fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

[DSmooch]

Hey absynth... your coils need to be snug for it to start doing the job. go back a few pages and check Elias Hot Wrap vid and I strongly suggest you start with a 30g if you have one. this one looks like a 28g. You may also go back to page 8 or nine at vapdivr vid, doing it with no trck. that'll give you an idea of the coils you need.
good vape bro...

 

[Absintheur]

I have 28, 30, and 32 on hand. With the tiny 3/32 wick I am scared of snapping it if I try to get the coils much tighter

 

[DSmooch]

here's vapdivr on a 3/32... a couple of pages back you'll filnd Elias method.
I strongly suggest you start with the 32 or 30 if you go manual. for the 28 you will need the hot wrap.

 

[gdeal]

gotch gdeal, i was thinking 10 minutes? what the heck. anyways gdeal, is it to early to ask you if you prefer the ribbon over the regular wire? and also factoring in the difficulties in actually wrapping the ribbon. do you think that once you get profficient in hot wrapping the ribbon, it will get just as easy as regular wire? i also was thinking of trying the ribbon, but so far i dont know. thanks

Not sure if I have a preference yet, I need to go full circle back to round wire and see.

I think it can hot wrap as easy as round wire, but you need to focus on keeping the ribbon flat and starting off with a good angle. Then it just lays down on the ceramic like round wire except it needs quite a bit more heat. So its one level of difficulty higher, but its not a big hurdle.

 

[gdeal]

I have 28, 30, and 32 on hand. With the tiny 3/32 wick I am scared of snapping it if I try to get the coils much tighter

Hey Absintheur.

Try the hot wrap method. First do a practice run or two, Take some 30g and use a 3/32 drill bit instead of ceramic. You can get a feel for exactly how much pressure to apply or not to apply to get the wire tight on the wick. If you dont have a torch take a candle and use 32g.

Why practice on your good stuff?

 

[Elias]

Absyntheur

I understand that your concerned with snapping the wicks, at that size they are very fragile, if your not game enough to try the EHW then may I suggest you use the drill bit method, this involves a slightly smaller drill bit or at the very least the same size drill bit wrapping the coil on that first then transferring it over to the wick

Be very gentle with the wicks, but you dont need a velvet glove to handle them too

One thing is for sure, while the coil is not touching that wick at any point around the wick then that will produce a dry hit because the coil will burn the juice presented to it in the wicking action as the coil will simply glow every fire

Even when you think it is touching all the way around and it looks good it can still be "gappy" and take a tank of juice to run it in, my first ceramic attempt took a little over 1 tank before I was able to inhale it without ripping through my throat due to dry hits.

Once the coil "gunks" up and the coil has burnt juice between it and the wick then it starts running nice,but there is a trade off the more gunk the less wicking so get the coil tight and touching as much of the surface that you possibly can so that the gunking is reduced to an absolute minimum, this is why the hot wrap method so far seems to be the best because the coil is flexible enough to sit onto the wick snugly filling in almost every gap and therefore no dry hits

Hope this helps

Elias

 

[Elias]

Hey Absintheur.

Try the hot wrap method. First do a practice run or two, Take some 30g and use a 3/32 drill bit instead of ceramic. You can get a feel for exactly how much pressure to apply or not to apply to get the wire tight on the wick. If you dont have a torch take a candle and use 32g.

Why practice on your good stuff?

Heh yeah, good idea, actually even using a hex key would be best that way you could see if your wrapping enough to take on the shape of the "wick" in the case of a hex key if you cant follow the hexangle around then your technique needs to be revised either more heat or something

 

[martin777]

I have seen a couple of videos saying to stay out of rms mode. Not even sure why they made it an option.

Links?
I have read somewhere that PWM can cause shorts in SS wicks settups. I guess some kind of resonance is set up--not sure. The VAMO VW/RMS mode does pulse at 33.3Hz -sooooo...maybe. Sometimes you can hear it "buzz".

P Busardo has a whole review on the Vamo on youtube and I think he discusses the rms thing on there. Possibly a good one to take a look at.

PBusardo---"I'm becoming a fan of variable power--I really and truly am."
Start this video at 9:50

 

[DeadPerfect]

snapped a 3/32 wick heat wrapping it. its ok though, these things hit too dry. someone who makes 1/8th wicks please sell some. not inteested in paying 20+ bucks for 3

 

[martin777]

Hey Absintheur.

First do a practice run or two,...Why practice on your good stuff?

Very good idea.

 

[vapdivrr]

Not sure if I have a preference yet, I need to go full circle back to round wire and see.

I think it can hot wrap as easy as round wire, but you need to focus on keeping the ribbon flat and starting off with a good angle. Then it just lays down on the ceramic like round wire except it needs quite a bit more heat. So its one level of difficulty higher, but its not a big hurdle.

hey buddy, did you exclusivly use ribbon when you were using ss?

