fakes, clones, copies

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I understand the issue of needing to save money, but there are inexpensive mods, even Chinese, that are not trying to be copies. Youde makes inexpensive devices that don't try to come off as copies of existing mods, as one example. Budget is really not an excuse in my opinion. I would rather have an inexpensive mod with it's own personality than a copy of someone else's work.
 

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There is no way anyone will ever stop china from cloning. They copy so much stuff it is unbelievable. Patent don't always work as china still will clone the .... out of it if they know they an get away with it.

It's only if your a big company can you actually stop china from cloning your stuff but whereas your a small company, you first need the means to patent your work then the heavy dough needed to fight the clones.

I know someone who buys nothing but clones coz they say they don't want to spend stupid amounts on something like a battery tube. Me personally, I've never bought a clone and never will because I like owning high end mods that not many can buy and also for the fact that people call me crazy and stupid lol.......I'm all good though :)
 

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The Chinese economy is based on cloning, Rolex (just one example) has spent millions throughout the years trying to stop them with absolutely no effect.
Will people stop buying clones? I seriously doubt it, most will continue buying them as they will continue downloading pirated copies of music/movies and thinking they are saving. In reality this tactic hurts our economies as it takes way jobs.
Sadly people think of themselves and not the common welfare
 

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what a great guy Steve. I didnt know Todd until now. And he said what we all wanted to say in one simple quiet video. Congratulations Todd.

I really want to send the next GG device to him to make a review about it

Although I haven't had the pleasure of meeting Todd I watch his reviews and he seems like a great down to earth guy. I think I couldn't have said what he said any better, great video

Erm.......I don't wanna say anything regarding this as I might end up causing problems so I'll keep my mouth shut. I'm burning inside though
 

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I was talking to Greek seller yesterday and he asked me why China doesnt clone China products.

Oupssss! Nice question. They copy modders but they dont copy each other. Also China doesnt copy the brand names of China products.

What that means to me? It means that Europe, USA and other places are attacked by China. They want to destroy the e-cig market at once and they want to be the only e-cig makers.

Do we have to accept this situation? Are we weaker than them? Maybe less clever? Or simply more lazy?

Some EU-USA stores take advantage of that situation and they make it worse by selling those fakes or clones. This must be stopped too. And of course forums must take a serious action on this. If we put in a black list the stores that sell fakes and forums stop all activity of fakes then we can come back to normal. If not, China will take over this business and all our tries and inventions will be forgotten

The dragon will eat the eagle.


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its not going for years, only for the last year perm. Also there is no "money" issue here. You just cut their publicity and thats all.

If people dont have the money then they have to buy inferior products perm. You cant wear a rolex if you cant afford it. Copying someones work (quality, innovation, advertising) make you a real thief. Not a thief just in papers, it makes you a thief in reality. And because copying became a common thing that doesnt mean that we dont have to stop it.

Think like this: If someone comes to your house and steal your designs of a product that you want to release to the market, isnt the same as cloning? Wouldnt you stop him by shooting him before comes out of the door?

Cloning of products in general has been going on for decades. E cigs specifically still years. And im not saying i agree with it im saying its not something that we can stop. There gonna be around regardless of the publicity because most people dont care. Sure its theft and its not right but morals dont play a huge role in business. And the consumer wants cheap and well built regardless of copying or theft.

And of course i believe what i said about apple its all true lol. There were tablets and smart phones and mp3 players around before any of what apple came out with they just werent as prominent because they werent marketed as much
So they never sold enough to advance as far. None of apples stuff was innovative. And looking at there products and pricing anyone can see how far behind they are with the exception of maybe there computers which your paying 3 times as much for the same hardware you can get elsewhere.

But regardless you can fight boycott demonize try and hide it all you want but its not gonna stop it its just something to accept . This is the way of todays world. Has been for awhile
 
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I have been holding out on buying the Ithaka...the real Ithaka. But now that Imeo has a new base for it I might buy it. I'm more of a
Penelope guy. I keep seeing clones, and with the price point it is tempting. But then I say to myself. It's taking money away from the person that created the original.

Imeo is one of the best in the ecig industry, and he takes the time to personally respond to each of our concerns and questions. That in itself is way better than getting a response from some company who makes clones, looking to make a quick buck from you.

It's sad because I have an over 100 dollar RBA (Penelope) on a 30 dollar ecig. The ecig I use is not a clone. But I'm looking forward for the Proteus.
 
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