If a ban does come it would have to involve just the juice as in Australia, so anyone stocking up..that's probably a good place to focus.
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Well how stinkin true is that?! One of the flea markets near my location not only sells bongs, but 'bowls' as well. They come in little kits! How is that acceptable?!!
And I have been working on becoming a distributor in my area as this is prime location. Doesnt this just screw my world up?
GRRRRRR.....
Just vaporizers. That's all they are. Just sell the ones that look like penlights and get rid of the cigarette appearance to begin with and it should be all good. Maybe. Still - like other articles have pointed out - the issue is not necessarily the device. It's the behavior it mimics. Some people can not get past that.
I would rather a serial killer have a rubber knife than a real one. That is the stupidest logic I have ever heard.
If you peruse the FDA website (U S Food and Drug Administration Home Page), you can see several instances of shipments of electronic cigarettes and cartridges that apparently were never released. This includes shipments from one of Janty's bigger suppliers. The two primary reasons the shipments were stopped by the FDA were referred to as UNAPPROVED and NOT LISTED. I have not researched this enough to know if these were problems with the labelling of the product, improper licesning of the shipper or receiver or a general crackdown prompted by internal memos and whatnot.
UNAPPROVED - Section: 505(a), 801(a)(3); UNAPPROVED NEW DRUG Charge: The article appears to be a new drug without an approved new drug application.
NOT LISTED - Section: 502(o), 801(a)(3); MISBRANDING Charge: It appears the drug or device is not included in a list required by Section 510(j), or a notice or other information respecting it was not provided as required by section 510(j) or 510(k).
UNAPPROVED - Section: 505(a), 801(a)(3); UNAPPROVED NEW DRUG Charge: The article appears to be a new drug without an approved new drug application.
NOT LISTED - Section: 502(o), 801(a)(3); MISBRANDING Charge: It appears the drug or device is not included in a list required by Section 510(j), or a notice or other information respecting it was not provided as required by section 510(j) or 510(k).
Rubber knife....These people are a real piece of work.
I suppose their point is a little like saying, well why would you drive a hybrid? It's still runs just like a car, and cars are bad for the environment. Although Hybrids do have less emissions they still run on gas.....BAD BAD BAD!
I suppose their point is a little like saying, well why would you drive a hybrid? It's still runs just like a car, and cars are bad for the environment. Although Hybrids do have less emissions they still run on gas.....BAD BAD BAD!
Perhaps the marketing that will come to hurt us most is : 'it's a way around the smoking ban'.
Need to not say this, and make no health claims (stupid indeed, but these days even a vitamin can't make a health claim!), including that its a way to stop smoking (again, stupid), and not mention smoking even (except that its an alternative to smoking). Even if all these points of entry for intereference are closed, they might prohibit or restrict sale of nicotine liquids. And for those of us who like their nicotine, this is the one thing that would be difficult to be self-sufficient in. Just hope sense prevails, but government/lovvyists/big business does not work according to common sense; illogical laws happen because its not really about health, its about power and profit for those with the power.
Need to not say this, and make no health claims (stupid indeed, but these days even a vitamin can't make a health claim!), including that its a way to stop smoking (again, stupid), and not mention smoking even (except that its an alternative to smoking). Even if all these points of entry for intereference are closed, they might prohibit or restrict sale of nicotine liquids. And for those of us who like their nicotine, this is the one thing that would be difficult to be self-sufficient in. Just hope sense prevails, but government/lovvyists/big business does not work according to common sense; illogical laws happen because its not really about health, its about power and profit for those with the power.
"I understand why people use the nicotine replacement aids,'' said Serena Chen, regional tobacco policy director of the American Lung Association in California. "But I don't understand why people want to pretend that they're smoking.''
Who gives a crap if you understand it? I don't understand why they asked someone from the ALA anyway, it's not a cigarette!
Who gives a crap if you understand it? I don't understand why they asked someone from the ALA anyway, it's not a cigarette!
Or maybe this is the workings of our Big Tobacco buddies..WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS...I see posts on here that has been viewed more than 22,000 times on one single thread..How many members do we actually have World-wide on this forum alone??? Surely with our outstanding numbers we can do something about this bullsh*t.
Being pollution free, harmless and odorless to others and the environment, containing only 3 main ingredients of 4,000 to a regular cigarette. We can have so many pressing arguments and key elements to stop electronic cigarettes from being illegal. WE NEED TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD!
Being pollution free, harmless and odorless to others and the environment, containing only 3 main ingredients of 4,000 to a regular cigarette. We can have so many pressing arguments and key elements to stop electronic cigarettes from being illegal. WE NEED TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD!
Maybe they need to ban pens and pencils too... after all, Johnny Carson had those special 'eraser at both ends' pencils to figit with when he quit.
At this point forward, it is up to companies like Njoy to do what's right and represent the e-smoking movement for what it truly is. BS and lies aside. Yes, no long-term tests have been done on the effects of inhaling PG/VG. Yes, there aren't any overall documentations on the risks of long-term e-smoking in general, but fact of the matter is, they were never, or should never be advertised as a cessation device, or an aid of any sort. It is simply an alternative to smoking.
Anyone who chooses to use this device as a quit smoking aid is indeed making a healthy and positive choice, but it's their choice, not the intended advertisement of the product. If I were to jog 30 minutes a day to quit smoking, that would be my personal aid. Same thing applies for electronic cigarettes.
Also, I say Njoy because they are probably the biggest and most commercially successful company on the market right now, and it also helps that they are an American company because it's always easier to deal with issues in-house.
Honestly though, a year from now, I see e-liquids being highly regulated. Probably nothing over 12mg in strength. Same goes for cartridges.
Anyone who chooses to use this device as a quit smoking aid is indeed making a healthy and positive choice, but it's their choice, not the intended advertisement of the product. If I were to jog 30 minutes a day to quit smoking, that would be my personal aid. Same thing applies for electronic cigarettes.
Also, I say Njoy because they are probably the biggest and most commercially successful company on the market right now, and it also helps that they are an American company because it's always easier to deal with issues in-house.
Honestly though, a year from now, I see e-liquids being highly regulated. Probably nothing over 12mg in strength. Same goes for cartridges.
I'm gonna get some tic-tacs and pretend it's extasy. I hope the FDA doesn't ban those.
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