Own a Freemax mesh Pro. Wouldn’t say their build is massive. The below picture is the mesh from a triple coil Mesh Pro. The coil beside it is a 2x 28 awg with 40 awg wrap fused Clapton for reference. Not a large coil by any means.
All 3 of these mesh strips do not come close to equalling the mass of the Clapton coil. There is not a lot of wire in those mesh pro coils.
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You have three of them wired in parallel. Kanthal mesh x3 coming out to .15 ohm. They are rated at 80-110W. That means each mesh is .45 ohm rated each at 26-36W x3. That is larger than anything else I have here. My next largest are my Geek Vape Shield tanks running IM1 coils which are single .4 ohm coils rated at 40-60W. And my Triade is telling me my Plus build is only using 45 watts. Looks like out of the 3 tanks, that FreeMax Triple mesh is the clear winner to me. And it also beats the other two in flavor and vapor too. So I wouldn't be selling those triple mesh coils short. They really have something there that others are missing.
LoL, I was just thinking about asking if anyone has tried the My Pillow's and if they really work? Looking above I think the current timing is right "My Pillows" 
Seriously, anyone tried those My Pillows? Are they worth the money? I really need a different pillow, I've tried about everything that can be purchased in stores, the best I've used is what I have now, a Sealy. Down's are much more comfortable for me but they kick in the runny eyes and sniffles.
I may never find one that will help me with my problems but boy I'd sure like too, it is a "real" pain in the neck...
Seriously, anyone tried those My Pillows? Are they worth the money? I really need a different pillow, I've tried about everything that can be purchased in stores, the best I've used is what I have now, a Sealy. Down's are much more comfortable for me but they kick in the runny eyes and sniffles.
I may never find one that will help me with my problems but boy I'd sure like too, it is a "real" pain in the neck...I don't have any SlickWilly, but I know people who do and swear by them.
i'm rather skeptical, willy 
too many bad reviews but then, as bill posted, some are satisfied
too many bad reviews but then, as bill posted, some are satisfied
We have "My Pillows" and I bought a pair for my daughter and SIL. It worked fine for me for the first year, I got the firmest one available for myself, but then it did start to sort of lose its' firmness and I was getting a sore neck. I gave that one to Mrs. Awsum, who had been using the medium firmness model. She seems to like it, a lot, and has tries every kind of pillow out there. My daughter and SIL didn't like them at all. One of the big advantages, though, is that they can be washed and run through the dryer. That does renew them pretty well, but even with that I'm back to a custom goose down pillow my Mom made for me years ago. It has the feathers of three pillows stuffed into one pillow. I like a really firm pillow but getting it into a standard pillow case can be a bit of a struggle. As with everything YMMV.
Along those lines, we also have a Sleep Number bed. It is easily the most comfortable and supportive bed I've ever slept in. It's three years old and doing fine. One of the things that bothers me though is that the pressure, firmness, is effected by the temperature of the air inside the mattress. I noticed that effect because they recommend setting them to "100" during the day and then setting your, personal, sleep number before getting into bed. It's not that big a deal since you can easily adjust the setting to suit yourself every night, and they have an "app" that will track how you sleep. Our problem with that is that it reports everything to Sleep Number and we're both privacy freaks. With the firmness being adjustable it's really easy to get comfortable when my back is giving me trouble.
Along those lines, we also have a Sleep Number bed. It is easily the most comfortable and supportive bed I've ever slept in. It's three years old and doing fine. One of the things that bothers me though is that the pressure, firmness, is effected by the temperature of the air inside the mattress. I noticed that effect because they recommend setting them to "100" during the day and then setting your, personal, sleep number before getting into bed. It's not that big a deal since you can easily adjust the setting to suit yourself every night, and they have an "app" that will track how you sleep. Our problem with that is that it reports everything to Sleep Number and we're both privacy freaks. With the firmness being adjustable it's really easy to get comfortable when my back is giving me trouble.
Yeah those down pillows I tried were just wonderful but they just make me sneeze. I tried putting a liner on one but hated the feel of the liner, that was many years ago. Maybe they make softer liners that would allow me to use a down, I think I'll look into that and see what I come up with.
I've been holding out thinking by now the prices would have come down on those My Pillows but they still are a lot of money for a damn pillow!
It is rated up to 110 watts…like many subohm tanks that is over rated. Have you vaped it at that level? There is only 4 small paper like layers of cotton wrapped once around each mesh strip. At high wattages these will not last long at all. I use my Freemax at around 60 watts.
