fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

[vapdivrr]

Hmm. proly Imageshack compressing the heck out of it and taking their sweet time. Here is an alternate link:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_egiFI_57VwS1FnNVF6U3V5cWs/edit?usp=sharing

that one worked. thats is how i have been doing it. flame away from me, wick held in right hand with twisting the wick as i hold the wire in left hand. its just that very first coil that i seem to not twist in the right hand but use the left hand to come around, i just felt like it got that first coil tighter. but i didnt have as much wire under my right hand as you, so i found that it slipped at first and thats why i rotated the wire on the first wrap. but i like the idea of more wire for it would seem to not make the first coil slip. good job gdeal

 

[vapdivrr]

Yeah, needs to be cut down a touch for the ZAP ... my first one broke the same way too. The FC-2000 height is perfect for the AGA-T2, but in any case it's always a good policy to remove the cap's o-rings to check the clearance before snapping on the cap.


1/8 CF-2000 is too tight for the ZAP, but can be forced in a bit with high risk of breakage. Although the ZAP has next to no room for drilling the wick hole, I'm sure it could be widened a hair somehow. Again, I don't think I would risk it. Hearing that 7/64 ceramic wicks will be released, they'd work perfect, and I'll order some.

yes i also think the 7/64 will be perfect. especially for the aga, it would make the bore out much easier to not have to go to a full 1/8. i heard that they may be coming out in 2-3 weeks. i think i will wait to bore out my aga, until i get my hands on some of the 7/64. also i might try them out in the did and ac-9, just to see how they differ from the 1/8 wicks

 

[vapdivrr]

OK...since it seems that its show & tell; Here's my project for today;

I drilled out the wick hole on an old DID clone to 1/8 inch & made a fishstick for it. I actually had more room to drill on this little puppy than I did for my AGA-T2. The 1/8 hole in the AGA almost cut into the center post well (the separation between the two actually fell out when I was cleaning it up...but it went back together OK).

Anyway - the DUD worked out well. I used the Elias Hot Wrap method for the coils (I haven't built one of Dan's Electrical Hot Wrap setups yet. but I plan to)

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Just needs a little fine tuning, but no real hot-spots. 30Ga-A1 Kanthal ...it hit my target Ohms rating first shot (1.5 Ohms)
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Flavors are still a little muted, but at least it didn't taste like I was vaping concrete the first few toots. The fishstick in the AGA-T2 took a little more than a tankful of Boba's to really start to shine (it's now better than any Stainless wick I ever had already), so I'm looking forward to seeing how this little guy works in a few days. It's already starting to wick better after an hour or so of use.

The more of these I do, the easier it gets.

it definatly will get better. man that is a monster wick in such a small device. its bigger then the pp.

 

[NamVet68]

yes i also think the 7/64 will be perfect. especially for the aga, it would make the bore out much easier to not have to go to a full 1/8. i heard that they may be coming out in 2-3 weeks. i think i will wait to bore out my aga, until i get my hands on some of the 7/64. also i might try them out in the did and ac-9, just to see how they differ from the 1/8 wicks

Vap; I drilled my DID clone out to 1/8 - no problem....easier than on my AGA-T2. I put up pics of it a few posts back....

EDIT ... I guess you saw it
It seems to be breaking in faster than the other one - but I'm not using 100% VG in this one, so that makes sense..... It's already better than a well broken-in SS mesh....I'm jazzed

 

[Hello World]

yes i also think the 7/64 will be perfect. especially for the aga, it would make the bore out much easier to not have to go to a full 1/8. i heard that they may be coming out in 2-3 weeks. i think i will wait to bore out my aga, until i get my hands on some of the 7/64. also i might try them out in the did and ac-9, just to see how they differ from the 1/8 wicks

I have no idea what the AGA-T2s wickhole diameter was ... never took note of it previously. But if the 7/64 fit, a lot of folk can save some change coring them out, although I believe the fit would be very tight.

The Vapes I'm getting on day 2 with these 1/8 ceramics is getting even better by the hour. I am amazed how much vaping-pull these puppies have.

