FDA Takes On Mayonnaise

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crxess

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Years Ago Government would not let this be advertised for sale as an Automobile due to it's Chain drive:confused:

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Thought they were stupid(corrupt) then. Think they are stupid now.
 
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Years Ago Government would not let this be advertised for sale as an Automobile due to it's Chain drive:confused:

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Thought they were stupid(corrupt) then. Think they are stupid now.

That Honda 600 is a go-kart.
It's cool as it gets tho!
I saw one in the bank parking lot about 6 months ago!

And yes, the FDA and most branches of our government are horribly corrupt.


It's all about food safety and advertising. I don't want to accidentally eat something specifically formulated for vegans...

Nor do I.
All the vegans I know look malnourished and get sick often.
 
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My friend, who was a hardcore meat eater that even cursed the lettuce on a hamburger kindly reminded the salad eaters: "My food ....s on yours."



That's hysterical. :D I loves me some lettuce; the Arby's in the small town we lived in for 13 yrs always hollered "hey, the lettuce lady is back!" everytime I walked in the door -- their roast chicken club or market fresh turkey are both great, and I like 'em with so much lettuce it's like a whole salad on a bun. :D And onions, and swiss cheese, maybe a little ranch dressing. Only thing better is maybe the chik-filet chicken salad bowl... a ginormous salad with pretty much everything, including 4 of their amaaaaaaaaaaaazing chicken tenders, and again, ranch dressing.

I really don't think it's terribly healthy to deny your body food that it clearly evolved to consume and digest -- we have a couple different kinds of teeth for that reason; if all we were supposed to eat was vegetative type foods, we'd have flat teeth like cows and horses -- but we have biters, so clearly, there should be some meat in our diets. Not too much -- I read that Americans eat about 500% more meat than they need, which is one reason for the obesity epidemic. But healthy people generally eat a wide variety of foods.

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Mayonnaise is the best condiment on earth...

Turkey sandwiches = mayonnaise
Chicken sandwiches = mayonnaise
Ham sandwiches = mayonnaise or mustard or both
Hot dogs = mayonnaise and mustard
Hamburgers = mayonnaise and mustard
French Fries = mayonnaise based tartar sauce or ranch dressing

Ketchup sucks.

I will reluctantly accept ketchup on my fries.
But only if the supplier of said fries doesn't have the proper requisite condiments available.

I will not, however, accept fake mayonnaise.
Under any circumstances.

Ketchup is the only thing to have with meatloaf.
I'll give it that, but nothing more.
:)

You didn't speak of Mustard. One of the finest things on earth. :)

There is a famous hamburger joint in New Haven CT that has been around for 100+ years, back when all the toasters were open flame and you put the toast vertically on eitehr side of it in a toaster-like contraption. they still use those.

they make hamburgers by hand, each patty that you get, and with the very best meat there is.

There are NO condiments there, and you don't ask for any. You get a burger on toasted bread, with tomato and onion if you want.

Their philosphy is that, if the meat is good, you don't NEED ketchup.

Anyway, I forgot what it's called but it's very famous. And tis true, you don't need ketchup or anything else, and they are the best burgers I"ve ever had. :)
 
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Lack of B12. It's only available from animal sources.

Andria

IN the UK, everyone eats Marmite. That is how you get B12 and can still be a vegan. It's like nutritional yeast.

It's a moot point anyway, even the animals are all on supplements since they are not really "grazing"....so like them, since most food the way it's grown in the depleted soils we have, (not to mention the heavy antibiotics given to animals) I just take a vitamin supplement daily anyway. (I mean, I need extra vitamin D, too, and so do most people because they don't spend enough time outdoors in the sun anymore. )

so many people take a vitamin C supplement or a Vit D. supplement in winter.........so, I dunno WHY they have problems with vegans taking a B12 supplement????? guess it's kinda a prejudice against vegans or something?

