Evolv-ing Thread

[kiba]

Have you tried locking the ohms in at .45 in escribe? Check the "Ohms Locked" box first then the spot to enter the ohms pops up.

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Yeah I do lock it at .45 but I'd like to change it to a TCR that's correct for this material, it's ss430 but I'm guessing it's a bit off from the unkamen kind

that is a usual and customary practice though - plenty of times i scrounged around on amazon because my total was a penny below what was needed

Yep, I do that all the time, most of the time you need $25 to get free shipping on prime, like all I needed was a tube of thermal paste but I just added a bunch of stuff my gf needed until I got free shipping.

 

[BillW50]

that is a usual and customary practice though - plenty of times i scrounged around on amazon because my total was a penny below what was needed

Whenever I get into a bind like that, I always add some toilet paper to my order.

Oh man! I finally got well enough to travel 20 minutes to the store and buy some coffee beans that I haven't had for a week. Just made a pot. Its fantastic! Gosh I missed you baby!

 

[Squonk_me]

From the site:
Free Shipping
We offer a free shipping method at ecig.com for all domestic orders over $40. When a customer chooses free shipping we ship via the least expensive method possible. Our system will pick the best method for us to use so your package may ship via USPS, FedEx, or UPS depending on cost. Free shipping will never work on international orders or orders to Hawaii and Alaska.

No where is "$40.00 after discounts mentioned.

When the "thank you for your purchase" screen popped up and I saw that the free shipping was not there I immediately sent them a request to cancel the order. My order total "before" discounts was $44.00, and I told them that had I known about the "after discount" thing that I wasn't so stupid that I would not have added some piece of crap to make the limit mark,,,,, if it had been known.

 

[Squonk_me]

At the check out screen I could not click on the free shipping button, I also could NOT click on any other shipping option,,, so I left it blank and hit purchase to see what shipping option would take. That's when I sent the request for cancel order.

 

[tiburonfirst]

let's hope they will accommodate you, squonk - it would be nice and i'm sure you thought you had reached the amount necessary for free shipping but your order came to $39.80, the amount you actually paid. i think you had misgivings all along and you cancelled promptly once you saw what happened.
your best defense, imo, is you were not able to choose shipping and therefore you did not consent to the imposed shipping charge.

 

[cigatron]

It's a clapton, so the resistance gets thrown a bit off, but what I want to know is how to translate that tcr into one that works for .45 instead of the reading .41 bc it's just not vapeable at .41

So NOW it's a different wire manufacture AND a clapton. Is there anything else you would like to share? Just kidding

If your unk wire claptons measured .41 and this new mystery wire measures .45 I'd be looking for a loose connection or a hot spot first. .41 to .45 is like a 9% increase in res. That's a lot. Try winding a new coil from the same wire and see if you still get the same cold res. That'll reveal a lot.

BTW, the clapton wrap wire does not add res to the coil, it lowers the res a tiny amount. Probably not enough change for even a dna to measure.

 

[BillW50]

You know, I never felt safe on a motorcycle You have to share the road with to many unknowns

The biggest complaint I hear is sharing the road with other drivers. Well I solved that problem by living in the county. And there are really no other drivers to speak of. But the one thing that scares me are deer and bear. I hit a deer once at 55MPH on a logging road on a Yamaha 125cc when I was 18 years old. Hit the buck's back broadside flying through the air after flying over a hill. I could see it coming and nothing that I could do about it. Front tire hit his back and the bike did a 360 degree flip in the air. It didn't come back down on the tires, but on it's side and not on the road, but slid into a brush pile.

Worse this is my dad's deer farm and I hit my dad's prized breeding buck. And this is rut season. And maybe you don't know, but this time of the year, semi tame bucks loves a challenge. And they didn't care if you are human or a buck, as long as you're male you are seen as a threat to them. How they knew the difference between male and female humans I'll never know. This was the early 70's (the hippy days) and I've been fooled a time or two between male and female back then. But bucks were really sweet with you if you were a female.