 

[vapdivrr]

snapped a 3/32 wick heat wrapping it. its ok though, these things hit too dry. someone who makes 1/8th wicks please sell some. not inteested in paying 20+ bucks for 3

they went quick? i do believe no one will have to worry to much about the 3/32 wicks for to much longer, for they will be discontinued. however i really love the way they perform in the aga. i think it is because they fit so loosly in the wick hole. they just are to fragile. funny enough though i have broke one wick in over a month, and it was a 1/8 size. i have heard that the replacement for the 3/32 will be 7/64. i would like to try this size in the attys that i currently am running 1/8 wicks, to see if more room creates alot better wicking. dead perfect, i think you might have to give it a go and try to make some, or order some 1/8 wicks. if you buy the 1/8, i think you be more sucessful in having them around for a while. i recieved that drill pen today, man its pretty cheap, and not sure if it will actually hold the 1/8 wicks, it looks a little to small.

 

[vapdivrr]

Oh no, I digressed, I was initially starting with batteries and went onto other subjects with no real direction in mind....

The IMR batts are better than trustfire heck I have so many types here and the efest seem to hold up the best out of the cheaper types...

I have a battery analyzer I should put them on and do the tests, but it takes 48 hours of slow charge / rapid / slow discharge and cyles over various patterns and reflects the true capacity, but setting it up takes some effort... oh and do you have a caravela? I would bragg if I had one, it's limited edition ....

and I was drinking last night when I was typing... I meant no insult direction of downer on anyone or anything so if I came across wrong for anyone please excuse me.... I was frustrated with many things happening in my life.... I just vented a little....

Elias

no worrys brother, its all good

 

[vapdivrr]

I bore all my rba's to 3/32. I like an airy draw when im vaping under .8 ohms. But thats my opinion. Most people do go with the 1/16 but maybe you should try it for a few days before you open it up. Sometimes we're used to vaping a certain way.

is that you? that looks like that backero wire video.

 

[SteveW]

Links?
I have read somewhere that PWM can cause shorts in SS wicks settups. I guess some kind of resonance is set up--not sure. The VAMO VW/RMS mode does pulse at 33.3Hz -sooooo...maybe. Sometimes you can hear it "buzz".



PBusardo---"I'm becoming a fan of variable power--I really and truly am."
Start this video at 9:50

Sorry, I got this around the wrong way, the recommended setting is rms [N02] it is the mean setting that can cause problems [N01]. Most sites that sell it also mention using rms.

 

[Hello World]

Finally got all my ceramic wicks, AGA-T2s and other stuff together to make this happen.

Pictured above, 1 of 2 AGA-T2 wickholes were just milled out to 9/16. Lots of clearance for the juice to get up the sides of these 1/8 CF-2000s.

A third was done to 4mm for big fat-a$$ed SS mesh wicks for the workaday world.

Summary ... where do I begin?

3/4 @ 30ga Kanthal hand-wrapped very tightly, took my sweet time to make sure no voids or looseness existed. I was surprised it didn't break, since the first of the three was accidentally wasted trying to snap on the cap. I was able to keep consistent pressure while coiling the unit in my hand.

Fired it up, No shorts, no hot spots, no coil adjustments necessary. All was just perfect right off the get-go.

Gradually ran 12mls of PG through the genny over a span of 12 hours before it was apparent she was broken in with major vapor kicking up.

First of all, the vape, in contrast to SS ... is almost invariably consistent -- no dry hits, no tilting -- same vape every time. Better than 50% more vapor production and throat hit.

Flavor ... I'm blown away. I thought Clearos to SS mesh RBAs was a major step, this one to ceramic wicks just as stellar. A DIY concoction I had made some time ago I was certain I must have forgotten to add -- a touch of vanilla ... was right here -- all the flavor nuances and subtleties shining through. You don't know what you are missing folks, for those who haven't jumped in yet. I still can't believe the awesome taste of this juice I'm vaping right now -- chain-vaping away uninterrupted, no dry hits. After having vaped the ceramic wick for an hour, the ss mesh one seems tasteless ... lol

A strong vendor flavored juice I purchased several months ago mix-designated for clearos had been lingering on the shelf. I mixed 2 drops with 1 ml of unflavoured juice and got better concentrated taste with the ceramic wick than I would have unmixed in a clearo. This may spell a new era for DIY and made simple -- just use your fav vendor juice. My flavored juice stash just went from 2 months to 2 years ... lol

I just ordered another dozen CF 2000 wicks. I'm done with ss, I'm done with hot spots ... except where some conditions would place the ceramics at risk. Oddly enough my batteries are now lasting longer not being leeched away by continuous partial SS shorts.

Hopefully gennys with 1/8 inch wickholes and larger become a standard in the future. I would say with ceramics, vaping has just about become perfect.

