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did you read the whole thread? I'd guess no...
That would probably be tooo stressful for most
I certainly stressed over it and had to go on another shopping spree, this time at Open Source Vapor LLCAt least I learned from my first purchase of liquid and ordered 8 x 15 ml only liquid to sample them and not a 60ml bottle straight away.
That would probably be tooo stressful for most
At least I learned from my first purchase of liquid and ordered 8 x 15 ml only liquid to sample them and not a 60ml bottle straight away.
even 15ml of a liquid you dont like is A LOT.. but you have a better chance of finding something you DO like
Personally I only bought a few flavors online before going B&M crazy..
Well here in the East Bay of San Fran most B&M's (that I found in my short vapor life) tend to concentrate on a different type of vape so I rather use the vast Internet to find what I want in my decision making time. Right now I need to find the strongest flavors available as I can taste nothing.
I still think that the 80PG/20VG liquid has something to do with that. When it happened a few days ago it disappeared after I cut this liquid out. Last night I went back to it and today - no taste, tinnitus, stomach aches so I do think that I am sensitive to the stuff in large quantities but it is early days and it could simply be a coincidence!
I still think that the 80PG/20VG liquid has something to do with that. When it happened a few days ago it disappeared after I cut this liquid out. Last night I went back to it and today - no taste, tinnitus, stomach aches so I do think that I am sensitive to the stuff in large quantities but it is early days and it could simply be a coincidence!
May be PG allergy.
PG does carry more of the flavor through and makes liquid easier to work with.. so many variables with vaping
No taste may be vapers tounge.. happens.. usually doesn't last longer than 2 or 3 days for me.
It is not an allergie as I would have ended up in hospital with an Anaphylactic Shock but right now it appears that I am certainly sensitive to vaping it. I will try again in smaller quantities but not straight away so I learn to differentiate between all the different changes that must be going on inside my body (and mind) right now during the change.
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I just want to clarify this for anyone finding the thread. In this case, as is often the case with B&M's: they are wrong and don't fully understand what they are selling.
The istick will click down under 4V on the screen, but it doesn't actually output under ~4.1V. The electronics have to be able to lower the voltage it gets from the battery. If it can't, it'll just output the ~4V until the battery is so low that what it's getting is 3.7V or such.
Again, it may say 3.3V, or 3.7V -- but it'll always be 4.1V or higher -- and does even weirder things at other voltages. Which is OK if your ohms are higher or your tank needs the extra oomph, but causes problems if you need lower voltages or accuracy at lower voltages.
For reference, you can see it here, at just after 23:20 when he shows the voltage charts (here's where it should be, here's where it is, etc.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W1G7p_fCJw
And there's a post by another member here, along with a chart showing the voltages where it's regulated and where it isn't:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sion/601111-eleaf-istick-11.html#post14200257
With that, I return you to what Caprilli's one-person rendition of Brewster's Millions.
*gives the horns*
Thank you so much for claryfying! It really is a journey and it will take time to learn and also to learn who knows their stuff and who does not. I had a very long conversation with the vendor who sold my latest kit tonight and I told him how frustrating the buying process is for somebody who likes to really understand what they are about to do to themselves.
None of the kits state what juice they would work for and some kits are even difficult to put together as batteries are in one category, chargers in the next. Choices are to be made on coils and again...... No explenation to which once are good for what.
I am glad that I have found this board and you guys are amazing.
Also if it was not for this board, I would still be googling for vendors of juices who actually explain in detail, what they are putting in their juices.
None of the kits state what juice they would work for and some kits are even difficult to put together as batteries are in one category, chargers in the next. Choices are to be made on coils and again...... No explenation to which once are good for what.
I am glad that I have found this board and you guys are amazing.
Also if it was not for this board, I would still be googling for vendors of juices who actually explain in detail, what they are putting in their juices.
A little update after my kit arrived which also poses new questions for me and I hope you guys can help:
Both the Kanger Aerotank Mini with the 650 mAh VV and the Kanger Aerotank Mow Mega with the 1600 mAh VV Battery do me just fine as far as Vapor production and TH go. I do not need more than that all all and probably never will. The longer I vape, the more I like the lack of harshness in comparison to analogue cigarettes or the hic nic/high PG juice that I started off with.
My current favorite juice is the Velvet Cloud Caramel Swirl at 12 mg and I am thinking of stepping down soon. It is advertised as a VG/H2O Juice which is free of PG and vapes just fine in all the ego devices that I have tried. Since my own coil stupidity in the beginning of the journey, none of the coils have broken yet.