My first thought was I hope the buck is ok and please don't die on me. But second thought was this is my dad's Yamaha and I hope its ok or my dad is going to kill me (the motor wasn't running after the impact). And my third thought (silly me) was I hope I am alright.

So I turned my head to look at the buck. Unbelievable! He's still standing at the exact same spot while hundreds of pounds hitting him broadside at 55MPH didn't make him move an inch. This beast is like hitting a brick wall. I would have bet money that would have at least knocked him over! And he was just staring at me. And I had no idea what that means. I figured it was either he now really respects me and I'm not to be messed with. Or it is now a fight to the death. And I was hoping it wasn't the latter. Because I had nothing to protect myself with. And he is faster and at least 5 times stronger than me. And he is armed with his hooves and huge rack. I won't bet that I would last 5 seconds in a ring with him.

Well he isn't stomping his foot, then lowering his head and charging. So I have a few seconds to think. Can't just walk a 1/4 mile home. He'll probably kill me. And I had no idea how badly I was hurt yet either. Maybe I couldn't even make it by walking. So I figured my only hope is by using the Yamaha. So I pulled it out and the handle bars were bent, a busted turn signal, but I think I can make it back if it runs.

So I hit the starter and it just cranked and never fired. Damn. This bike has a weak battery anyway and if the battery is too low, you can kick start it all day and it will never start. It needs a charged battery. So time to start kick starting and save that weak battery power. Kicked it like 6 times and nothing. Damn! I kept looking back at the buck and he was still staring. He is probably planning on something and it is probably not good.

So I looked to see if everything was set right to run. And I'll be darn. The kill switch got flipped in the crash. I thought it couldn't really be that simple! Flipped it back and gave it one more kick and she's running. Time to kick up some dirt and get out of here.

Got back home and figured I have to face my dad and tell him the truth. Since I survived the buck not killing me, I now have to survive my dad not killing me. So I walked into the house and my dad and little sister was home. I started apologizing for hitting his prized buck and screwing up his motorcycle. Then my dad interrupted me and asked how badly was I hurt?

I was in shock! I did something really stupid and all he cares about is how badly I was hurt! I wasn't planning on that question being asked. And I said I dunno. I guess a little bruised up a little and my left calf kind of hurts a little. So I raised my pants leg up where they could see, but I still couldn't. And my little sister lets out this earth shattering scream and takes off screaming and running throughout the house. My dad grabs a fresh towel and wraps around my leg and told me to get into the car.

After we got into the car I asked what's wrong with everyone? I asked what did you two see? I said it can't be more than a little scratch. He said it is much worse than that. It is cut clear to the bone and my muscles are hanging out. (Gulp)!

Well the hospital patched me up and the doctor told me how lucky I was. As he said it almost cut through a main artery and if that opened, I would have died right then and there.

When I got back home I couldn't even walk on that leg for weeks afterward. The bike only needed a few bucks to repair. And that buck, king of all of the land, never bothered me ever again.

 

[kiba]

not sure but I'd raise the temp and wattage a bit instead.

I tried all that, unless I lock it at.45 ohms, it doesn't get hot enough... I just want to try a better tcr for this material.

 

[kiba]

So NOW it's a different wire manufacture AND a clapton. Is there anything else you would like to share? Just kidding[emoji38]

If your unk wire claptons measured .41 and this new mystery wire measures .45 I'd be looking for a loose connection or a hot spot first. .41 to .45 is like a 9% increase in res. That's a lot. Try winding a new coil from the same wire and see if you still get the same cold res. That'll reveal a lot.

BTW, the clapton wrap wire does not add res to the coil, it lowers the res a tiny amount. Probably not enough change for even a dna to measure.

It's the avs wire, that's just the way it is, it's consistently like that... across the 100+ builds & different mods/atties I've used it in I always have to lock it in about.3 ohms above dead cold. What I want to do is adjust the temp curve to be correct for this material, rather than having to pulsing, unthreading, waiting threading back on until I get the right ohms to lock it at, every time I put in a new coil.

