FDA approved e-cig?

[arnoman]

I spoke with a guy today that told me the RUYAN Co. has been approved by the FDA. I also went to S'moore's China web site and they are claiming to be FDA approved. Anyone hear of this? I think the problem we're going to have in the long run is the liquid. The fella I talked to says he has documentation to that effect. I am meeting him tomorrow and will post what he shows me. My shipments are in customs as well. Check it out-

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[Oldnamenomore]

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has no mention of it

 

[kylewinther]

I have documentation from the FDA that shows that the Smoore company is patent pending and may have a F D A registration which is a bit different. Getting FDA approved for a device like this may cost anywhere from 2 million to 5 million dollars and about 7-10 years because they have to do so many studies and test to approve it first. I know this because we checked into it and got this info straight from the horses mouth.
That is why many supplement/vitamin companies are not F D A approved, it would cost way to much!

 

[LuckySevens4U]

I have documentation from the FDA that shows that the Smoore company is patent pending and may have a F D A registration which is a bit different. Getting FDA approved for a device like this may cost anywhere from 2 million to 5 million dollars and about 7-10 years because they have to do so many studies and test to approve it first. I know this because we checked into it and got this info straight from the horses mouth.
That is why many supplement/vitamin companies are not F D A approved, it would cost way to much!

Correct, and the FDA HATES natural supplements because they want a piece of that pie too. They banned Epehdrine, which really, truly worked for some people on weight loss, but then I heard it's allowed again, haven't kept up on it.

 

[arnoman]

What effect would that have on importing thier product?

 

[katink]

Smoore states "FDA Approval"and not 'FDA-Approved'. I wonder if that might mean that they are simply entering the approval-process, and don't actually HAVE approval... (they also might have approval for a different product and not for e-cig, of course).
Would be interesting if they did have approval - but I find it rather hard to believe at this time...

 

[MonkeyMonk]

Interesting... maybe their stuff will get through customs.

 

[Alanae]

I ordered from absolutelyecigs which is attached to Smoore. I purchased my first ecig 2 weeks ago and it flew through customs. Being lucky I decided to take a chance and go back to absolutelyecigs and get some of their new ejuice to try. I was a bit worried about the whole "coming from China" customs bit, but I didn't have any problems at all. My shipment flew through customs and I had it within 7 days as per usual. Maybe I'm just lucky

 

[Vapor Pete]

Correct, and the FDA HATES natural supplements because they want a piece of that pie too. They banned Epehdrine, which really, truly worked for some people on weight loss, but then I heard it's allowed again, haven't kept up on it.

Where I am, you can purchase Ephedrin but you have to go to the pharmacist to get it, then they take your name and track how many times you buy it. From my understanding, they are doing this because kids were using it to make drug coctails.
My best,
-VP

 

[Hangar]

I ordered from absolutelyecigs which is attached to Smoore. I purchased my first ecig 2 weeks ago and it flew through customs. Being lucky I decided to take a chance and go back to absolutelyecigs and get some of their new ejuice to try. I was a bit worried about the whole "coming from China" customs bit, but I didn't have any problems at all. My shipment flew through customs and I had it within 7 days as per usual. Maybe I'm just lucky

yea me too...i havent heard much about the small personal orders having problems getting through customs, but I have seen problems for some supplier orders...just not sure if they're targeting simply the larger orders or specific manufacturers?

It would be interesting to hear from anyone who has had customs problems with a small personal order....are these having troubles too??

 

[swoods93631]

Where I am, you can purchase Ephedrin but you have to go to the pharmacist to get it, then they take your name and track how many times you buy it. From my understanding, they are doing this because kids were using it to make drug coctails.
My best,
-VP

It is used to make Methamphetimine. Speed, ...., Crystal, Whatever you want to call it. Ephedrine is the main ingredient. They would buy hundreds of packages and "cook" it down with propylene (they called it prope dope) to make the ..... Hence the ban and in California anyway the need to pick up a card off the shelf and give it to the pharmiscist to get cold medicine.

 

[Alanae]

I thought all of the US had gone with the pharmacy approach with certain otc's that could be used to make ..... The same applies here in NC. I think last time I picked up a med that had to be bought from behind the pharmacy counter they took down everything but my blood type, and then explained to me the limits of how much you could purchase of one of these meds in a single month.