 

[TBinAZ]

Yeah, needs to be cut down a touch for the ZAP ... my first one broke the same way too. The FC-2000 height is perfect for the AGA-T2, but in any case it's always a good policy to remove the cap's o-rings to check the clearance before snapping on the cap.

Just something to add here from past experience. Don't try to file down the tip of the wick to lessen the length, just snip it off with a wiring side cutter. One quick snip. If you try to grind down the tip, it will risk breakage.

 

[TBinAZ]

The Vapes I'm getting on day 2 with these 1/8 ceramics is getting even better by the hour. I am amazed how much vaping-pull these puppies have.

Sorry if I'm polluting your thread, but another tip for these AGAs. Open up the air hole on the cap a bit at a time until it's what you want. Don't direct drill to 1/16 or whatever. I picked up a cheap Dremel type of kit off of Amazon that has diamond bits which has come in handy for this kind of thing.

Pro-Quality 20-Piece Diamond Bur Set for Rotary Tool - Glass, Stone, Ceramic - Amazon.com

 

[MikeE3]

You should give this a shot.

You can read about it here.

I picked up one of those batt boxes today at Radio Shack. Now to find a little time to try to put it together.

What gauge wire are you using, Mike? 30?

30g Kanthal.

ALL RIIIIIGHT! I got my wicks (1/8), first E.H.W. (using a natural gas stove), i wrapped a nice 4 wrap 28g, placed the wick in the zen~ Ti mini and fired.............beautiful, no hot spots but i noticed a small gap on one of the wraps, what do i do, i tried to tighten the dam thing while it was in the device and....... SNAP.

2nd wrap came out beautiful, placed the wick in the device, primed w/a little juice and fired, everything is working (gatta try to hit this thing) grabed the cap and twistted in on........ SNAP. Dam wick was 3mm higher than the top post.

I am leaving the broken wick in place for now as it is still wicking and am going to see if it breaks in a little better, the flavor is def. cleaner than w/the S.S. for sure. Another attempt will be made at another time, i will get a whole wick in this thing yet.

Yea i am blowin some clouds.

The ZAP cap is def wick-a-snapper. Been there done that more than once. Gotta be careful just taking the cap off and on, not just the 1st time you setup a wick.

i know there have been alot of people who have broke the wicks with the zap attys because the standard wicks are to long . litterally with those attys you have to cut off part of the wick. so i guess the mini zen is the same. so the mini zen has a 1/8 wick hole? i know the zap's have a much smaller hole.

No - the ZAPs wick hole is a true 1/8".

 

[Hello World]

Open up the air hole on the cap a bit at a time until it's what you want.

Was done when I first got them ... I preferred to use a small electronic screwdriver to gradually gore them open until perfect.

 

[vapdivrr]

I have no idea what the AGA-T2s wickhole diameter was ... never took note of it previously. But if the 7/64 fit, a lot of folk can save some change coring them out, although I believe the fit would be very tight.

The Vapes I'm getting on day 2 with these 1/8 ceramics is getting even better by the hour. I am amazed how much vaping-pull these puppies have.

i dont believe that a 7/64 wick will fit into a stock aga, i just think it will be easier to bore out the aga to fit a 7/64 then it is to bore out to fit a 1/8 wick. to bore out the aga to fit a 7/64 wick seems like it could be done at home rather then bringing it to a mechine shop to have it bored out to 1/8. i just think it is a little to iffy to bore out to over 1/8,although the bore out has been done to 1/8 on the aga, it just will be more cut & dry to open to fit a 7/64 wick. but the 1/8 wicks are pretty solid and just dont know if the 7/64 will be as succesful as the 1/8 for breakage results, so the 1/8 still may be the better option

 

[vapdivrr]

I picked up one of those batt boxes today at Radio Shack. Now to find a little time to try to put it together.



The ZAP cap is def wick-a-snapper. Been there done that more than once. Gotta be careful just taking the cap off and on, not just the 1st time you setup a wick.