 

[Steamer861]

I hear you Bill
I hit a Moose with a Pickup, one foggy morning. It was a small one (one year old) Still did $11,000.00 damage to the truck.

I had a friend Tbone a Car on an old KZ, back in the day. The nurse driving the Car was late for work & ran a red light!
He got Hurt Bad! When He hit the car the windshield Pilar broke this helmet, when he hit the road he hit his face & destroyed his Jaw.
He had a beard for many years after wards He went thru a really bad time, no fault of his own.
I remember the party he threw when he got his insurance settlement, One wild night!
He also sued "Bell Helmets" & got a huge settlement from them to.

 

[classwife]

The biggest complaint I hear is sharing the road with other drivers. Well I solved that problem by living in the county. And there are really no other drivers to speak of. But the one thing that scares me are deer and bear. I hit a deer once at 55MPH on a logging road on a Yamaha 125cc when I was 18 years old. Hit the buck's back broadside flying through the air after flying over a hill. I could see it coming and nothing that I could do about it. Front tire hit his back and the bike did a 360 degree flip in the air. It didn't come back down on the tires, but on it's side and not on the road, but slid into a brush pile.

Worse this is my dad's deer farm and I hit my dad's prized breeding buck. And this is rut season. And maybe you don't know, but this time of the year, semi tame bucks loves a challenge. And they didn't care if you are human or a buck, as long as you're male you are seen as a threat to them. How they knew the difference between male and female humans I'll never know. This was the early 70's (the hippy days) and I've been fooled a time or two between male and female back then. But bucks were really sweet with you if you were a female.

My first thought was I hope the buck is ok and please don't die on me. But second thought was this is my dad's Yamaha and I hope its ok or my dad is going to kill me (the motor wasn't running after the impact). And my third thought (silly me) was I hope I am alright.

So I turned my head to look at the buck. Unbelievable! He's still standing at the exact same spot while hundreds of pounds hitting him broadside at 55MPH didn't make him move an inch. This beast is like hitting a brick wall. I would have bet money that would have at least knocked him over! And he was just staring at me. And I had no idea what that means. I figured it was either he now really respects me and I'm not to be messed with. Or it is now a fight to the death. And I was hoping it wasn't the latter. Because I had nothing to protect myself with. And he is faster and at least 5 times stronger than me. And he is armed with his hooves and huge rack. I won't bet that I would last 5 seconds in a ring with him.

Well he isn't stomping his foot, then lowering his head and charging. So I have a few seconds to think. Can't just walk a 1/4 mile home. He'll probably kill me. And I had no idea how badly I was hurt yet either. Maybe I couldn't even make it by walking. So I figured my only hope is by using the Yamaha. So I pulled it out and the handle bars were bent, a busted turn signal, but I think I can make it back if it runs.

So I hit the starter and it just cranked and never fired. Damn. This bike has a weak battery anyway and if the battery is too low, you can kick start it all day and it will never start. It needs a charged battery. So time to start kick starting and save that weak battery power. Kicked it like 6 times and nothing. Damn! I kept looking back at the buck and he was still staring. He is probably planning on something and it is probably not good.

So I looked to see if everything was set right to run. And I'll be darn. The kill switch got flipped in the crash. I thought it couldn't really be that simple! Flipped it back and gave it one more kick and she's running. Time to kick up some dirt and get out of here.

Got back home and figured I have to face my dad and tell him the truth. Since I survived the buck not killing me, I now have to survive my dad not killing me. So I walked into the house and my dad and little sister was home. I started apologizing for hitting his prized buck and screwing up his motorcycle. Then my dad interrupted me and asked how badly was I hurt?

I was in shock! I did something really stupid and all he cares about is how badly I was hurt! I wasn't planning on that question being asked. And I said I dunno. I guess a little bruised up a little and my left calf kind of hurts a little. So I raised my pants leg up where they could see, but I still couldn't. And my little sister lets out this earth shattering scream and takes off screaming and running throughout the house. My dad grabs a fresh towel and wraps around my leg and told me to get into the car.

