Feeling awkward vaping in places...

[bander68]

Pur3rush, while I agree on principle with you, as a new non-smoker, I would rather remain anonymous and enjoy that I'm not "that guy"for a change.

 

[Astronomer]

I agree Amy, I dont feel awkward at all, and I am vaping an eGo-T with a 1000mah battery ( the thing is big )

I enjoy it when people ask me about it, I am very enthusiastic about it, I would just not rather be “in their face” about it.

I had one friend who is very very opposed to smoking, saw me using this, went outside with me, was shocked and then invited me to go ahead and use it in his house.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar

 

[rdmiller3]

As far as I can tell, the whole purpose of PG or VG in the fluid is to make the vapor visible. How important is it that the vapor be visible though? Couldn't the flavor and nicotine be delivered by water vapor without PG or VG and thus leave no telltale "smoke"?

Then if you're using this "stealth liquid" and a PV which doesn't look too much like a cigarette, people probably would just think you're chewing on a pen or something.

 

[jlarsen]

I don't vape in stores, but I do in bars/casinos.

 

[scootertramp]

I vape wherever I feel like it. Love the funny looks I get. Was a witness to an accident in a parking lot and sat and waited for my turn to give a statement and loved watching the cops watching me. When the first young cop came over he couldn't take his eyes off it! I just keep vaping away! I looked at him like "really, you think I would be doing something illegal right in your face?" Can't wait for my P 16 to get here, the mini supers look like "one hitters" to me, not look a like analogs...now that should turn some heads! Wooohooo, I love my PV!!!! Hey anyone try the new Kanger carto yet? Waiting on that one too!!!!!!!!

 

[wv2win]

I have to chime in here.

There are few places I don't vape: Church, court, restaurants, peoples homes who have not okayed it.

Other than that, I vape everywhere, walmart, bank, grocery store, every other store. Nobody has said anything to me yet. Some people give wierd looks, honestly most people don't notice at all. Even if they do notice they don't care.

I'll tell you why, I'm not hiding, I'm not ashamed, nor am I sensitive about what other people will say. When you stealth vape, you send the message that you are doing something wrong, or something you aren't comfortable with.

Within 5 seconds of someone lighting a cigarette you know exactly what it is and where its coming from. So although people may not know what a PV is, they know 1 thing: ITS NOT A CIGARETTE.

I disagree with the I don't vape where I wouldn't smoke. I VAPE EVERYWHERE BECAUSE IM NOT SMOKING.

There is a current cowardice mantra of: If we aren't sensitive to other people blah blah blah, it will be banned or whatever. Newsflash, no matter what you do, the powers that be will attempt to ban it regardless. Grow a backbone, stand tall, and be proud that you are saving your life by vaping. If you are going to hide it, stand outside and vape in the cold you should have stuck with ciggies. Your bad.

+1, especially about growing a backbone. It is our life, our health and our responsibility to respectfully educate the uninformed. We can't do that if we act like we are doing something harmful.

 

[wv2win]

To each their own.... my answer is simple.

For me, I don’t

There is a lot of backlash from... where is the list

The FDA
The tobacco industry
Rabid anti-smokers
believe it or not... some smokers
Big Pharma
The airline industry
Both political parties

the list goes on

E-Cigs have gotten kind of a bad rap.... so... I treat them exactly like a cigarette, I smoke where smoking a cigarette is allowed, and am never where they are not. I don’t ask to vape in the home of someone that does not, but I do invite them to come outside and let me show it to them.

The less "in your face" we are about it, and the more educational we are, particularly with other smokers ( who are smoking where smoking is allowed ) the more courteous we are, the further we will go.

Being able to smoke where smoking was not allowed was never ever a push for me to do this... so I treat it exactly like smoking a cigarette.

Actions speak much louder than words. Your actions are telling everyone that vaping is just as dangerous as smoking and should be banned. Perception is reality and that is the perception you are demonstrating.

 

[xscorpio]

We plan on where ever possible. Obviously we'll run into obstacles here and there, but the way I see it the education of others is part of the journey. Of course, we're not going to push the envelope when it comes to airlines and things like that.

 

[Astronomer]

LOL

I don’t act like I am doing something harmful, not at all.

I have more backbone than you want to try to test

But I am a courteous person, and I want e-cigs to succeed, 90% of the time we are on private property, on public property I would vape without thinking twice.

But people have a right to have a say on who does what on private property

A restaurant is private property, a bar is private property, with the permission of the proprietor I would ( and have ) gladly vape there, but I am not going to do so without their permission. I have my rights and defend them, so do they. And stomping on the rights of others is not the way to get a point across.

I am not telling you what you need to do, or how to act, nor am *I criticizing the decisions you make, but you are implying things about others here, do me a favor, don’t step on others that may have a different and valid opinion and act differently than you do.

 

[ctourtelot]

My reasons are for courtesy. I don't feel awkward about people seeing me vape at all and I love sharing pv and vaping info with anyone who asks. One is use to odd looks when they vape this, its not something one can hide.

Though I do recall the times you could smoke anywhere, including a doctor's office, not being allowed to smoke in stores etc came into play long before smoking got even more taboo. I just think it goes right up with with people who feel the need to be all over each other making out in public. Some places are just more acceptable than others. One must just use their grown up judgment.

As far as just feeling awkward, I think that is normal for a lot of people who have just started vaping but once who get the chance to explain what you are doing to curious people, the awkwardness starts to go away.

Gracious! That thing is terrifying lol I tried a chuck and i'll admit..awesome hit, but I don't think I'd be brave enough to sport that in public. My tornado is the biggest e-cig I take out and about with me.

btw AWESOME!!

