Stormy's mods

While I agree that the more expensive tanks look better, I don't see why they would actually work better? The are just containers for juice yes? I think it comes down to the carto as far as how it works.

 

[Mindfield]

While I agree that the more expensive tanks look better, I don't see why they would actually work better? The are just containers for juice yes? I think it comes down to the carto as far as how it works.

Well, to be fair there are certain considerations to take into account: How well it holds onto the carto, how soft the O-rings are (so you don't slice them up inserting a capless carto), how easy they are to disassemble and reassemble, what material the tube is made of (Pyrex > polypropylene* > polycarbonate*), and of course, how sturdy they are.

* Polypropylene isn't as rigid as polycarbonate, but handles acids and aldehydes better. SmokTech DCTs are polypropylene.

 

[K-man]

While I agree that the more expensive tanks look better, I don't see why they would actually work better? The are just containers for juice yes? I think it comes down to the carto as far as how it works.

Might be a mistake but I'm trying to avoid the use of cartos. Basically I'm looking for a tank for my EVO that'll do the same job as the Stardust did and keep me as happy as the Stardust did. The Vision Stone looks like it should be perfect but all I hear is that they gurgle and leak. So I'm looking for the next step up.

 

[therealcmac]

Well, to be fair there are certain considerations to take into account: How well it holds onto the carto, how soft the O-rings are (so you don't slice them up inserting a capless carto), how easy they are to disassemble and reassemble, what material the tube is made of (Pyrex > polypropylene* > polycarbonate*), and of course, how sturdy they are.

* Polypropylene isn't as rigid as polycarbonate, but handles acids and aldehydes better. SmokTech DCTs are polypropylene.

Well to be even more fair....you are right and I did have some trouble with my phiniac sliding a carto into the caps. On another note I am getting blood tests today and can't have coffee! I need a coffee!!!!! That is all.

 

[therealcmac]

Might be a mistake but I'm trying to avoid the use of cartos. Basically I'm looking for a tank for my EVO that'll do the same job as the Stardust did and keep me as happy as the Stardust did. The Vision Stone looks like it should be perfect but all I hear is that they gurgle and leak. So I'm looking for the next step up.

Ya I hear you, and I did have atot of flooding on my stone tank. I often wonder what kind of amazing things will be available in 2 years from now! All kinds of cool new stuff is out there every day

 

[K-man]

Well to be even more fair....you are right and I did have some trouble with my phiniac sliding a carto into the caps. On another note I am getting blood tests today and can't have coffee! I need a coffee!!!!! That is all.

Could be worse. You could be jonesing for a smoke!
Good luck with the tests!

 

[TrueNorthist]

I figured I'd pipe in here with a few EVO observations after having my first V2 model fail after just three weeks. I bought an extra unit this time so I now have a pair of V3s and both have serious issues. One will not fire the coil if a carto/atty is threaded down fully or even just half way. I have to leave the carto very loose for it to work at all. It worked fine at first but quickly deteriorated and now just barely works so I don't use it anymore -- after less than a day of limited use. The other unit started doing the same thing but I stopped trying to properly thread a carto on it so it still works most times. I just can't use it unless I am sitting still and take extreme care not to snap off the loose carto. The V3 is also not as solid as the V2 and has a number of "fit and finish" deficiencies. The chrome is thin and scratches/wears away very easily and the battery sleeve threads are rough, very short and prone to cross threading even if one uses great care when changing cells. The threads are simply not cut well at all and are far too short. The trigger buttons on both of mine are not lined up properly and look funny and also feel loose and flimsy compared to the V2. Both EVOs emit a new, high pitched whine when the button is pressed that my wife can hear from the other end of the house sometimes.

On the plus side the rough grooves inside the battery sleeve have been smoothed so the risk of a thermal failure is greatly reduced and they have punched two holes in the bottom to protect against explosive failure. The unit also seems more consistent throughout the charge of the batteries with little noticeable drop in performance.

I plan on returning both of these units in the hopes that I can get 2 that work properly, but the other issues will remain until the V4 comes along I guess. And Mindfield is absolutely correct. I have both the generic and the AW cells and the AWs push more current and will singe an LR carto -- especially the smoktechs -- even at low power. Boge LRs work great though if one breaks them in a bit at low power before going to medium. I would sing the praises of these things to the heavens if only they worked properly! When they work they are amazing.

 

[therealcmac]

Geesh, high pitched whining is not good! I have two now and they both work like champs. Sorry to hear you are having issues! Make sure you do get replacements. It is a great little device WHEN it is working

 

[Mindfield]

Definitely shouldn't be whining, though I think the whine could be coming from the LED if they're using ones that have a low refresh (Hz) rate. IT's similar to the high-pitched whine you might have gotten from older CRT monitors or televisions that operated at 50-60Hz. (On my old Atari ST back in the 90s I could hear the pitch of the whine change when an application changed the refresh rate from NTSC (60Hz) to PAL (50Hz).) If that's the case it's harmless, if perhaps annoying.

Of course that doesn't in any way mitigate the other issues.

 

[TrueNorthist]

It is very similar to the sound you describe Eric, but if it was the LEDs it would do it with the carto removed and it doesn't. Could be the carto coil(s) oscillating? If I use a stardust or tank carto the sound is much quieter so it must be the PWM causing it. The electronics are definitely different in the V3. Better than the V2 IMO. Way more consistent regardless of the state of charge and they go longer on a charge. But there is something wrong with the "contact button" and how it is connected to the electronics below. Like I said, they both stop working if the carto is tightened all the way down. My V2 died in a similar way too. Just stopped firing the coil(s).

With the V3 I could live with the dull finish and wonky threads but having to leave the carto loose is unacceptable.

 

[IT_guy]

However I'm thinking of getting either a Slap Yo Mama or Tank Filler to solve that

I came really close to buying a couple slap yo mamas one night then I saw the COV tank tool and thought I could build something like that. I used one of the clear drip tips that comes with a dct tank. I filed one side off and used some kwik plastik from Canadian tire to seal the bottom and create a slide for the juice to flow down. It actually works pretty good.