fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

[vapdivrr]

It's a sleeve. But the inside diameter can be expanded, sort of like those Chinese handcuffs we had when we were kids. People that are using it are putting a short piece over the ss wicks, just on the part above the deck, where the coil will be. It insulates the ss from being in contact with the coil.

and it is ceramic? wonder how the taste compares to the ceramic wick. so i would imagine that you sleeve a piece over the ss wick and flame it to grab? then coil on top. i have heard some good things about it, the only sort of negative is that it gums up very fast, but it can be dry burned with no problems. i have heard you say that you have a piece but havent tried it yet, give it a go and let us know what you think.

 

[vapdivrr]

if a 4/5 wrap of .7mm brings you to ~1.3, looks like I will need the .8mm.
precious info. thanks a lot.

thats what i am thinking dsmooch, i have wanted to try it also, because it looks so sweet when coiled, and probably works nice if you can get some good contact.

 

[SteveW]

if a 4/5 wrap of .7mm brings you to ~1.3, looks like I will need the .8mm.
precious info. thanks a lot.

0.8 (almost 1mm) is going to give some amazing coverage. Would love to see a shot of this size kanthal snaking up the wick. I am imagining a barber's pole in silver and grey.

 

[vapdivrr]

My latest update on the diy fishwick. Received the 28g kanthal and rigged up a 4/3, 1 ohm coil (with the cotton thread wrap) on the aga-t2/ST telescope. Decided to use the cotton with idea that it would help alleviate hot coils. I had to go easy on it at the start but stuck with it throughout the day and as this setup has broken in, it is really performing well. Rockin some thick fluffy plumes with excellent flavor - and no juice darkening so far. I remain completely sold on the ceramic.

at of all the gauges on ceramic, the 28g seems to take the longest to break in, even with the thread. i guess because it has more surface area to get filled up. my current 28g set-up is now on day 3, and i still think its getting better. that is a good description of the low res vapor/ fluffy and thick, but warm, not hot.

 

[Stringer63]

at of all the gauges on ceramic, the 28g seems to take the longest to break in, even with the thread. i guess because it has more surface area to get filled up. my current 28g set-up is now on day 3, and i still think its getting better. that is a good description of the low res vapor/ fluffy and thick, but warm, not hot.

Patience is the key here, but well worth the wait!

 

[vapdivrr]

Patience is the key here, but well worth the wait!

yes sir, so your big on bass fishing

 

[Stringer63]

yes sir, so your big on bass fishing

Oh yea, but unlike you lucky folks in FL, we have to brave the big freeze here in KY to fish all year. Working for that trophy bass is almost like finding the perfect vape - can be ellusive for sure. The hunt sure is fun though!

 

[martin777]

That sounds like a great idea Rule62. Where can we get this?

Nextel Braided Ceramic Very High Temperature and XS Silica Sleeving

 

[Elias]

Nextel Braided Ceramic Very High Temperature and XS Silica Sleeving

it's Non-Hygroscopic I would say that it's not good for wicking? anyone else got a view on this? I thought we would need high-hygroscopic the ability to attract and take on water molecules ?

I dont know but at a guess I would say no good...

 

[ericska]

Wow... I think I fall in love with Kanthal A1 30g wire....

 

[Vito Capone]

That sounds like a great idea Rule62. Where can we get this?

I didn't see a response to this yet (I may still be asleep though) I know you can buy direct from Omega, not sure if they have a length requirement. SNG Vapor is also carrying in 1' lengths for $6 bucks.

 

[ricks]

Thanks, Do you know what size the one from SNG Vapor is?

I didn't see a response to this yet (I may still be asleep though) I know you can buy direct from Omega, not sure if they have a length requirement. SNG Vapor is also carrying in 1' lenghts for $6 bucks.

 

[Vito Capone]

Thanks, Do you know what size the one from SNG Vapor is?

They have the 116 I haven't seen anyone that is doing the 118 online yet but haven't looked recently.

 

[Rule62]

I fooled around with the Nextel for a few minutes yesterday. My impression is mixed. With the xc116, after torching a section to cherry red, I opened it enough, using a small phillips screwdriver from a mini screwdriver set, and swaged the inside out enough to slip a 3/32" wick inside it. I only sleeved the part of the wick that would sit above the deck, and under where the coil was going to go. I installed the coil in the RBA, and wrapped 32ga kanthal over the Nextel. I wrapped it snug, so that the wire was in contact all the way. When I fired it, there were no hot spots. I primed it with some juice, and filled the tank. I have to say that it wicked well, and kept up as I vaped. Nice clean flavor. No metalic taste.
However, it is a little finicky to work with. It frays very easily. Difficult to cut. In fact, it shouldn't be cut until it's been torched. Torching it stiffens it up. I've read where some folks are working with it after soaking it in PG or VG, to keep it damp. It elimiates the fraying, but it's messy.
My feeling is, it's a viable alternative, for those who are having trouble with ss mesh and coils. With the Nextel, there simply are no hot spots. For me, I've been pretty successful at setting up gennys with just mesh, so it's not worth the extra steps.