After we got into the car I asked what's wrong with everyone? I asked what did you two see? I said it can't be more than a little scratch. He said it is much worse than that. It is cut clear to the bone and my muscles are hanging out. (Gulp)!

Well the hospital patched me up and the doctor told me how lucky I was. As he said it almost cut through a main artery and if that opened, I would have died right then and there.

When I got back home I couldn't even walk on that leg for weeks afterward. The bike only needed a few bucks to repair. And that buck, king of all of the land, never bothered me ever again.

Wowzer !!!!

 

[cigatron]

It's the avs wire, that's just the way it is, it's consistently like that... across the 100+ builds & different mods/atties I've used it in I always have to lock it in about.3 ohms above dead cold. What I want to do is adjust the temp curve to be correct for this material, rather than having to pulsing, unthreading, waiting threading back on until I get the right ohms to lock it at, every time I put in a new coil.

You can get the tcr very close by doing a boiling water test. Dry burn and rewick the coil, set your temp to 210°f with plenty of power, saturate the wick with water, fire the mod and check to see if it boils the water. If it doesn't keep setting the tcr higher until it does. Don't worry about having a tfr curve, just a straight tcr value.
Tip: Make sure you keep the wick very wet for the test so you can see the water boiling as water will begin to convert to steam before it reaches it's boiling point.

 

[awsum140]

That's why I gave up on AVS wire, mystery metals.

I used to have a Honda 50, keep in mind this was back in the mid 60's. I hit a collie one day, I knew it was there and had "chased" me a few times so I had slowed down to about 40. It ran out right in front of me from behind some evergreens and I hit it right behind the left shoulder. The dog went flying and I, somehow, managed to keep the bike upright and on the road. The dog ran off and I went right up to the house to tell the owners, I felt bad for the dog and them if the dog was seriously injured. Long story short, the dog did limp around for a few days but then was OK, and it never chased another motorcycle.

I did take a spill on it one time. There was a railroad track that cut, diagonally, across an intersection. The front wheel dropped into the gap between the left side of the gap between the rail and the street. I muscled it out only to have it drop right into the right side gap and went flying, sideways, onto the street. I wasn't going very fast, maybe 25 or so. This happened right across the street from the local firehouse and a couple of the guys put down their beers and came running over. The first thing they said was "Is the bike alright?". I had some minor road rash and so did the bike, but nothing serious.

I did graduate to a Honda 250, eventually, and used to ride my buddies three lung Kawasaki quite a bit, but I never really felt comfortable around other traffic on a bike. People were to darn unpredictable behind the wheel even back then.

 

[cigatron]

I never really felt comfortable around other traffic on a bike. People were to darn unpredictable behind the wheel even back then.

Same here, It only took the one near death incident to realize people sometimes don't see motorcycles even when they're looking straight at you. When approaching cars at crossroads I made a deliberate habit of watching their wheels for movement and watching their face to see if they were looking my way. Not good enough. This elderly lady was looking straight at me and her wheels were motionless, right up until it was too late for me to swerve. She pulled out and I had no time so I laid down my CB900f Super Sport and slid under her trunk, across 40ft. of pavement, into a ditch, up over some railroad tracks and the bike ended up on top of me with the exhaust burning my leg. The man behind me saw the whole thing and pulled the bike off me. I still have the burn scar from 33yrs ago. Lesson learned.

 

[Steamer861]

Interesting Build!

 

[kiba]

Alright I'll try the boiling water. One thing I can say for that wire is that it's consistently, or inconsistently .3ohms lower than it should be with my standard build. Oh well, I've got 4 spools of it, need to use it.

 

[Rossum]

I must be a very lucky guy. I managed all this without breaking any bones or creating any scars.

Spoiler

 

[Steamer861]

 

[tiburonfirst]

 

[mikepetro]