As for us being meat eaters, we don't have the sharp claws that most meat eaters have to rip prey apart, nor the same canine teeth as say, my dogs. I've inspected mountain lion teeth up close and personal....ours are not anything like those, either.

I would say we are more omnivoires, actually. So, we can eat both meat and plants, but should probably eat more plants than we do. ;)

By the way, where do you think animals that we eat GET their Vitamin B12? In the wild, I understand it's from natural b-12 obtained from bacteria feeding on plant matter, i.e. unwashed plant matter, which is why grazing is good. Now since they are not grazing even THEY are given supplements. :lol: There is quite a lot of literature about humans who were mostly gatherers getting their B12 precisely from eating plant matter that wasn't "over washed".

The supplements given to factory farmed pigs (and other animals who are forced to live an entirely unnatural life) would make your head spin.

I guess i'm not so against taking a simple vitamin pill every day, and I do, because I don't think I"m going to get it from our over processed Big Agriculture, nor from the kind of "not normal" animals that are raised in factory farms. :(
 

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I'm gonna sell you some "just ejuice".
It's not gonna have any PG or VG or flavorings that you normally use, but I'm not gonna tell you that directly....( I'll print the ingredients on the back In Fine print). because I want to change what the public perceives as "ejuice".
:) I'll sell it right along side your favorite juices with a similar label so you can a pay up before you realize that I've got you to try it.
It's pretty nasty BTW, but with my overhead I only need you buy one bottle.
:)

Sounds good right?

This is your response for justifying FDA intrusion into a market?

How about I'll buy your product, decide whether or not I like it, and either way, we keep mommy dearest out of the equation?

Sound good?
 

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Lack of B12. It's only available from animal sources.

Andria

As Racehorse has already pointed out nutritional yeast is an excellent source of B12. Non vegans should look in to it as a cheaper alternative to B12 shots.

Another unusual source of B12 is vegan bubble gum, Google bfreshgum if your curious. Love the taste of bubble gum yet was very disappointed in it as a vape flavor. Does not taste like gum at any concentration and ruins the taste of any flavor that follows.

Oh, reminds me I want to change back to my original avatar. Cute as my (stolen) little bee is, it makes me look like a tootle puffero_O
 
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Just leaving this in case anyone is interested or BIG BROTHER is monitoring-lol


The word mayonnaise was not used for a sauce before the start of the nineteenth century. The earliest reference appears to be by Alexandre Viard (1806), who however never quite gives a recipe for the sauce itself.[7] At that point, the sauce was made with aspic or jelly, rather than an egg emulsion. In 1815, Louis Eustache Ude wrote:

No 58.—Mayonnaise.
Take three spoonfuls of Allemande, six ditto of aspic, and two of oil. Add a little tarragon vinegar, that has not boiled, some pepper and salt, and minced ravigotte, or merely some parsley. Then put in the members of fowl, or fillets of soles, &c. Your mayonnaise must be put to ice; neither are you to put the members into your sauce till it begins to freeze. Next dish your meat or fish, mask with the sauce before it be quite frozen, and garnish your dish with whatever you think proper, as beet root, jelly, nasturtiums, &c.[8]
Mayonnaise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We have come a long way baby:facepalm:

The aspic version and the emulsified version would co-exist for some time before the more familiar emulsified version became standard.

This tells me it has little to do with being Vegan only. :sneaky:
More to do with politics and opinion.;)
 

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Just leaving this in case anyone is interested or BIG BROTHER is monitoring-lol



Mayonnaise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We have come a long way baby:facepalm:



This tells me it has little to do with being Vegan only. :sneaky:
More to do with politics and opinion.;)


Why is it so hard to be honest?
Because honesty cuts into profits.

I don't "support the FDA" that's a blanket statement that doesn't apply to any post I've made.

I support honesty in labeling.
( honesty in everything, actually).

Want more profit? Make a better product.

If you have to mislead or be sneaky it shows you don't have confidence in your own product, so why should the consumer?

Funny how some fear honestyhonesty
 
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