fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

[NamVet68]

Thx for the heads up, Nam.

Maybe we need to query vendors first where they're getting them from before buying.

Who is QC? I ordered mine from Exhale Vapors. One of the few that have the RSST and ship to Canada.

Please post the vendor's name so others don't get tripped up buying from them, since I'm sure not all vendors look elsewhere than smok.

...

QC=Quality Control.

I got them from Litecig ...both the original, and this one also...but they are very different attys.. I don't want to bad-mouth Litecig - I've always had good dealings with them, and as I said - I probably should have just sent this one back. It works OK - as well as the first one I got.
For the money, it's still a decent rba, just not as well-made as the first one.

 

[Elias]

But some Chinese manufacturers take QC and Quick Count

 

[DeadPerfect]

you know i bought a drip tip some months back, it the same exact tip that came with my rsst. these are quality tips, all ss mings, i think i spent 15 dollars on the one i bought, so its a nice touch for sure. the only issue i have with mine is the top cap fit, you nkow there are 2 o-rings, the black one you see and a very small clear one underneath. my problem is that with both on my top cap is super hard to snap on, and with the smaller oring removed it is to loose. for now i removed the smaller one until i can find a better size oring. once this issue is resolved it will be a perfect atty for the money.

lol, perfect atty for the money... thats why you tried to trade yours for my origional aga-t, and when i didnt like it because it has multiple issues, and sent it back, you been cussing me out all week in pm's. beware of this dude vapediver, he may act all nice on the forum, but in pm's, he's a real punk.

a little over a week ago, i mentioned im going to buy an rsst, cuz i dont like my aga-t cuz i think its ugly. he then asked if i wanted to trade for his rsst with a cracked bushel. i said i may, but would like to try out the rsst first, cuz my aga is the only atty i got. he says no problem, if i dont like it, send it back. now, i was all but sure i was going to trade, but when i finally got the rsst (after he lied about mailing it), i tested it and found too many issues; air hole too big (no throat hit), didnt fit my provari right, juice collects inside and builds up, regular drip tips are so loose they fall out, etc, i told him i dont want to trade. he then pulled a hissy fit and for over a week been cussing me out through pm's. i actually mailed back his rsst the same night i tested it, and he had the nerve to once again cuss me out when he got it back fast! the dude even said "im lucky i dont live near him!" he wants to beat me up cuz i didnt want to trade!! lol, hes all but hurt cuz i didnt want to trade my superior atty for his junk he tried to pawn off on me. this dude got serious issues, so be aware if you try to make a trade with him. if its not a straight up trade, and you dont like what hes trying to pawn off on you, he will pull a tantrum on you and never stop.

Hey vapdivrr... YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED.

 

[gdeal]

FC-2000 Slotted vs. Round Show Down - Results

Ok, I have the slotted version broken in. They both vape well, with some slight differences. The only preferred benefit of the channel is that it is 1/2 pull faster to produce vapor from a cold start. Probably due to the exposed wire heating and reaching vape temp faster. The trade off here is increase throat hit from the wire. The round wick vapes perfectly smooth, with a slight TH from the Nic in the juice. The slotted wick while not bad, has a tinge of the harsher TH you get with a loose coil.

The other benefit of the slotted wick depends upon your wick hole. You need space around the wick in the wick hole for optimal juice delivery. So the choice is either a looser fitting round wick or a tight fitting slotted wick. Same effect. So for example, a 1/8 slotted wick may perform the same as 7/64 round wick in a 1/8 hole. You get the point.

Obviously the slotted wick has less overall mass, so their is less heat sink, etc...but I did not see any loss of juice delivery with less mass, so the theory that ceramic carries additional juice on the outside surface area makes sense.

I tested these side by side at 10, 12 and 14 watts on a Provari and Sigelei Z-max. I switch the attys back and forth, to eliminate any PV related factors.

So with these two atties set up with 30g at 1.4/1.5 ohms, I think the slotted wick has a slight edge really only because of the faster start-up time. The wire gap hot spot issue is not as significant as I thought it would be (It may be for others). (A more optimal set-up for round ceramic would be to have a clear .3-5mm of space between the wick and wick hole, Mine was tighter.

One final note: When I compare both of these to a 3/32" round ceramic with ribbon on the Cobra at ~.9ohm, they both are inferior by a wide margin. However, this is not really a fair comparison because of the different setups. Just my Hope this helps.

 

[DSmooch]

buddy Dead, vap was ready split and send me some wicks overseas without even me ever asking for it, I highly doubt you been exposing anyone but yourself in more than one occasion...

 

[Elias]

buddy Dead, vap was ready split and send me some wicks overseas without even me ever asking for it, I highly doubt you been exposing anyone but yourself in more than one occasion...

agree and by the looks of things shown by the lack of response by others I think most feel the way we do...

