fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

[vapdivrr]

The .5mm x .1mm ribbon reacts just like 30g. It has almost the same resistance. I can get instant-on with the Provari at 1.6Ω. The .8mm x .1mm wire is about the same as 28g, but slightly lower resistance, so it will be slow at above 1Ω coils. I did pull together a coil with the new wire for an Ody clone earlier and it vapes great at .9Ω.

i guess if its the same as the 28 and 30, then it will react the same. i just look at it and it looks so big compared to the round wire. i guess it must be alot thinner. i am still perfecting the ehw on regular wire, cant imagine trying the ribbon wire yet, for its gotta be harder.

 

[vapdivrr]

I'm on 3/32 with 30g and AGA-T+. The hot wrap has been tough with 3/32 and not an absolute necessity since I can already do tight wraps using a smaller drill bit then torching the coiled wick as it is held tensioned by both ends with pliers. Then I connect to the AGA and wrap around about 4 in. of juiced up cheesecloth (using needle) and then I just dry burn it all away. I think this is pretty much how I'm going to keep it as far as the AGA and the 3/32.
I'm going to try a DiD clone with 1/8 wick and the .8mm ribbon as an alternative setup hoping it will allow for a tastier, thicker chain vape. When the mailman delivers all the toys I will post an update but right now I'm concerned I got too thick a wire and I may not be able to get it wrapped tight and at 1.2 ohms for my Vamo to take it. Wish me luck.

yes, i tend to agree with you on the 3/32 wick. i can do a pretty tight wrap on the 3/32 wick just by my method, and i think it may be to fragile to hot wrap the smaller wick. i have been thinking that the next time i need to re-coil my 3/32 wick will i try a hot wrap or just do what i have been doing. if i had more wicks i might try hot wrapping the 3/32 wicks, but i only have 2 at the moment. now when it comes to the 1/8 wicks, no doubt the hot wrap rocks. hot wrap rocks, say that fast 3x's

 

[Elias]

I gave up on the ribbon last night, I will try it again tonight, but its a tough call because of the fact it is flat you need to have the correct angle otherwise an edge will lift.

 

[turspedie]

yes, i tend to agree with you on the 3/32 wick. i can do a pretty tight wrap on the 3/32 wick just by my method, and i think it may be to fragile to hot wrap the smaller wick. i have been thinking that the next time i need to re-coil my 3/32 wick will i try a hot wrap or just do what i have been doing. if i had more wicks i might try hot wrapping the 3/32 wicks, but i only have 2 at the moment. now when it comes to the 1/8 wicks, no doubt the hot wrap rocks. hot wrap rocks, say that fast 3x's

I'm truly looking forward to trying the hot wrap on the 1/8 wick!

 

[turspedie]

I gave up on the ribbon last night, I will try it again tonight, but its a tough call because of the fact it is flat you need to have the correct angle otherwise an edge will lift.

Knowing you Elias we will probably have some kind of ERW (Elias Ribbon Wrap) soon! Lol... And hopefully before the mailman brings mine

 

[timothy]

OK this thing is getting better its taking about 1.5 seconds after you hit the button till a good vape but the flavor and vapor is awesome , I think the harsh hits was that I only had the tank 1/4 full , still needs some breaking in but much better. The 3/32 wick does make a huge cloud best I've had with 100% pg

 

[turspedie]

OK this thing is getting better its taking about 1.5 seconds after you hit the button till a good vape but the flavor and vapor is awesome , I think the harsh hits was that I only had the tank 1/4 full , still needs some breaking in but much better. The 3/32 wick does make a huge cloud best I've had with 100% pg

I went through the same harsh hits problem at first. Full tank helps and tilting it to make sure the the wick is saturated before you vape helps too. If you can get your hands on any kind of 100% cotton thread (old tshirt maybe?) and you fully disinfect by boiling, then wrap around your coil with juice on it and dry burn it all away, you will be fully broken in. Also a tighter coil helps tremendously.

 

[gdeal]

I gave up on the ribbon last night, I will try it again tonight, but its a tough call because of the fact it is flat you need to have the correct angle otherwise an edge will lift.

You cant give up....The technique has your name on it...

I found that the flat wire needs to to be heated longer/hotter so that you get nearer to the melt point. Once your at that point the wire gives, just like in your close-up video where you got the wire to almost adhere to the wick. (that occurs at the 26 second mark) This was with the .5mm. The .8mm is trickier, but I am sure the pay off will be there once we nail it.

