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I just checked Amazon and there's tone of heat shrink tape listed over there along with marine grade, double layer heat shrink tubing. I've always used Scotch 88 or 33 with excellent results. I used to do a lot of antenna work and always taped up connectors with it. Exposed to rain, heat, cold, ice and sunlight constantly. The tape always held fast and could be removed with no problems.

Yeah that Scotch tape is good stuff, that's what I keep in my tool box too. :)
 

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I paid to have my remote start Clifford installed... Found a deal on Craigslist. I think it was $250? Maybe $300? I can't remember now. But it was like buying the alarm but getting installation free.

The remote says 1 mile distance. I'm sure that's in the most ideal conditions.

I used to install my own stuff... Alarms, radios, etc... Now with arthritis and being fat(ter?) it's too damn hard for me. I did install my alarm before the remote start (lock/unlock/impact sensor.. Very basic) that was in the beginning of the RA for me, now it's tough. To be honest, it's getting tough to build coils now! But I power thru.
 

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I'm teaching 2 of my nieces how to drive

please, make sure those girls learn how to drift off the side and get back on the road without oversteering! i didn't rest till my boy was comfortable with this maneuver! around here, hardly a year goes by without a kid killing himself :(
 

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I paid to have my remote start Clifford installed... Found a deal on Craigslist. I think it was $250? Maybe $300? I can't remember now. But it was like buying the alarm but getting installation free.

The remote says 1 mile distance. I'm sure that's in the most ideal conditions.

I used to install my own stuff... Alarms, radios, etc... Now with arthritis and being fat(ter?) it's too damn hard for me. I did install my alarm before the remote start (lock/unlock/impact sensor.. Very basic) that was in the beginning of the RA for me, now it's tough. To be honest, it's getting tough to build Coils now! But I power thru.
Parts alone were over $300 for my alarm. The same alarm installed started at $600 so I thought I'd save a few bucks and do it better than most installers would.

Yes, mine's rated for "Up to 1 mile" too but it's line of sight with no obstructions. The 3000'+ test was at a park across an open field. I've checked in a city setting up to 1500' and it worked. I mounted the antenna on top of my rear view mirror. DEI makes the brains and accessories for Clifford, Viper, Python, Avital and a few others. I've had a few Clifford alarms installed professionally on my previous vehicles and had to take it back to the installer for loose wiring. Otherwise, they were awesome systems.

please, make sure those girls learn how to drift off the side and get back on the road without oversteering! i didn't rest till my boy was comfortable with this maneuver! around here, hardly a year goes by without a kid killing himself :(
They didn't want to learn from my sister because she yells at them so it wasn't fun. I'm taking one of them to take her permit test (written) tomorrow. The other just needs to practice parallel parking before taking the road test.

I have friends in the BMW car club and they started Street Survival courses for young drivers up to 21 yrs old. I did a lot of track days, autocrosses and car control clinics when I had my M3 so I should be able to teach them a few things ;).
 

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I should be able to teach them a few things ;).

well, make sure running off the side of the road is on the agenda! it should be included in driver's ed and road testing but instead they worry about parking :facepalm:
 

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Parts alone were over $300 for my alarm. The same alarm installed started at $600 so I thought I'd save a few bucks and do it better than most installers would.

Yes, mine's rated for "Up to 1 mile" too but it's line of sight with no obstructions. The 3000'+ test was at a park across an open field. I've checked in a city setting up to 1500' and it worked. I mounted the antenna on top of my rear view mirror. DEI makes the brains and accessories for Clifford, Viper, Python, Avital and a few others. I've had a few Clifford alarms installed professionally on my previous vehicles and had to take it back to the installer for loose wiring. Otherwise, they were awesome systems.


They didn't want to learn from my sister because she yells at them so it wasn't fun. I'm taking one of them to take her permit test (written) tomorrow. The other just needs to practice parallel parking before taking the road test.

I have friends in the BMW car club and they started Street Survival courses for young drivers up to 21 yrs old. I did a lot of track days, autocrosses and car control clinics when I had my M3 so I should be able to teach them a few things ;).

Wow, that course is a great idea! And at only $75, yeah every kid should go through that! That's fantastic! Same here, every year we hear about another kid who lost control and died. Thirty years ago a pickup full of kids going like hell didn't make the turn, slammed head on into a huge tree in front of my grand parents house. Killed the driver instantly, crushed in the cab, threw a couple of them out of the bed and one of them was paralyzed from the neck down. My grand parents heard the crash in the middle of the night, went out to see a horrific scene. The fire dept was just down the road, they and emt's were there within minuets otherwise more would have died.
 