People have had disagreements with each other since the dawn of time, I wont pick sides like some sort of school play ground game.

Really what one person says to another in PM is none of my business, all I ask is that it is not made my business, to add to this what one person says to another in private really has 0 bearing on what I think of someone.


Heck if you guys only could see some PM's I have had with some women....

Lets lighten up and continue on... I hate conflict....

Elias

 

[Elias]

FC-2000 Slotted vs. Round Show Down - Results

Ok, I have the slotted version broken in. They both vape well, with some slight differences. The only preferred benefit of the channel is that it is 1/2 pull faster to produce vapor from a cold start. Probably due to the exposed wire heating and reaching vape temp faster. The trade off here is increase throat hit from the wire. The round wick vapes perfectly smooth, with a slight TH from the Nic in the juice. The slotted wick while not bad, has a tinge of the harsher TH you get with a loose coil.

The other benefit of the slotted wick depends upon your wick hole. You need space around the wick in the wick hole for optimal juice delivery. So the choice is either a looser fitting round wick or a tight fitting slotted wick. Same effect. So for example, a 1/8 slotted wick may perform the same as 7/64 round wick in a 1/8 hole. You get the point.

Obviously the slotted wick has less overall mass, so their is less heat sink, etc...but I did not see any loss of juice delivery with less mass, so the theory that ceramic carries additional juice on the outside surface area makes sense.

I tested these side by side at 10, 12 and 14 watts on a Provari and Sigelei Z-max. I switch the attys back and forth, to eliminate any PV related factors.

So with these two atties set up with 30g at 1.4/1.5 ohms, I think the slotted wick has a slight edge really only because of the faster start-up time. The wire gap hot spot issue is not as significant as I thought it would be (It may be for others). (A more optimal set-up for round ceramic would be to have a clear .3-5mm of space between the wick and wick hole, Mine was tighter.

One final note: When I compare both of these to a 3/32" round ceramic with ribbon on the Cobra at ~.9ohm, they both are inferior by a wide margin. However, this is not really a fair comparison because of the different setups. Just my Hope this helps.

Thanks for the detailed testing results and comparisons, I personally prefer the mildest throat effect, any little tiny amount of harshness is a no go for me, most people like that effect though, very few prefer the 0 throat hit, mellow effect.

 

[vapdivrr]

hey dead perfect, this is not the place to post the fact that you took my atty on a trade, ruined it, and sent it back. please pm me with your ridiculous accusations, it doesnt belong here, unbelievable!

 

[SteveW]

This thread has been a gem. Hate to see it ruined now. As with the sentiments above, what happens in PMs stays in PMs.

Gdeal, glad I got a good stock of the 3/32" before they went. Put one in a G Bell yesterday and when I first coiled it it came up as 1.2 ohms with 30g. Resistance dropped to 1.1 after a while and moved it to a mechanical. It is working flawlessly. Love the way the thinner wicks warm up so quickly.

 

[gdeal]

Thanks for the detailed testing results and comparisons, I personally prefer the mildest throat effect, any little tiny amount of harshness is a no go for me, most people like that effect though, very few prefer the 0 throat hit, mellow effect.

That's actually one of the tests I do to see how well a coil is initially setup. I have a bottle of 90% VG/10% H2O with no nic. If I get zero TH from that ejuice. I know the coil is good to go. That said, the channeled ceramic was not really that off. It was noticeable in the side by side comparison, but on its own with nic juice, it really was not that significant or harsh like a hot spot can get, it just felt a bit hotter.

I also prefer my TH to be solely from nic, which is proly the reason why I cant get below 6mg...If the coil is set up right, I get more of a throat tingle with pure smoothness from the VG.

 

[vapdivrr]

awesome gdeal, thanks for the time to make these comparisons. the comparisons that i had made was 28g and .7Ω, but seem similar in results. the faster hit is something that i noticed also. one thing i am seeing now that this set up has been in for a while is that the slotted gunks up alot. i seem to have to dry burn everu other day, with the round hardly once a week. hey you guys, you know i try my hardest to help people as much as i can with all this stuff, and am an honest guy, sorry about this nonsense about the swap, didnt think for one minute he would post anything about it here.

 

[SteveW]

Hey Vap, in my estimation, you have been nothing but a gentleman on this forum and generous to a T with sharing of information and resources. We all owe you a debt of gratitude for everything that has been accomplished in here.

 

[vapdivrr]

talking about TH, i often see people saying that a LR coil is hotter and has more TH then a HR coil. with ceramic what do you guys feel? which would you guys feel would produce a hotter, more TH kind of vape, a 28g 1 ohm coil at 3.7v or a 32g 2.0 ohm coil at 5.2v

 

[FrogHat]

Hey Vap, in my estimation, you have been nothing but a gentleman on this forum and generous to a T with sharing of information and resources. We all owe you a debt of gratitude for everything that has been accomplished in here.