No - the ZAPs wick hole is a true 1/8".

my bad, i thought they were smaller. maybe it was because once someone couldnt fit a 1/8 wick into a zap, that was probably because oof the varience of the ceramic, for sometimes they vary a little either way. so thats what those are, a battery box? how much are they?

 

[Hello World]

i dont believe that a 7/64 wick will fit into a stock aga,

No idea, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't fit, but I'm sure it's very close. Makes you wonder what is going on with these CF-2000 manufacturers? Making ceramic wicks that don't fit most of the gennys nicely.

i just think it will be easier to bore out the aga to fit a 7/64 then it is to bore out to fit a 1/8 wick.

Personally? ... I would not risk cutting into the AGA-T2 with a drill ... there is next to no room to get any closer to the center post without cutting into the threads. If someone else has already done that successfully for the same EXACT make of your AGA-T2, then go with that. The ones I have, I would never cut even a micron closer inwards.

 

[MikeE3]

my bad, i thought they were smaller. maybe it was because once someone couldnt fit a 1/8 wick into a zap, that was probably because oof the varience of the ceramic, for sometimes they vary a little either way. so thats what those are, a battery box? how much are they?

Not problem about what you said. Just trying to clear it up. 2 out of 3 FC-2000s would not fit into my ZAP, they needed just a little sanding to take off high spots. If I reduced the O.D. it wasn't intentional nor hardly at all.

The R.S. batt box was $2.49 and an AW IMR 14500 batt fit in just fine. It's actually a 4x batt holder but you only need 1 batt.

 

[vapdivrr]

Not problem about what you said. Just trying to clear it up. 2 out of 3 FC-2000s would not fit into my ZAP, they needed just a little sanding to take off high spots. If I reduced the O.D. it wasn't intentional nor hardly at all.

The R.S. batt box was $2.49 and an AW IMR 14500 batt fit in just fine. It's actually a 4x batt holder but you only need 1 batt.

thanks buddy

 

[vapdivrr]

No idea, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't fit, but I'm sure it's very close. Makes you wonder what is going on with these CF-2000 manufacturers? Making ceramic wicks that don't fit most of the gennys nicely.


Personally? ... I would not risk cutting into the AGA-T2 with a drill ... there is next to no room to get any closer to the center post without cutting into the threads. If someone else has already done that successfully for the same EXACT make of your AGA-T2, then go with that. The ones I have, I would never cut even a micron closer inwards.

just looking at my original aga-t, i believe that it can be bored out from its original size to 7/64 with no problems. i dont think it is much more than it is now. i know from the top it looks like theres plenty of room, but its the underside that tells the tale. honestly i love the vape right now with the 3/32 wicks, its awesome, but if there not going to make them anymore, i must bore out. i guess i can make my own wicks, but i would rather buy them. i guess i just been lucky, i have broke 1 wick in almost 2 months, and thats because i knocked over the device, so to me it really isnt to bad to buy them, although i do wish they were a little cheaper, but if you are sucessful in using them it doesnt add up to much. so far i have one that i have been using and its about 2 months old.

 

[Hello World]

just looking at my original aga-t, i believe that it can be bored out from its original size to 7/64 with no problems.

Again, I've never had the original AGA-T, so whatever I said may not apply to yours.

its the underside that tells the tale.

Exactly, tells you everything.

honestly i love the vape right now with the 3/32 wicks, its awesome, but if there not going to make them anymore, i must bore out.

Maybe someone else here on the board can post the exact AGA-T wick hole diameter for your atty.

i guess i can make my own wicks, but i would rather buy them.

Me too. Not worth my time to futz with it ... at not at this point anymore. But you never know, the itch to play may overtake me some day.

i guess i just been lucky, i have broke 1 wick in almost 2 months, and thats because i knocked over the device, so to me it really isnt to bad to buy them, although i do wish they were a little cheaper, but if you are sucessful in using them it doesnt add up to much. so far i have one that i have been using and its about 2 months old.

We're a tie so far then ...
Good show!

I just ordered a dozen of them for about $80 ... now that I know what they taste like, money's no longer an object ... lol
At this stage, getting stranded with SS mesh 'only' could be a disaster ...