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well, make sure running off the side of the road is on the agenda! it should be included in driver's ed and road testing but instead they worry about parking :facepalm:
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I sent my kid to driving school, cost 600 But saved 25% on his insurance :)
The insurance saving was way more than the cost of the driving school :)
I gave him my old truck, it mite burn a little more gas :( But he's safe in there :)
They already took a driving school course in school. I was surprised to find that NJ has a somewhat graduated license program. I have mixed feelings about it. One thing I'm against is putting a sticker designating "New Driver" on any vehicle that they might be driving in the household. My truck is too big for them so I've been borrowing my mom's '15 Ford Escape and they said it's fun to drive.
 

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We to have a graduated licensing plan now it takes 3 full years to get a G2 witch is a full licence.
For the first 2 years there are plenty of strict regulations. It's a good thing I guess? our maybe just a way for cops to write more tickets? Insurance for a 17 year old is really expensive! I even had to put the old truck (10 silverado) in his name. Just incase, this way it don't affect my insurance rate if he does some thing Stupid! :)
 

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virginia requires 40 hours of driving under parental supervision before they can sign up for driver's ed at the high school! i thought that was the funniest thing i ever heard! :lol:

and the driving log had to be notarized! :lol: :lol:

Your kidding! :facepalm:
 

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Parts alone were over $300 for my alarm. The same alarm installed started at $600 so I thought I'd save a few bucks and do it better than most installers would.

Yes, mine's rated for "Up to 1 mile" too but it's line of sight with no obstructions. The 3000'+ test was at a park across an open field. I've checked in a city setting up to 1500' and it worked. I mounted the antenna on top of my rear view mirror. DEI makes the brains and accessories for Clifford, Viper, Python, Avital and a few others. I've had a few Clifford alarms installed professionally on my previous vehicles and had to take it back to the installer for loose wiring. Otherwise, they were awesome systems.


They didn't want to learn from my sister because she yells at them so it wasn't fun. I'm taking one of them to take her permit test (written) tomorrow. The other just needs to practice parallel parking before taking the road test.

I have friends in the BMW car club and they started Street Survival courses for young drivers up to 21 yrs old. I did a lot of track days, autocrosses and car control clinics when I had my M3 so I should be able to teach them a few things ;).
Yeah, I think DEI makes 90% of alarms? Maybe more? When I got mine places like best buy and independent car stereo places wanted $600 to $1000 to install the very same alarm. When I found this small shop installing them for $300 (or less? It's been years ago I can't remember now) I jumped on it. I got the one with the color screen key fob remote and my son got the b/w screen like the one you linked earlier. I think the "brain" is the same on both. I think the b/w remote was $50 cheaper? (again too long ago for me to accurately remember).

Its been installed for years and (knock on wood) no issues to date.

If anyone has seen "no man's land" the movie with a very young Charlie Sheen and DB Sweeny, where they are Porsche thieves, there's a scene when they look in a potential car to steal and see a Clifford keypad for disarming the alarm and he says "Clifford, too tough" and moves to the next car... LOL [emoji23] I think of that all the time, probably why I got the Clifford branded one all these years later... The guy who installed had all the brands even though they're all the same.

What was that other one the secret service was rumored to have installed back in the early 80s? The ungo box? Or ungo black box? Back when Cincinnati microwave escorts radar detectors were the best - those enormously huge ones with the analog dial and signature amber light.

(wow, I just went down memory lane in my mind!)
 

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I got my Viper about 4 yrs ago and the color screens weren't out yet. I thought about upgrading but didn't think it was worth the hassle. What I liked most was that the remote was rechargeable.

No Man's Land was a great movie! My earliest Clifford had a toggle switch, no keypad but I remember one of my friend's father had the keypad in his car.

I remember the Ungo Box. And I had an Escort and upgraded to a Passport when it came out. I have a V1 now but rarely use it.
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My current setup (V1 next to the rear view mirror)
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And I found a pic of the wiring for my alarm...
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My first alarm was a 15 amp fog light relay and a toggle switch. I put the toggle switch under the hood close to the wiper blade where you could reach under with your finger and switch it on or off. It was simple, wired the door jam switches to the car horn through the relay. Switch on it was live, open the door and the horn blew.
 