Resistance for mesh is inherently lower than your typical coil, so it is difficult to compare the 2 strictly on resistance alone. In order to keep the resistance at acceptable levels, Freemax uses a less dense mesh (I refer to it as a chain link fence) that has a higher resistance. The trade off is a reduction in surface area which is one of mesh’s strong points. I subjectively feel that people enjoy the Freemax Triple Mesh coil more than the single is due to the more condensed air flow and not because of the 3 mesh strips. The mesh is less dense, but uses 3 smaller, more condensed air holes rather than a 1 larger hole.
If you enjoy that dense flavour that mesh provides, try a Wotofo Profile RDA. The mesh strip is arced toward the mouth and positioned ~7mm from the top of the cap. With a more condensed airflow I feel this provides a greater vapor to air ratio than the Freemax. Flavour is obviously subjective and can be perceived differently from individual to individual.
Below is the Freemax mesh along with Wotofo (top left) and OFRF (top right) mesh that are used in the Profile RDA. The Vandy Vape SS mesh I own is even denser but didn’t feel like cutting off a strip. Also displayed is the cotton used with the Freemax,
I watched a lot of YT videos on the Profile, Grim Green says that a Clapton coil produces better flavour than the Mesh. What is your opinion? How does the mesh compare to the 4 core Nichrome Clapton coils? Better Or Worse?
Ordered my Plus's from FT on Christmas day, being delivered today. Not bad for Holiday season.
Ordered the single coil decks from SC the same day, got them over a week ago.
Been staring at built up deck for a week now just waiting on an atty to put it in.
Ordered the single coil decks from SC the same day, got them over a week ago.
Been staring at built up deck for a week now just waiting on an atty to put it in.
Still waiting for my second Plus from GB I ordered on the 24th.
First one I ordered from FT back in March.
First one I ordered from FT back in March.
TBH, I have never tried a regular coil in the Profile. The mesh, at least for me, gives such a satisfying vape I have had no urge to try it with a coil. I should give it a shot though. Grim isn’t the first to state he preferred a regular coil over the mesh. The type of vape from mesh is unique, I guess to some this may seem foreign or they just prefer a regular coil. Can’t debate ones preference!
I watched the Grim Green vid – you can tell he is paranoid of dry hits with mesh. The biggest down fall with mesh is that it is absolutely critical there are no voids between the mesh and your wick. Any voids will result in a hot spot which will lead to a dry, burnt hit. Dry hits are not nice with a regular coil….they are brutal with mesh! I also believe this might be the reason some are cautious toward giving mesh a go. But what is unique with the Profile is that it mitigates these voids with a spring loaded pressure plate under the wick. If wicked properly you should not experience any dry hits….assuming of course your wick is well saturated.
Another positive with the Profile is because it uses so much wick, the longevity is so much greater than a regular coil. I have organic cotton in one of my Profiles that is at least over a month old with no signs of burns and or collapsing. I carefully remove the mesh strip after about a week or 2 just to give it a light dry pulse to burn off any of the crusty’s – the wick stays in place so I can easily just clap down the mesh again and continue use. It’s pretty amazing. Just received my first sample of Rayon last week so if cotton last this long, given the longevity claims of Rayon I can imagine how long it will last.
Another downfall with mesh is that it guzzles juice. If I had to guess I’d say my consumption doubled. So anyone looking to give mesh a try should take that into consideration if you are conservative with you juice consumption.
Really enjoy the Profile RDA – own a few of them now and they are put to use with both squonking and dripping. Wouldn’t say they are better than a regular coil, just different. One will have to judge if that difference is of value or not.
Nope, I at first was vaping them at 70 watts, but later dropped that down to 60 watts with the AFC opened by a third.
What really surprised me about the triple mesh was one juice called "RY4 Butterscotch Reserve 6mg". It was one I added to avoid shipping charges last month. Everything else I vaped it with, it just wasn't bad and not very exciting. But then I tried it with those triple mesh and suddenly there was an explosion of intense individual flavors! This is super amazing and I never experienced anything like this with vaping before.
But I have other flavors too. And many of them vape pretty much the same in almost anything. And when I vape them with the triple mesh, nothing much different happens. So I can see people trying mesh and end up not being impressed at all.
What I believe is happening with the RY4 Butterscotch Reserve with the triple mesh, is that the mesh vaporizes the juice at different temperatures all at the same time. This is what some of us who uses temperature control are shooting for. We spike up the temp to say 360F from the get go, then smoothly ramp up to our peak temp.
Thus we scan through all of the temperatures to squeeze out all of the individual flavors. But that's the point, we scan through the temperatures. But the triple mesh isn't scanning. It gives us all of the best temperatures for the individual flavors at every instant.
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