 

[vapdivrr]

I fooled around with the Nextel for a few minutes yesterday. My impression is mixed. With the xc116, after torching a section to cherry red, I opened it enough, using a small phillips screwdriver from a mini screwdriver set, and swaged the inside out enough to slip a 3/32" wick inside it. I only sleeved the part of the wick that would sit above the deck, and under where the coil was going to go. I installed the coil in the RBA, and wrapped 32ga kanthal over the Nextel. I wrapped it snug, so that the wire was in contact all the way. When I fired it, there were no hot spots. I primed it with some juice, and filled the tank. I have to say that it wicked well, and kept up as I vaped. Nice clean flavor. No metalic taste.
However, it is a little finicky to work with. It frays very easily. Difficult to cut. In fact, it shouldn't be cut until it's been torched. Torching it stiffens it up. I've read where some folks are working with it after soaking it in PG or VG, to keep it damp. It elimiates the fraying, but it's messy.
My feeling is, it's a viable alternative, for those who are having trouble with ss mesh and coils. With the Nextel, there simply are no hot spots. For me, I've been pretty successful at setting up gennys with just mesh, so it's not worth the extra steps.

thanks rule. you know i do hear of the "no chance for shorts" about the ceramic, while this is true to me it wasnt a big factor in using it, for like you, i never really had an issue with this with ss mesh. really the only reason i perfer the ceramic is purely the flavor. not sure how the nextel compares to the fc-ceramic, but the flavor i am geting from these wicks is really terrific. while there is always pros & cons to just about everything in vaping, the pros to these ceramic wicks have been far out weighing the cons at this point. thanks for trying out the nextel for comparisons.

 

[vapdivrr]

Oh yea, but unlike you lucky folks in FL, we have to brave the big freeze here in KY to fish all year. Working for that trophy bass is almost like finding the perfect vape - can be ellusive for sure. The hunt sure is fun though!

it gets cold here as well, for it is like 70 degrees here right now! lol

 

[ricks]

it gets cold here as well, for it is like 70 degrees here right now! lol

I'm moving to Florida... I hope to make this happen this summer. I want cold 70 degree winter days...

 

[vapdivrr]

Wow... I think I fall in love with Kanthal A1 30g wire....

the 30g seems perfect with the ceramic. i have always perfered 28g over 30g with ss wicks, but maybe with ceramic the 30g might be equal to the 28g. although 28g and ceramic is an awesome combination, it can be just a bit unresponsive. the flavor is unbeatable with the 28g, but its just a tad bit slow. ceramic does take just a bit longer to heat compared to ss mesh, this coupled with the fact that 28g wire in itself is slightly slower then a thinner wire creates a slight delay in heating. thats why the 30g might be perfect for ceramic. i have both the 30g and 28g going right now and think both are awesome. if i want some better flavor i will vape the 28g, if i want some faster vapor i will pick up the 30g, love them both far better then the 32g.

 

[vapdivrr]

I'm moving to Florida... I hope to make this happen this summer. I want cold 70 degree winter days...

actually it is kind of cold here today, it is like 60. last night it got to like 47. but really throughout the winter you may get a total of 20 days in which the temperature gets under 55. now north florida is different, they get alot colder. however, i do remember in 1978 in south florida it did snow once, it melted as it hit the ground but i can remember it collected on my coat.

 

[gdeal]

Quick update on using cheesecloth to shorten break-in time.....After ~30mls and a pressing urge to recoil with ribbon wire, I took the 30g round wire cc/wick set up apart. Surprisingly most of the single thread of cheesecloth was intact. The coil released easily from cc/wick and the thread just unwound from the ceramic. The ceramic underneath was very clean. The cheese cloth was brown and bit gunked up but nothing even close to what I get on a SS mesh setup for the same mls and juice type. I didnt even feel the need to torch the ceramic, it was a bit darker, but that seemed more like discoloration, than pore clogging gunk.

So I just took another thread of cc, put a one layer strand over the wick and recoiled with .5x.1 ribbon. I was back in action in under 10 minutes. Half a tank later, the cotton settle down and its really working well. This is just getting better and better.