Evolv-ing Thread

[BillW50]

I cant see your logic on this one Bill. I can say for my kids 21 & 18 their never going to Smoke cigarettes, they think it's Gross!

Every study I ever seen shows restrict e-cigarettes, teen smoking increases. EVERY TIME! And everybody thinks smoking is gross! Even BT does. But that isn't the point, now is it? I bet kids thinks beer tastes gross too. But they don't drink it for the taste, now do they?

IMO the juul pods with the high nic were just a way to get the kids addicted/ dependent on Nic! This cap of 20mg is a good thing At any rate even if they keep Juuling better at 20mg than 50!

Sure and they will be smoking cigarettes instead. BT thanks you very much for your support!

 

[CMD-Ky]

I am just glad that the government is stepping up to plate and is protecting all of the yoots from harm and evil.

 

[dwcraig1]

I've got a 20 year old here that has never drank a beer, at least I don't have to worry about him drinking mine.

 

[CMD-Ky]

I've got a 20 year old here that has never drank a beer, at least I don't have to worry about him drinking mine.

You raised that child with the right values, no stealing dad's beer.

 

[Steamer861]

Bill you should be a negotiator, you just keep coming back wearing people down

I'v heard so many stupid things the Goberment wants to do to reduce kids vaping!
This 20mg cap is one of the only things that makes sense to me

 

[CMD-Ky]

Bill you should be a negotiator, you just keep coming back wearing people down

I'v heard so many stupid things the Goberment wants to do to reduce kids vaping!
This 20mg cap is one of the only things that makes sense to me

Why 20 mg as a cap? Why not ten, it is twice as good 20 mg? If the government is going protect the yoots, then I say load 'er up - no half measures when it comes to protecting.

 

[Steamer861]

Why 20 mg as a cap? Why not ten, it is twice as good 20 mg? If the government is going protect the yoots, then I say load 'er up - no half measures when it comes to protecting.

Ok, this is a targeted cap, Smokers trying to quite by vaping routinely vape below 20mgs, Youths vaping pods are vaping at 35 & 50 mg!
Question for you, would you rather see a 20mg cap or an out rite flavour ban, & honestly witch one do you think would be more effective to target Youths, with out negatively affecting people trying to quit smoking.

 

[BillW50]

Bill you should be a negotiator, you just keep coming back wearing people down

I don't mean too,

I just don't understand the logic. Restrict vaping so kids will turn to cigarettes. All studies shows this is true.

I'v heard so many stupid things the Goberment wants to do to reduce kids vaping!
This 20mg cap is one of the only things that makes sense to me

They want to reduce kids vaping? Why? So kids will turn to smoking instead? Because that is exactly what happens. Remember when the government (FDA) tried to help by showing kids videos how nicotine changes your plain boring life by having nic pulsing throughout your veins? And what happened? Kids vaping skyrocketed.

That is exactly what they wanted to happen. Now they could use the excuse to restrict vaping for the sake of kids, so even adults wont be able to get them either. Thus getting kids and adults back on cigarettes. Trust me, they aren't a bunch of incompetent dummies like they pretend to be. They know exactly what they are doing.

By the way, today is the last day New Yorkers can buy flavored e-juices.

 

[Steamer861]

Smoking stats in Canada & the US are on the decline, have been for several years now!
IMO this isn't going to change, the trajectory is down wards
Whats on the up swing is young people vaping! I don't think young people are going to start smoking if they cant vape, just my opinion, maybe I'm wrong?

 

[CMD-Ky]

Ok, this is a targeted cap, Smokers trying to quite by vaping routinely vape below 20mgs, Youths vaping pods are vaping at 35 & 50 mg!
Question for you, would you rather see a 20mg cap or an out rite flavour ban, & honestly witch one do you think would be more effective to target Youths, with out negatively affecting people trying to quit smoking.

To tell you the truth, I would like the government to stay out of it. If the government was serious then it would ban cigarettes and tobacco. It is isn't serious and all these measures are to trick the compliment public into accepting what ever the government does. Then it will collect taxes, nothing more, nothing less. Twenty mg, ten mg - it all just a joke.

 

[BillW50]

Smoking stats in Canada & the US are on the decline, have been for several years now!

They have been on the decline while vaping has increased. Smokers have quit smoking and starting vaping. Why is this a surprise to anybody?

Smoking vs Vaping - Real Stats

IMO this isn't going to change, the trajectory is down wards

Sure it is going to change. Get rid of vaping and smoking goes on the increase once again.

Whats on the up swing is young people vaping! I don't think young people are going to start smoking if they cant vape, just my opinion, maybe I'm wrong?

Kids vaping goes up and smoking among youths goes down. Get rid of vaping and smoking among the youths goes up. This isn't rocket science.

“Epidemic?” A Perspective of Youth Vaping & Tobacco Use Trends - CASAA

 

[dwcraig1]

My Dicodes 2380 will start it's journey to Hawaii tomorrow.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

I would not have been able to make the switch if 20mg was the highest available. 36 was tough enough. I have worked down but plateaued at 18.

 

[BillW50]

I would not have been able to make the switch if 20mg was the highest available. 36 was tough enough. I have worked down but plateaued at 18.

They really should have an awesome rating, so I just gave you an agree.

And I bet BT are betting that 20mg wouldn't be enough to get people to switch to vaping.

 

[tiburonfirst]

 

[dwcraig1]

 

[dwcraig1]

I seem to be working harder than ever towards getting that last new 2019 Ford Taurus (in my area). I have contacted the dealer and removed the freeze on my credit. If I can get 0% financing and a fair amount on my trade I think I'm about done for.
I plan on going to see it in the morning.

 

[BillW50]

 

[dwcraig1]

Last Friday when I came to work everything that was plugged into a rather large UPS had rebooted and the UPS was saying "connect the battery". The batteries are about 8 years old. I ordered new ones, they come paired together, 4 batteries in 2 cartridges. That's two cartridges with a total of four batteries.
Tonight it doing strange stuff. Says 0% battery, then later 100% battery, than it goes back to "connect battery". I hope it just needs batteries and not a new UPS, it's about $1000.
Edit: BTW, I don't think that we even had a power failure that day, if we did it was just a flicker as no one noticed one.

 

[dwcraig1]

A couple of days ago I made a big bowl of banana pudding, knowing how good it can be I used a gallon of pudding in it's creation. It tastes pretty good to me. My son took one taste of it and said "nay" and the wife says it's too sweet. I doubt if I''ll ever make another one.