 

[divinerebel]

just to let yall know , ive been hot wraping my 3/32 fc wicks without breaking any
oh and by the way vapdivrr , i re-built the last wick and put on 30 guage wire and ended up with 1.4 ohms running 8 watts till it breaks in a bit , but its so much better than the 32 guage....thanks a ton for the advice

 

[Elias]

You cant give up....The technique has your name on it...

I found that the flat wire needs to to be heated longer/hotter so that you get nearer to the melt point. Once your at that point the wire gives, just like in your close-up video where you got the wire to almost adhere to the wick. (that occurs at the 26 second mark) This was with the .5mm. The .8mm is trickier, but I am sure the pay off will be there once we nail it.

Good to know, but that rules out holding by bare fingers.... darn it.... going to have to use a toolkit

 

[DeadPerfect]

i bought i spindle of 32g wire, then read the 30g is better, lol. gotta get sum 30g

 

[DSmooch]

wow dsmooch, very nice, they look nice and round. so far no real difference to the fc-wick?

thanks! I'm proud of my hard work
look i'm not sure if its my setup... I know the EHW didn't stick well on it. so it took a full tank to really settle. I had a good flow right from the start but I was hitting drys sooner than usual. With the FC I hardly ever hit a dry after half a tank when its warapped correctly. Again maybe just my setup.
Other than that they feel more solid, less fragile. I think its due to the fact they are a bit less porous. OR its maybe due to the fact that I finished them on the bench ginder so they have a more consistent finish than the FC.
All I can say for sure is that this morning it just works great...and I finally have my AC9s covered properly And I can make one for my miniDID too.
The sales pitch is obvious here: " 50cents-8$ .... 50cents-8$ .... 50cents-8$ .... 50cents-8$ .... 50cents-8$ ".... LOL
If you can hear it, the fishstix, it just makes sense and the fc days are over for me until it goes something like " 50cents-1$ .... 50cents-1$ ", I'll reconsider then.
My message to the fc2000 guy is "buddy, get real!"... economics 101, when the price is too high, smugglers are happy...

 

[Elias]

OK guys Ive noticed something, here it is, the smoother the surface the less the wick sticks using the EHW method, I have now verified this with the wicks I have some are rough on one side smooth on the other and the smooth side will not grip the wire as well as the rougher side....

I think I am going to take a scribe to them and rough them up a little, see how they turn out and report back here, but looking at it under the magnifying glass thats what ive noticed at this stage which would probably make sense to DSmooch and his set up above.

So dont sand them smooth guys, I think the rougher the better....

Back soon

Elias

 

[DSmooch]

yeah I think this is what happened to me yesterday. the wicks I made are really smooth. So this morning I did a EHW slo-mo... I really took my time on each loop... and bang, 0 brakin...

 

[Elias]

I think the key is the smoother it is the more heat and time you need to wrap the coil. I still managed to make the wick stick to the smooth side but it was a major effort.
The scribe didnt work because I could run it along the edge without it slipping off a side, so I used a diamond tip hole saw and roughed it up a little and they worked great.

I may have to do another video and put in what we have found here.

what would be great is a jig that has a very slow motor to it that can be controlled by foot switch something that also holds the wick and then you could use one hand to hold the wire and one hand to hold the torch to it so you could wrap it and the only exposed part being the top of the wick, I could probably build something like that from bits and pieces... but at this stage I have too many things going on in my life to find the time to make it.... I'll draw up what I mean tomorrow, scan it and show a picture of it here.....

Elias

 

[ericska]

Hey, Scubabatdan just got a new idea how to hot wrap on ceramic wick! Electrical Hot Wrap... still EHW...
Link here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ing-porous-ceramic-wicks-245.html#post8923731

Get a try later...

 

[gdeal]

Hey, Scubabatdan just got a new idea how to hot wrap on ceramic wick! Electrical Hot Wrap... still EHW...


...

Hmm..... I was thinking more like: EEHW - "Elias Electric Hot Wrap"

 

[ericska]

Hmm..... I was thinking more like: EEHW - "Elias Electric Hot Wrap"

Collection: DEHW - Dan's Electrical Hot Wrap.

 

[Scubabatdan]

Oh the shoulders of great men...

Here is the video for it:



Dan

 

[Scubabatdan]

I gave up on the ribbon last night, I will try it again tonight, but its a tough call because of the fact it is flat you need to have the correct angle otherwise an edge will lift.

Try the electrical method, but rather than putting the wire through the wand, run it down the side so the flat part turns over the metal tip and squares it to the wick.

Hope this helps, I have some ribbon comming in and cant wait to try it
Dan