 

[vapdivrr]

Again, I've never had the original AGA-T, so whatever I said may not apply to yours.


Exactly, tells you everything.


Maybe someone else here on the board can post the exact AGA-T wick hole diameter for your atty.


Me too. Not worth my time to futz with it ... at not at this point anymore. But you never know, the itch to play may overtake me some day.


We're a tie so far then ...
Good show!

I just ordered a dozen of them for about $60 ... now that I know what they taste like, money's no longer an object ... lol
At this stage, getting stranded with SS mesh 'only' could be a disaster ...

i definatly feel the same, i have all i need at this point so the only costs to me are my juice and wicks, still alot cheaper then the 2 packs a day i was spending. but then again if you figure all the costs of my vaper devices to this point i dont think i have saved anything, but it keeps me busy and out of trouble, so i guess its a small price to pay. on the other hand if i was heavy handed, and just wasnt that good with the wicks, and had broken one a week, then perhaps i might have gone back to mesh or definatly been playing with the fish.

 

[martin777]

When my FC 2000's-1/8" arrive tomorrow I will try a coil wrapping setup similar to scubabatdan's. I
just so happen to have one of THESE with has constant current OR constant voltage "crossover" regulation.

I bought an AGA-T+ a month ago and I did not measure the wick hole BUT I was able to drill it out to
9/64--Very close to the center hole but no problem at all. That will give me some wiggle room/venting for the 1/8" wick. This AGA-T+ has red/black o-rings and a glass tank. I've been lucky so far even after
borking 2 FS's.

p.s.--I have a 5/4 29ga (1.3Ω) around a FS wick and it's just now coming to life--WOW! Just WOW! Took just over a tank. What can we expect the life of these coils to be?

 

[TBinAZ]

When my FC 2000's-1/8" arrive tomorrow I will try a coil wrapping setup similar to scubabatdan's. I
just so happen to have one of THESE with has constant current OR constant voltage "crossover" regulation.

I bought an AGA-T+ a month ago and I did not measure the wick hole BUT I was able to drill it out to
9/64--Very close to the center hole but no problem at all. That will give me some wiggle room/venting for the 1/8" wick. This AGA-T+ has red/black o-rings and a glass tank. I've been lucky so far even after
snapping 2 FS's.

p.s.--I have a 5/4 29ga (1.3Ω) around a FS wick and it's just now coming to life--WOW! Took just over
a tank. What can we expect the life of these coils to be?

Ummm, forever? Who knows. If I remember correctly, it was either gdeal, or bapgood, can't remember, who was using an espresso wand to clean the wick/coil of the gunk buildup while installed on the atty. Depends on how crafty you are I guess.

Nice rig you have, but I'm pretty confident that all you will really need is a small box, a 9v battery, or less like an 18350, to do the job.

 

[Lhartman89]

OK...since it seems that its show & tell; Here's my project for today;

I drilled out the wick hole on an old DID clone to 1/8 inch & made a fishstick for it. I actually had more room to drill on this little puppy than I did for my AGA-T2. The 1/8 hole in the AGA almost cut into the center post well (the separation between the two actually fell out when I was cleaning it up...but it went back together OK).

Anyway - the DUD worked out well. I used the Elias Hot Wrap method for the coils (I haven't built one of Dan's Electrical Hot Wrap setups yet. but I plan to)

View attachment 189157

Just needs a little fine tuning, but no real hot-spots. 30Ga-A1 Kanthal ...it hit my target Ohms rating first shot (1.5 Ohms)
View attachment 189158

Flavors are still a little muted, but at least it didn't taste like I was vaping concrete the first few toots. The fishstick in the AGA-T2 took a little more than a tankful of Boba's to really start to shine (it's now better than any Stainless wick I ever had already), so I'm looking forward to seeing how this little guy works in a few days. It's already starting to wick better after an hour or so of use.

The more of these I do, the easier it gets.

That is good to hear because I just ordered 3 of the DID clones yesterday and plan to drill out on of them and make a fish wick for it.