Having tried the Airflow/VV devices so far with the 1.5 and 1.8 ohm coils that came with the kit I can say that I very rarely have the batteries set to more than 3.9 V.
The only thing that I have noticed is that the vape is somethimes luke warm but if I go up in voltage, the liquid becomes to harsh for my liking.
Is this due to the lower resistance coils? The tanks? I would really like a warmer vape but with no more throat hit. How can this be improved and what would need to be altered in order to be able to achieve this mild, warm vape?
Thanks in advance Guys.
Both the Kanger Aerotank Mini with the 650 mAh VV and the Kanger Aerotank Mow Mega with the 1600 mAh VV Battery do me just fine as far as Vapor production and TH go. I do not need more than that all all and probably never will. The longer I vape, the more I like the lack of harshness in comparison to analogue cigarettes or the hic nic/high PG juice that I started off with.
My current favorite juice is the Velvet Cloud Caramel Swirl at 12 mg and I am thinking of stepping down soon. It is advertised as a VG/H2O Juice which is free of PG and vapes just fine in all the ego devices that I have tried. Since my own coil stupidity in the beginning of the journey, none of the coils have broken yet.
Having tried the Airflow/VV devices so far with the 1.5 and 1.8 ohm coils that came with the kit I can say that I very rarely have the batteries set to more than 3.9 V.
The only thing that I have noticed is that the vape is somethimes luke warm but if I go up in voltage, the liquid becomes to harsh for my liking.
Is this due to the lower resistance coils? The tanks? I would really like a warmer vape but with no more throat hit. How can this be improved and what would need to be altered in order to be able to achieve this mild, warm vape?
Thanks in advance Guys.
TH is there from PG and Nic.
Lower ohms mean they heat up faster giving you a warmer vape and less warm up time at the same volts as a higher ohm coil.
Higher Ohm coils may be worth a shot.
Lower ohms mean they heat up faster giving you a warmer vape and less warm up time at the same volts as a higher ohm coil.
Higher Ohm coils may be worth a shot.
OK it makes perfect sense to me that a higher resistance coil takes longer to heat but there are a few things that do not make sense.
Current I feel as if the vape is only warmish as opposed to warm but if I up the voltage and it is warmer, it leaves a strange feeling on my tongue.
Would a highter resistance coil with higher voltage solve the issue? Would this provide a smoother vape?
If that is the case are all those guys who are into subohming liking their vape the way I do not? I am just trying to get my head around all of this to understand how I can improve vaping for me.
Current I feel as if the vape is only warmish as opposed to warm but if I up the voltage and it is warmer, it leaves a strange feeling on my tongue.
Would a highter resistance coil with higher voltage solve the issue? Would this provide a smoother vape?
If that is the case are all those guys who are into subohming liking their vape the way I do not? I am just trying to get my head around all of this to understand how I can improve vaping for me.
Im not sure about the strange feeling on your tongue.
One thing about those sub ohm vapers (I'm counted among them) is they are using lower gauge wire, so the heat is not as intense at a centralized location like on the manufactured heads as they use a higher gauge wire (thinner, more resistance for the same length of a higher gauge/thicker wire, which means more heat) There is also larger airflow on those sub ohm builds that keep the coils and vape cooler.
Personally, I enjoyed the lower ohm coils in my clearomizers, and never noticed a funny feeling on my tongue, sorry, not much help there :S Hopefully someone else will come along and speak to that - if not, post a new thread
Thank you so much for your patience! It is difficult to explain once feeling on once tongue 
So if I understand you right, then the subohm coils warm the liquid slower - resulting in smoother vape, that is still warm? Or do you mean that "subohmers" enjoy cold vape?
So if I understand you right, then the subohm coils warm the liquid slower - resulting in smoother vape, that is still warm? Or do you mean that "subohmers" enjoy cold vape?
depends on preference really, you have can make a sub ohm vape hot, or cool just like in a clearomizer. depends on airflow and chamber size, power applied to the coil.