 

[wv2win]

LOL

I don’t act like I am doing something harmful, not at all.

I have more backbone than you want to try to test

But I am a courteous person, and I want e-cigs to succeed, 90% of the time we are on private property, on public property I would vape without thinking twice.

But people have a right to have a say on who does what on private property

A restaurant is private property, a bar is private property, with the permission of the proprietor I would ( and have ) gladly vape there, but I am not going to do so without their permission. I have my rights and defend them, so do they. And stomping on the rights of others is not the way to get a point across.

I am not telling you what you need to do, or how to act, nor am *I criticizing the decisions you make, but you are implying things about others here, do me a favor, don’t step on others that may have a different and valid opinion and act differently than you do.

I have stated emphatically that we must be respectful. I agree completely that the wishes of the owners of any establishment must be respected and adhered to. As I stated previously, I always ask the waiter or owner of any resturant if I can vape and show them my PV and educate them as to what it is and isn't. If they ask me not to, I don't. Respect and courtesy is rule one.

But I don't agree with the implication that we should automatically only vape with the smokers or in designated smoking areas or hide that we vape. You stated that PV's should be treated just like cigarettes and that is what you do. Cigarettes are dangerous and harmful so your actions state that vaping is equally dangerous and harmful. That is exactly what the "ant's" want to see and hear and believe.

 

[Astronomer]

Agreed for the most part, all I ask is not to assume someone that has a different opinion, or different "action" than you decide to do is lacking backbone in some way.

I act they way I do out of a choice of my own, and out of respect for others, not out of a fear, or lack of moral courage.

You and I have different approaches, which is fine.

But it is not because of some kind of deficiency on my part, that was what I objected to in your post.

My own decision to treat it exactly like smoking is exactly that, my decision, not fear, not a lack of moral courage, but a decision that I consciously made. I am not criticizing your decision to act differently than that, this is a free country, I only ask that you not make assumptions about other people because they may decide differently than you do.

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p.s I did not state they should be treated exactly like smoking, I stated that I decided to treat it like smoking, at least for now, as people become more informed that changes, and has already changed in a bar I frequent, and a restaurant as well as the proprietors were curious

 

[wv2win]

Agreed for the most part, all I ask is not to assume someone that has a different opinion, or different "action" than you decide to do is lacking backbone in some way.

I act they way I do out of a choice of my own, and out of respect for others, not out of a fear, or lack of moral courage.

You and I have different approaches, which is fine.

But it is not because of some kind of deficiency on my part, that was what I objected to in your post.

My own decision to treat it exactly like smoking is exactly that, my decision, not fear, not a lack of moral courage, but a decision that I consciously made. I am not criticizing your decision to act differently than that, this is a free country, I only ask that you not make assumptions about other people because they may decide differently than you do.

I never mentioned the word "backbone" in replying to your post. I never inferred that you don't have backbone and I have no reason to believe that.

My arguement is with your position on vaping, not with you. I believe strongly that your position, as expressed through your actions, will lead to vaping being banned in more and more places. Associating vaping with smoking through actions, acting as if it is just like smoking, will quite naturally send the message to the public in general that it is as dangerous as smoking. And thus, it should be banned. Too many non-smokers already view vaping as just another way to smoke and they actually should see it in that light based on many vapers acting like it is just another way to smoke. If I was in their position, I would logically want it to be banned as it should be based on that perception.

 

[TheAlabamaRambler]

... I waited too long to switch cuz I didn't take it serious maybe if I seen more of them I would have.

Agreed. I have known about the eCig for a long time but until I spent a day in the car going to the Mardi Gras parades with an eCig user I didn't pay much attention. Now I am looking forward to my first order and trying it out.

 

[Astronomer]

+1, especially about growing a backbone. It is our life, our health and our responsibility to respectfully educate the uninformed. We can't do that if we act like we are doing something harmful.

this is what I objected to

 

[Astronomer]

For me, so far my position has it being now allowed in 2 places where it was not before.

Because the proprietors were curious when I showed them what I was going to step outside and do, and that I was very respectful of their private establishments.

I am not saying you are wrong in your approach, do me a favor and don’t assume I am either.

 

[r4tlu0v]

I've been vaping for a few days now, I haven't touched an analog sense. And yes, I can certainly say that vaping is initially awkward in the beginning amongst the public. Hopefully it's something that will become second-nature, as smoking had become.

 

[wv2win]

this is what I objected to

And as you know, it was not directed at you as it was not part of any post you made so don't imply it was.

 

[wv2win]

For me, so far my position has it being now allowed in 2 places where it was not before.

Because the proprietors were curious when I showed them what I was going to step outside and do, and that I was very respectful of their private establishments.

I am not saying you are wrong in your approach, do me a favor and don’t assume I am either.

Again, I am not against you personally. But I am against actions that imply that vaping is just like smoking and is dangerous. Your own words state that PV's and cigarettes should be treated the same. That will be bad for all of us who vape.

 

[Astronomer]

Well then I am not referring to you when I say that people that have a different opinion or approaches then others do is not due to some kind of deficiency on their part.

Different approaches is a good thing, which is why it is good in a forum like this to hear different opinions and approaches.

And that is perfectly ok if someone decides for themselves to treat it like smoking, and be courteous and respectful of private establishments.


p.s. sorry if I got my back up a little bit there, we should probably let this drop. I understand your position, and agree with parts of it. I don’t need you to agree with me, but I would like you to understand that my decision to treat it as I do, is exactly that... my own. Im am not at all advocating that the law treat it the same, or that even bars and restaurants do, but I still think you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

I didn’t start vaping so I could vape where I could not smoke, that was and is not even a consideration, and at least for me, is not the main point of vaping anyway.