 

[TheKingOfKool]

Correct, and the FDA HATES natural supplements because they want a piece of that pie too. They banned Epehdrine, which really, truly worked for some people on weight loss, but then I heard it's allowed again, haven't kept up on it.

whats the difference between a supplement and a drug? they get vitamins and stuff out of plants and nicotine is from a tobacco plant. whats the difference?

 

[taz3cat]

Some plants are forbidden, and most drugs come from plants and the FDA tells us which are drugs. If we can enjoy it too much it is a regulated drug. Vitimins are not much fun to take.

 

[Vapor Pete]

It is used to make Methamphetimine. Speed, ...., Crystal, Whatever you want to call it. Ephedrine is the main ingredient. They would buy hundreds of packages and "cook" it down with propylene (they called it prope dope) to make the ..... Hence the ban and in California anyway the need to pick up a card off the shelf and give it to the pharmiscist to get cold medicine.

Ah yes! You are correct! I've forgotten my days busting those kids for stealing the stuff to make speed and all that. It all just came back to me! LOL
And yeah, we have to do the same: Get card, go to pharm counter, get cold meds.
My best,
-VP

 

[jmoney]

Where I am, you can purchase Ephedrin but you have to go to the pharmacist to get it, then they take your name and track how many times you buy it. From my understanding, they are doing this because kids were using it to make drug coctails.
My best,
-VP

its banned in most parts of texas and all around the border because it was being used to make crystal ...., but i think you can get it with a valid drivers license and something like the same process you have

 

[saintgadreel]

Ephedrine is prescription only in Oregon. You can't even get it OTC anymore here. I believe Washington just passed that too. It's ridiculous to have to get a prescription for COLD MEDICINE, but hey, thats how this country runs these days.

The sad fact is that the more "simple pleasures" you remove and make unavailable, the more likely something worse will take its place. .... was that very drug only a decade ago, coming in as a cheap alternative to other, harder to get drugs.

Now we're just whittling away at the last few manageable, relatively safe recreational drugs we have left. I wonder how long until someone ACTUALLY tries to ban alcohol in the US again. I guarantee you we will see it happen in the next 20 years . We have this nasty tendency to forget mistakes we've already made....

 

[Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah]

Now we're just whittling away at the last few manageable, relatively safe recreational drugs we have left. I wonder how long until someone ACTUALLY tries to ban alcohol in the US again. I guarantee you we will see it happen in the next 20 years . We have this nasty tendency to forget mistakes we've already made....

It's a vicious circle - that's for sure.... those who forget their history will repeat it..

Unfortunately, with all the regs being shoved down our throats, the more the nanny state tries to protect us from ourselves, the more the government takes away our personal liberties and fundamental rights, the angrier the citizenry gets.

The tea parties protesting high taxes is just the beginning... I'm waiting for the revolution....all it's going to take is one, very charismatic individual with the right backing, and there will be a change in government all right, at gunpoint....

and that scares me silly!

 

[JonHarm]

Guys, guys.

Pseudoephedrine is used in the reduction reaction to Methamphetamine, ephedrine is not. There is an important difference, although one WOULD be able to do a reaction with stock ephedrine, it would be more difficult than the bathtub chemists could pull off.

Ephedrine was "banned" because people were taking it instead of speed for, to put it in DEA terms, a "structurally similar" high.

Also, overseas sources of pseudoephedrine are still readily availible for these scumbags to react with, and many are doing it with the easier to procure ingredients in the hydroidoic acid reduction.

The things you learn in Nebraska.

 

[puff-puff-pass]

Guys, guys.

Pseudoephedrine is used in the reduction reaction to Methamphetamine, ephedrine is not. There is an important difference, although one WOULD be able to do a reaction with stock ephedrine, it would be more difficult than the bathtub chemists could pull off.

Ephedrine was "banned" because people were taking it instead of speed for, to put it in DEA terms, a "structurally similar" high.

Also, overseas sources of pseudoephedrine are still readily availible for these scumbags to react with, and many are doing it with the easier to procure ingredients in the hydroidoic acid reduction.

The things you learn in Nebraska.

For a person with magical looking mushrooms in an avatar...I would be inclined to think you know what you are talking about Am I right or what!