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Mactavish

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Guys, I can always catch the demand but I have to know what the demand is so I can make thousands, I dont care and I can do it easily.:):)

Maybe both Lisa and Rob would know better, but what about taking "pre-orders", this way you would get an idea of how many are waiting for the product. Those that pre-order and have to wait, could perhaps be offered a small discount for waiting?

As far as advertising your product, some research would be in order. Are there any E-Cig magazine publications? That would be a lot less expensive then any TV type of advertising even late night commercials. There are already radio ads for the rip-off e-cigs. This is a scam I read about after doing a google search. They say it's FREE, but they get your credit card, and part of the offer is a "subscription" type plan for the "supplies", then send you monthly. I guess the juice and carts, etc. Many have complained they can't stop the orders on their credit cards, and thus are getting rip offed for hundreds. These radio ads are still on the radio.

Obviously TV and radio ads are costly, and you might need a full up factory type run, if the demand and response was good.

I would think the cheapest way to go for now, would be a good product page on your website, the one Lisa is working on, and the main page would be constructed to follow some tips that web designers use to get more google hits.
 
Imeo, I want the GGTS because of the uncompromising quality, durability and unique beauty of the GG brand. The GG is like a Maserati, while the Chinese made products are like a Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi is fine, but I want the best quality. 40 days ago, I did not even know what an e-cigarette was. Already, I wish to purchase a GGTS. Imeo, many people are new e-cigarette users, but they will soon want a better PV than what can be mass produced in China, so they will seek you out and buy the GG brand.

You must have an available supply for Rob and Lisa to sell. When their web sites are sold out of the GG, it forces people to go elsewhere and look at other products such as the Super 6 (Super T Mfg) or the Silver Bullet. I was looking at them last night because I wonder if I will ever be able to order a GGTS. I do not want those products I WANT A GGTS! (yes, I am yelling). There should be pre-order system in place so you have an estimate of how many GGs you will need to make to fulfill demand.
 

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Imeo, I want the GGTS because of the uncompromising quality, durability and unique beauty of the GG brand. The GG is like a Maserati, while the Chinese made products are like a Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi is fine, but I want the best quality. 40 days ago, I did not even know what an e-cigarette was. Already, I wish to purchase a GGTS. Imeo, many people are new e-cigarette users, but they will soon want a better PV than what can be mass produced in China, so they will seek you out and buy the GG brand.

You must have an available supply for Rob and Lisa to sell. When their web sites are sold out of the GG, it forces people to go elsewhere and look at other products such as the Super 6 (Super T Mfg) or the Silver Bullet. I was looking at them last night because I wonder if I will ever be able to order a GGTS. I do not want those products I WANT A GGTS! (yes, I am yelling). There should be pre-order system in place so you have an estimate of how many GGs you will need to make to fulfill demand.

How did you find out about this product the GGTS? This is the info that can help Imeo. How do people find out about his product line at this point in time?
 

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Guys, I can always catch the demand but I have to know what the demand is so I can make thousands, I dont care and I can do it easily.:):)

Imeo don't take this the wrong way because I'm not complaining but why when Rob and Lisa have them in stock are they only available for a couple days to a week? If you have this capability why not send them more so people don't have to wait. I'm not saying a thousand of them but at least a months worth of stock and as they get low send them more. This way their never out of stock and always available.
 

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Maybe both Lisa and Rob would know better, but what about taking "pre-orders", this way you would get an idea of how many are waiting for the product. Those that pre-order and have to wait, could perhaps be offered a small discount for waiting?

As far as advertising your product, some research would be in order. Are there any E-Cig magazine publications? That would be a lot less expensive then any TV type of advertising even late night commercials. There are already radio ads for the rip-off e-cigs. This is a scam I read about after doing a google search. They say it's FREE, but they get your credit card, and part of the offer is a "subscription" type plan for the "supplies", then send you monthly. I guess the juice and carts, etc. Many have complained they can't stop the orders on their credit cards, and thus are getting rip offed for hundreds. These radio ads are still on the radio.

Obviously TV and radio ads are costly, and you might need a full up factory type run, if the demand and response was good.

I would think the cheapest way to go for now, would be a good product page on your website, the one Lisa is working on, and the main page would be constructed to follow some tips that web designers use to get more google hits.