+1 don't sweat the little things in life.

 

[vapdivrr]

Hey Vap, in my estimation, you have been nothing but a gentleman on this forum and generous to a T with sharing of information and resources. We all owe you a debt of gratitude for everything that has been accomplished in here.

i appreciate that alot, thanks

 

[gdeal]

awesome gdeal, thanks for the time to make these comparisons. the comparisons that i had made was 28g and .7Ω, but seem similar in results. the faster hit is something that i noticed also. one thing i am seeing now that this set up has been in for a while is that the slotted gunks up alot. i seem to have to dry burn everu other day, with the round hardly once a week. hey you guys, you know i try my hardest to help people as much as i can with all this stuff, and am an honest guy, sorry about this nonsense about the swap, didnt think for one minute he would post anything about it here.

Sorta make sense that more gunk builds on the hotter part of the wire. BTW, I gotta agree with SteveW, "what happens in PMs should stay in PMs". I hope you guys work this out...off-line of course.

 

[Hello World]

talking about TH, i often see people saying that a LR coil is hotter and has more TH then a HR coil. with ceramic what do you guys feel? which would you guys feel would produce a hotter, more TH kind of vape, a 28g 1 ohm coil at 3.7v or a 32g 2.0 ohm coil at 5.2v

I don't like the "hot" vape at real low resistances, so I don't notice the nic.

28ga. at 1.2 - 1.4 ohms is good for me, and of course the 1.2 kicks up a bit more nic for TH, but I vape fast because I like the taste a little cooler.

32ga at 2.0 has no volume (E-cig Lite), you can suck back 5 vapes to get the same from a 28ga, 1.2ohm.

 

[vapdivrr]

I don't like the "hot" vape at real low resistances, so I don't notice the nic.

28ga. at 1.2 - 1.4 ohms is good for me, and of course the 1.2 kicks up a bit more nic for TH, but I vape fast because I like the taste a little cooler.

32ga at 2.0 has no volume (E-cig Lite), you can suck back 5 vapes to get the same from a 28ga, 1.2ohm.

i agree on the volume, is it just me but whenever i have tried the higher example i have found the vapor to be slightly darker, when vaping coils around 1Ω the vapor seems a little whiter.

 

[zygote]

awesome gdeal, thanks for the time to make these comparisons. the comparisons that i had made was 28g and .7Ω, but seem similar in results. the faster hit is something that i noticed also. one thing i am seeing now that this set up has been in for a while is that the slotted gunks up alot. i seem to have to dry burn everu other day, with the round hardly once a week. hey you guys, you know i try my hardest to help people as much as i can with all this stuff, and am an honest guy, sorry about this nonsense about the swap, didnt think for one minute he would post anything about it here.

Don't worry about it, you guys will get sorted eventually. Great thread Vap. let's keep on keepin on.

 

[Railrust]

FC-2000 Slotted vs. Round Show Down - Results

Ok, I have the slotted version broken in. They both vape well, with some slight differences. The only preferred benefit of the channel is that it is 1/2 pull faster to produce vapor from a cold start. Probably due to the exposed wire heating and reaching vape temp faster. The trade off here is increase throat hit from the wire. The round wick vapes perfectly smooth, with a slight TH from the Nic in the juice. The slotted wick while not bad, has a tinge of the harsher TH you get with a loose coil.

The other benefit of the slotted wick depends upon your wick hole. You need space around the wick in the wick hole for optimal juice delivery. So the choice is either a looser fitting round wick or a tight fitting slotted wick. Same effect. So for example, a 1/8 slotted wick may perform the same as 7/64 round wick in a 1/8 hole. You get the point.

Obviously the slotted wick has less overall mass, so their is less heat sink, etc...but I did not see any loss of juice delivery with less mass, so the theory that ceramic carries additional juice on the outside surface area makes sense.

I tested these side by side at 10, 12 and 14 watts on a Provari and Sigelei Z-max. I switch the attys back and forth, to eliminate any PV related factors.

So with these two atties set up with 30g at 1.4/1.5 ohms, I think the slotted wick has a slight edge really only because of the faster start-up time. The wire gap hot spot issue is not as significant as I thought it would be (It may be for others). (A more optimal set-up for round ceramic would be to have a clear .3-5mm of space between the wick and wick hole, Mine was tighter.

One final note: When I compare both of these to a 3/32" round ceramic with ribbon on the Cobra at ~.9ohm, they both are inferior by a wide margin. However, this is not really a fair comparison because of the different setups. Just my Hope this helps.

Im VERY satisfied with 30G 1.3 without hot wrapping. I don't think I can take more smoke without chocking to death. Man how good do we have to be before blowing my throat out the back of my head!!!! I have not tried ribbon on it yet. Im afraid to. You guys have the science down!!