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I got my Viper about 4 yrs ago and the color screens weren't out yet. I thought about upgrading but didn't think it was worth the hassle. What I liked most was that the remote was rechargeable.

No Man's Land was a great movie! My earliest Clifford had a toggle switch, no keypad but I remember one of my friend's father had the keypad in his car.

I remember the Ungo Box. And I had an Escort and upgraded to a Passport when it came out. I have a V1 now but rarely use it.
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My current setup (V1 next to the rear view mirror)
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And I found a pic of the wiring for my alarm...
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4 years? I know I've had my alarm longer than 4 years with the color screen. I had 3 years of the smartstart, then renewed 1 year and it's been "disconnected" for at least a year now. I'll have to ask my son or search my emails and see if I have a date of install for mine.

I never personally owned the big escort, I had the passport, and the escort mini but lost the little encryption Keychain thing you to plug in every few months or it would lock you out to prevent theft.

I never got a valentine one, I wanted one but couldn't justify the expense anymore. Beside, I don't know if they even "work" anymore
 

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Maybe I never saw the color until after I got my alarm. I know I installed it spring of '12, 1 yr after I got my truck.

I don't remember the encryption thing for my Escort. I got the V1 when I got my M3, 17 yrs ago. I've upgraded twice and now that I have a truck, it doesn't get used much but it's still hardwired in my truck. I use it when I take my niece to school in Pitt and it helps a little but then again, I don't really speed.
 

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Maybe I never saw the color until after I got my alarm. I know I installed it spring of '12, 1 yr after I got my truck.

I don't remember the encryption thing for my Escort. I got the V1 when I got my M3, 17 yrs ago. I've upgraded twice and now that I have a truck, it doesn't get used much but it's still hardwired in my truck. I use it when I take my niece to school in Pitt and it helps a little but then again, I don't really speed.
I just Google around, it was called the escort dsp. It came with the digital key which was a 3.5mm headphone jack looking Keychain doohickey (technical term, don't even try) which were digital keys that are encrypted and unique to each unit. The idea was every so often the radar detector would lock itself and the only way to unlock it was to power it off, insert the unique headphone jack key thing in the port on the back, turn it on, a few seconds or a minute later the unit would come back to life. If you didn't have the key, the unit was useless. So if it got stolen, they couldn't use it and I suppose Cincinnati microwave wouldn't sell another one unless your were the one registered to that serial number?

Googling I found an article or ad from 1991, so I guess that was the time frame.

I also saw new high end radar detectors are still in the $600 price range!? [emoji23] OMG [emoji44] are you kidding me!? In the era of instant on laser radar they have the nerve to market a device like that with those kinds of prices? Wow.

And I read that most modern cars with Park assist and the ones with those radar dots in their bumpers cause false alarms and whatnot. Wow, I would have assumed radar detectors were like stand alone GPS units. Begging to be bought, I guess not.

Here's a picture I found of the smaller escort I was talking about.

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I got one these somewhere... But have long since lost the digital key.
 

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I just Google around, it was called the escort dsp. It came with the digital key which was a 3.5mm headphone jack looking Keychain doohickey (technical term, don't even try) which were digital keys that are encrypted and unique to each unit. The idea was every so often the radar detector would lock itself and the only way to unlock it was to power it off, insert the unique headphone jack key thing in the port on the back, turn it on, a few seconds or a minute later the unit would come back to life. If you didn't have the key, the unit was useless. So if it got stolen, they couldn't use it and I suppose Cincinnati microwave wouldn't sell another one unless your were the one registered to that serial number?

Googling I found an article or ad from 1991, so I guess that was the time frame.

I also saw new high end radar detectors are still in the $600 price range!? [emoji23] OMG [emoji44] are you kidding me!? In the era of instant on laser radar they have the nerve to market a device like that with those kinds of prices? Wow.

And I read that most modern cars with Park assist and the ones with those radar dots in their bumpers cause false alarms and whatnot. Wow, I would have assumed radar detectors were like stand alone GPS units. Begging to be bought, I guess not.

Here's a picture I found of the smaller escort I was talking about.

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I got one these somewhere... But have long since lost the digital key.
Interesting. I don't remember that. My big Escort was stolen from my car so I replaced it with the Passport.

The new $600+ systems have laser diffuser and some even have jammers (illegal). Not sure how they get around the legality of it but they do. A friend of mine installed the new Passport system ($1700!!!) in his Porsche. Pretty cool system.
 

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