I think you will be quite impressed with the work Lisa is doing on the site right now. If you take a look at her Cloud9 site you will see the attention to detail she takes in her work. The GG site is under construction as we speak and will be an outlet for customers to find the sources and information for the GG. I'm sure she knows what she is doing. These things take time.....
 

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Imeo don't take this the wrong way because I'm not complaining but why when Rob and Lisa have them in stock are they only available for a couple days to a week? If you have this capability why not send them more so people don't have to wait. I'm not saying a thousand of them but at least a months worth of stock and as they get low send them more. This way their never out of stock and always available.

None of us have bottomless pockets and it costs a LOT for Imeo to produce the GG and it costs a LOT for Rob and me to purchase them from him. Added to this, again, the GGTS was a brand new system and the market had to be tested before many tens of thousands of Imeo's own money is spent on an untested, unmarketed product. Even so, Imeo produced (at huge expense) 150 GGTS in the first batch and I believe he has doubled this in the next batch. We're all doing the best we can.

I think you will be quite impressed with the work Lisa is doing on the site right now. If you take a look at her Cloud9 site you will see the attention to detail she takes in her work. The GG site is under construction as we speak and will be an outlet for customers to find the sources and information for the GG. I'm sure she knows what she is doing. These things take time.....

Thanks honey. :wub:
These things do take time and time is something that is in VERY short supply at the moment. Dunno whether people realise that I do absolutely EVERYTHING relating to my business entirely by myself - web-design, accounting, stock ordering, product descriptions, marketing, legal stuff, photography, label and packaging design, stationery design, filling orders, customer service, stock-taking, mailing (the list goes on and on). At this stage, it's just me and so there will be delays to some aspects but I am not complaining, I've run my own IT Consultancy for years, I know what I'm doing and I'm used to hard work. :)

So, when it comes to the GG website, I want to be sure I produce something that lives up to the brand and I am doing it from scratch, not using templates.

I have a holding page up there currently, and this is fine at the moment until I can get the proper site completed. The products are very well-represented here and on both Rob's and my sites and we can't keep up with demand for GGs as it is. :D
 

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Bill, thanks a lot my friend!
Rob and Lisa dont like the preorder system because they have many complains from customers if I delay even a little time to send them. I understand my people but sometimes there are factors that I can control like manufacturing problems or shipping problems.
Imagine my people to wait for GGTS and because of one of those factors they cant have it at time? Very bad thing I believe, maybe worse than if they are out of stock.:):)

Harpo, the reason is that GGTS is a new product so I wanted to see the demand first, so I made only 150. But now I making more so we will not run out of stock.:):)
 
How did you find out about this product the GGTS? This is the info that can help Imeo. How do people find out about his product line at this point in time?

I found out about the GG brand through the ECF forums and youtube. I, like many others, have found that vaping, surprisingly IS a replacement to smoking. When that happens, people start to look for permanent PV equipment that is durable and visually appealing. That is why I have chosen the GG brand. I can't afford a Meserati, but I CAN afford a couple of different GG models.

Advertising is great, but you have to have the items in stock. Otherwise, the good reputation of the product suffers. A good example is the juice box mod, great product, but the reputation has suffered because of the long (almost indefinite) wait times for the product to be delivered (I have one on order and I have no idea when it will arrive). The product must be in hand by many people, who can in turn, do many reviews. That is the best type of advertising, and it's free.

Pre-ordering (a person pays for the GG before it is made) is a good way to gauge how many GGs need to be made, and the needed funds are there to get the ball rolling. But I could be wrong about the logistics of such a plan.
 
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I found out about the GG brand through the ECF forums and youtube. I, like many others, have found that vaping, surprisingly IS a replacement to smoking. When that happens, people start to look for permanent PV equipment that is durable and visually appealing. That is why I have chosen the GG brand. I can't afford a Meserati, but I CAN afford a couple of different GG models.

Advertising is great, but you have to have the items in stock. Otherwise, the good reputation of the product suffers. A good example is the juice box mod, great product, but the reputation has suffered because of the long (almost indefinite) wait times for the product to be delivered (I have one on order and I have no idea when it will arrive). The product must be in hand by many people, who can in turn, do many reviews. That is the best type of advertising, and it's free.