Coils made with less resistant wire heats slower and generally requires more power to get it to heat up, thats why you see 150+w box mods popular with cloud chasers - they can atomize more liquid faster because the coil has more surface area, more surface area means more area for air and juice to be exposed to the coil which results in more vapor. Tighter airflow means the coils don't cool as quickly so you get a hotter vape, hotter coils (by upping the power - wattage) with same airflow means hotter vape. does that make sense? obviously i'm not saying you should (or need to) jump into rebuilding, but you asked a question and I'm doing my best to answer it
I understand about hard to explain a feeling
Coils made with less resistant wire heats slower and generally requires more power to get it to heat up, thats why you see 150+w box mods popular with cloud chasers - they can atomize more liquid faster because the coil has more surface area, more surface area means more area for air and juice to be exposed to the coil which results in more vapor. Tighter airflow means the coils don't cool as quickly so you get a hotter vape, hotter coils (by upping the power - wattage) with same airflow means hotter vape. does that make sense? obviously i'm not saying you should (or need to) jump into rebuilding, but you asked a question and I'm doing my best to answer it
I understand about hard to explain a feeling
Thank you so much. This has helped tons to understand. Does Subohming also create more flavor? This may change but I appear to be ALL about Flavor
Thank you so much. This has helped tons to understand. Does Subohming also create more flavor? This may change but I appear to be ALL about Flavor
Smaller chamber size has more to do with denser flavor. also the drip tip you use can help, as I understand it, a smaller bore drip tip helps produce more flavor. With that, you need less airflow. I think this is why Kayfun's are so popular and widely regarded as having some of the best flavor. The angle at which the airflow hits the coil also seems to make a difference, though I'm not sure how. The Plumveil (RDA) has air coming in from under the coil, in front of the coil, and above the coil, and people raved about that RDA as having phenomenal flavor. The Magma (RDA) has airflow coming from underneath the coil and people regard that as one of the best flavor RDAs. both of those are standard RDA size (22mm in diameter and probably 18mm tall). The Veritas also gets great reviews, but half of the deck on that thing is a big block of metal, so I think that falls under the "Small atomization chamber" category. People building for flavor on those RDAs seem to go single coil, and generally not sub ohm with a higher gauge wire, though not as high as manufactured coils like in the protanks - (28 gauge used in RDAs, 32ga used in manufactured heads). I build mine between 1.2 and 1.6. The airflow is larger than on a protank or equivalent. All of this is based on experience and what I have read - nothing with concrete scientific evidence, so I could be way off point
Well sometimes experience makes up for the lack and shortcoming in science............ as a matter of fact the more I get to know about scientific studies, the more I realize how much room for error they provide. When the two come together - experience and science, you have something really good but it is rare.
Your comments have helped me tons to adjust my kit and NOW, I am getting the vape that I want. I still do not see me as a coil wrapper or a dripper but it is early days.I opened all the air-vents, used the replacements coils that I ordered with the two large wholes (as opposed to the small once that where in the tank when it was delivered) and then I was able to up the voltage without that horrible feeling on my tongue!!! Thank you.
Your comments have helped me tons to adjust my kit and NOW, I am getting the vape that I want. I still do not see me as a coil wrapper or a dripper but it is early days.I opened all the air-vents, used the replacements coils that I ordered with the two large wholes (as opposed to the small once that where in the tank when it was delivered) and then I was able to up the voltage without that horrible feeling on my tongue!!! Thank you.
I will repeat myself.
If you spend a lot of time infront of a computer vaping the charge while you vape feature is fantastic.
Highly recommend a Innokin MVP20W.
Love the ones I have.
Sound like a broken record?
I dont mind.
Eric
If you spend a lot of time infront of a computer vaping the charge while you vape feature is fantastic.
Highly recommend a Innokin MVP20W.
Love the ones I have.
Sound like a broken record?
I dont mind.
Eric
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Eric I do not mind at all. Right now I am pretty happy with the Kanger EMow Mega and my small 14 mm VV Batteries as a handbag and backup kit. What I have been looking at is the Delta 19 as a second tank to the Aerotank Mow Mega and the eCom Supreme (not the eVic) as a Battery.
I can buy the tank now for my 19 mm 1600 mAh VV battery and use it fine but could upgrade this one to triple, subohm coils, giving me the chance to test the waters without investing tons more. I realize that the MVP is tried and tested but I still cannot get my head around a box mod.
Anyway, the battery can wait until I have sold on all the extra kit, that I ordered during my first moment of panic.Now that I have kit and spare kit here, I can relax a bit more and spend more time learning.
You guys have been great and this has certainly turned into a journey. It has only been 10 days and I have not touched a single cigarette, nor did I want one after the first three days! As a matter of fact I prefer vaping to smoking already.
I can buy the tank now for my 19 mm 1600 mAh VV battery and use it fine but could upgrade this one to triple, subohm coils, giving me the chance to test the waters without investing tons more. I realize that the MVP is tried and tested but I still cannot get my head around a box mod.
Anyway, the battery can wait until I have sold on all the extra kit, that I ordered during my first moment of panic.Now that I have kit and spare kit here, I can relax a bit more and spend more time learning.
You guys have been great and this has certainly turned into a journey. It has only been 10 days and I have not touched a single cigarette, nor did I want one after the first three days! As a matter of fact I prefer vaping to smoking already.
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