 

[gdeal]

hey buddy, did you exclusivly use ribbon when you were using ss?

Not sure about your question....long day .....I still use SS mesh, both with ribbon and round but I was was talking about ceramic wicks. There are all coiled with ribbon now, so I need to go back and set up one with round wire using EHW and do a head to head comparison. I'm going to unwrap that .8 ribbon wire coil and replace with 30g round tomorrow.

 

[SteveW]

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First of all, the vape, in contrast to SS ... is almost invariably consistent -- no dry hits, no tilting -- same vape every time. Better than 50% more vapor production and throat hit.

Flavor ... I'm blown away. I thought Clearos to SS mesh RBAs was a major step, this one to ceramic wicks just as stellar. A DIY concoction I had made some time ago I was certain I must have forgotten to add -- a touch of vanilla ... was right here -- all the flavor nuances and subtleties shining through. You don't know what you are missing folks, for those who haven't jumped in yet. I still can't believe the awesome taste of this juice I'm vaping right now -- chain-vaping away uninterrupted, no dry hits. After having vaped the ceramic wick for an hour, the ss mesh one seems tasteless ... lol

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Hopefully gennys with 1/8 inch wickholes and larger become a standard in the future. I would say with ceramics, vaping has just about become perfect.

Great write up! Some gennys seem made for 1/8. The DID (genuine) is perfect in every respect: height, 3.5mm wick hole. The AC9 has a big hole as well. There is also a Senisis atty out there at the moment that has a list you can jump on (no need to pay until contacted and asked if you want to go ahead). It is a pure piece of art and you can specify what size you want wick hole/ air hole etc prior to manufacture. The flavor is great isn't it .

 

[vapdivrr]

View attachment 188930

Finally got all my ceramic wicks, AGA-T2s and other stuff together to make this happen.

Pictured above, 1 of 2 AGA-T2 wickholes were just milled out to 9/16. Lots of clearance for the juice to get up the sides of these 1/8 CF-2000s.

A third was done to 4mm for big fat-a$$ed SS mesh wicks for the workaday world.

Summary ... where do I begin?

3/4 @ 30ga Kanthal hand-wrapped very tightly, took my sweet time to make sure no voids or looseness existed. I was surprised it didn't break, since the first of the three was accidentally wasted trying to snap on the cap. I was able to keep consistent pressure while coiling the unit in my hand.

Fired it up, No shorts, no hot spots, no coil adjustments necessary. All was just perfect right off the get-go.

Gradually ran 12mls of PG through the genny over a span of 12 hours before it was apparent she was broken in with major vapor kicking up.

First of all, the vape, in contrast to SS ... is almost invariably consistent -- no dry hits, no tilting -- same vape every time. Better than 50% more vapor production and throat hit.

Flavor ... I'm blown away. I thought Clearos to SS mesh RBAs was a major step, this one to ceramic wicks just as stellar. A DIY concoction I had made some time ago I was certain I must have forgotten to add -- a touch of vanilla ... was right here -- all the flavor nuances and subtleties shining through. You don't know what you are missing folks, for those who haven't jumped in yet. I still can't believe the awesome taste of this juice I'm vaping right now -- chain-vaping away uninterrupted, no dry hits. After having vaped the ceramic wick for an hour, the ss mesh one seems tasteless ... lol

A strong vendor flavored juice I purchased several months ago mix-designated for clearos had been lingering on the shelf. I mixed 2 drops with 1 ml of unflavoured juice and got better concentrated taste with the ceramic wick than I would have unmixed in a clearo. This may spell a new era for DIY and made simple -- just use your fav vendor juice. My flavored juice stash just went from 2 months to 2 years ... lol

I just ordered another dozen CF 2000 wicks. I'm done with ss, I'm done with hot spots ... except where some conditions would place the ceramics at risk. Oddly enough my batteries are now lasting longer not being leeched away by continuous partial SS shorts.

Hopefully gennys with 1/8 inch wickholes and larger become a standard in the future. I would say with ceramics, vaping has just about become perfect.

awesome results, love to hear a sucessful endevour. so you said that you were able to bore out the aga to 9/16? or did you mean 9/64. isnt 9/16 over a half inch/. so how much room is left between the 1/8 wick and the newly bored wick hole?

 

[vapdivrr]

Not sure about your question....long day .....I still use SS mesh, both with ribbon and round but I was was talking about ceramic wicks. There are all coiled with ribbon now, so I need to go back and set up one with round wire using EHW and do a head to head comparison. I'm going to unwrap that .8 ribbon wire coil and replace with 30g round tomorrow.

i didnt know you still vaped ss wicks, and was asking that when you vaped ss wicks, if all your set-ups were with ribbon. so now that i know you still vape ss wicks, i guess my question is, are your current ss wicks wrapped with ribbon or regular wire? ultimately i was just curious as to whether you always prefered the ribbon over round