Pre-ordering (a person pays for the GG before it is made) is a good way to gauge how many GGs need to be made, and the needed funds are there to get the ball rolling. But I could be wrong about the logistics of such a plan.

good point friend, I dont disagree but you agree to what I said? I believe that both ways have the good and bad things as a result.
I will discuss this with my sellers and maybe I can follow your advise if they are ok with it. :)
 

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I found out about the GG brand through the ECF forums and youtube. I, like many others, have found that vaping, surprisingly IS a replacement to smoking. When that happens, people start to look for permanent PV equipment that is durable and visually appealing. That is why I have chosen the GG brand. I can't afford a Meserati, but I CAN afford a couple of different GG models.

Advertising is great, but you have to have the items in stock. Otherwise, the good reputation of the product suffers. A good example is the juice box mod, great product, but the reputation has suffered because of the long (almost indefinite) wait times for the product to be delivered (I have one on order and I have no idea when it will arrive). The product must be in hand by many people, who can in turn, do many reviews. That is the best type of advertising, and it's free.

Pre-ordering (a person pays for the GG before it is made) is a good way to gauge how many GGs need to be made, and the needed funds are there to get the ball rolling. But I could be wrong about the logistics of such a plan.

Thanks, I only asked this question to show Imeo, that there are some quick ways to find out how his product is represented "online", and how folks come to find out about it. I'm not involved with the product, just a customer.
Thanks!
 

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My .02 cents......

I think having pre-ordering setup by the GG Sellers is a good thing....and it will help guage demand to a degree. I agree that if its ever possible to have something ALWAYS in-stock thats a GOOD thing...but lets face it, Imeo is one guy and he can only do so much. The way I look at it is, good things sometimes take time...it does pay off in the end.


-Tim
 

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Sorry guys, there is no way I am taking pre-orders for any GG products at least until we have a more regular supply of products of a known design. I think Rob would also agree with me on this one.

I cannot take people's money for something I don't currently have on hand, or something that I don't have an EXACT time scale for or something that may have changed design by the time I have it in my hand.

Trust me, the way things are currently being done is the only way we can bring you these fabulous products (at least for the time being anyway).
 

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Greetings,

I am really new to vaping myself, but I have been doing it long enough now to know that the GGTS is the model that I will be buying if it ever gets back in stock. :p I want one !!!

I just wanted to make a fast comment on the suggestion of pre order. As bad as I want the GGTS I doubt very seriously whether I would even consider a pre order. I can't see myself forking over $212.00 to wait for an unspecified amount of time for my PV.

I see some folks doing that and TBH I just skip right by that web site. I don't even consider it.

Just my 2 cents

Thanks
Jim
 

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I think the GGTS with it's leakage fix is the perfect vaping device. I believe Imeo's efforts should be turned to building the perfect atty's and AFS. These two items are more important and troublesome than constant change to a battery holder. I for one would pay $30 or $40 for an atty that would last 6 months to a year of HV vaping.

Honestly what is possibly left for improvements on the GGST and the Slim. If I know my GGTS is going to be supportable in the coming future I'll more than likely buy another. But as long as I continue to see changes to an already perfect device and the previous model no longer supported i.e. grant and transformer, I'll wait to purchase future products.

Despite what Lisa said I still feel stock on hand could be better or at least only a max of one week waiting period for suppliers to replenish their stock.
 

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Despite what Lisa said I still feel stock on hand could be better or at least only a max of one week waiting period for suppliers to replenish their stock.

I agree with you, constantly having stock on hand would be ideal. I don't like how it looks, to always be out of stock of GG products and I get VERY frustrated that I can't bring stock to my customers, but I cannot buy what isn't made yet and Imeo can't make them any faster than he already is.
 

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Guys, I can always catch the demand but I have to know what the demand is so I can make thousands, I dont care and I can do it easily.:):)

I agree with you, constantly having stock on hand would be ideal. I don't like how it looks, to always be out of stock of GG products and I get VERY frustrated that I can't bring stock to my customers, but I cannot buy what isn't made yet and Imeo can't make them any faster than he already is.

I hear you Lisa but Imeo did say he can make more. I believe the demand is there we just need the products.
 
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