Court Says FDA Authority Over E-Cigarettes Is Limited - WSJ.com
Not sure if you guys had sen this yet.
Not sure if you guys had sen this yet.
FDA Loses!!
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I would love to read it but I don't subscribe to WSJ and it wants a login.
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Courtesy of B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr in the New Member forum...
FDA Loses Appeal, Can’t Regulate E-Cigarettes as Drug - BusinessWeek
FDA Loses Appeal, Can’t Regulate E-Cigarettes as Drug - BusinessWeek
Here is a link to a free article. If you search good enough, you can probably find the pdf file of the rulings.
Appeals court ruling is victory for electronic cigarette makers, users | cleveland.com
Appeals court ruling is victory for electronic cigarette makers, users | cleveland.com
If it's anything other than a tobacco product, it would fall under the FDA's regime. So it's a tobacco product...
Personally, I've always thought PV's should be marketed as Flavor Vaporizers.
Actually much of the nicotine used to make e-liquid comes from tobacco leaves.
I wouldn't get to excited. It is not going to get better for us who vape or any of the suppliers of flavored juice. Unless your company name has Njoy in it.
Pamela and I are working hard to make sure we are fully in copliance with fda. hence the osha inspections. hence the spectro analysis, hence the quality production system we have.
We have always fully expected this.
The day and age of making juices in your house, or garage, or whatever are soon to be over. We are way ahead of that curve.
Thanks to all who have fully supported our endeavours to be in full compliance long before it comes...
We have always fully expected this.
The day and age of making juices in your house, or garage, or whatever are soon to be over. We are way ahead of that curve.
Thanks to all who have fully supported our endeavours to be in full compliance long before it comes...
Pamela and I are working hard to make sure we are fully in copliance with fda. hence the osha inspections. hence the spectro analysis, hence the quality production system we have.
We have always fully expected this.
The day and age of making juices in your house, or garage, or whatever are soon to be over. We are way ahead of that curve.
Thanks to all who have fully supported our endeavours to be in full compliance long before it comes...
always nice when you have hitched your wagon to a winner!
Thanks again David & Pam... and now Mistress Nomad too
for everything you guys are doing to stay out in front of this...it can only be beneficial for us all!
Pamela and I are working hard to make sure we are fully in copliance with fda. hence the osha inspections. hence the spectro analysis, hence the quality production system we have.
We have always fully expected this.
The day and age of making juices in your house, or garage, or whatever are soon to be over. We are way ahead of that curve.
Thanks to all who have fully supported our endeavours to be in full compliance long before it comes...
+100 for you and Pamela. I believe you are on the right track and trying to stay ahead of the game. I have been in Quality Assurance for the past 15 years.......Let me know if you need a Quality Manager...........LoL......... Maybe down the road you should look at ISO certification just for verification of your process.
It goes much further actually. It sets a precedent and provides case law for any future proceedings like this. One of the first things a court asks is what precedents and case law there is regarding the matter before them. It also means that it would likely take an act of congress to ban e cigarettes. This is great news.
Now we know there will be upcoming taxation since the FDA lost and will be whining to congress to impose a sin tax on stuff. I would think that they could only increase taxes upon the bulk liquid nicotine since thats the only part that is tobacco derived. But could they also tax the hardware or the spare parts other than the kits? Guess we'll have to wait and see.
It is a win, but being classified as a tobacco product can only mean, in the long run, taxes both at the state and federal level.
Dave, couldn't this ruling directly lead to banning of falvored nicotine juice, other than "Tobacco" and "Menthol" flavors? To avoid the charge of marketing to kids?
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Thanks,
It would be hard to tax 0 nic juice because it would not be a tabacco product then. But I do agree that flavored juice that contains any nic will be taxed on both state and federal levels. The question is how will they enforce this.
More than likely they would have to sell the e-liquid and flavorings separate from each other and the consumer would have to combine them. That would be the only way I could see it happening.
Screw the FDA...I'm just glad they can't ban them...of course there will be taxes, but with the internet, who pays taxes anyway? Use tax is paid on a state level, if you are honest enough to pay it, which most aren't.
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