Fogger V4!!

[BobC]

I'm having this issue with my 50/50 e-liquid. What I got to work was patience. Just very slowly squeeze the nipple bottle. I let it take close to a minute to fill but my wicks stopped moving.

You can fill from the top, close AFC unscrew and fill to brim of the glass

 

[AMDTrucking]

I also modified my top cap as it was described earlier in this thread and I love it. Two screw: One to fill your juice and the other to let the air to escape. Works wonders. Now I don't even have to take the Fogger off the mod to fill up and it seems to take more liquid in. A little drilling and threading does pay off. Thank you the original poster of this modification!

 

[AmandaD]

I recoiled again this morning - eventually I'll get it right with no dry hits and no leaking, but so far I seem to get either one or the other. But, the website says it holds 6ml - mine only holds 3ml?

 

[BobC]

Newest version barely holds 3ml

 

[VapinSweetZ]

I also saw it here. A little cheaper, but after I asked him to post pics of the deck, the positive block appears to be copper so I passed on this one.
Hope this helps you out.

Many thanks!
But isnt the "v4.2" supposed to come with copper positive screw? I thought they added that in the v4+ rev.

 

[Tbev]

I just ordered and confirmed with vapor beast that is the version with the smaller deck and the copper pin, the version 4.2, get em while there hot! My dad's been running his version with the big deck and he does have to fill it up a few times a day running it on his vv mod @1.4ohm

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[Tbev]

No copper screws tho

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[AMDTrucking]

Newest version barely holds 3ml

Actually, by filling from the top, I was able to put something around 5 Ml

I think, because they are now making 28 mm "Big Fogger" that is made for 26650 Mods and holds 10 Ml of juice, they are using the same Deck design. Only in a "Small Fogger" that large Deck is taking too much room sacrificing the tank capacity. I might be wrong.


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[VapinSweetZ]

That makes chinese sense.

 

[SINphul]

I'm glad you took my suggestion the right way instead of getting ...... of, because my intention indeed was to help you improve your Fogger V4.3 vaping experience. For your next re-build, try to position your coils precisely above the air holes - you'll see what the difference that makes. Good job!
Because unlike Kayfun (which will generally work any which way you build it, unless you did something really wrong) this Fogger V4.3 has very little tolerance to user error. But when you get it right - it kicks Kayfun's .... Just think about it: The best Atomizer is the Dripper. Now look how you have your Fogger built? - Like a Dripper. Only, instead of having to drip every now and then, you have your cotton wicks constantly fed from the bottom through those juice channels. Therefore you've got the best of both Worlds. Only those channels are big enough to pass e-liquid through, but not big enough to have them stuffed with wicking material. Unlike in Aqua Tank and the Ithaka where you actually stuff your wicks in those channels. I actually re-built my Ithaka in the similar to Fogger fashion by leaving the vertical juice channels empty and it is performing on par with my Fogger now. The only concern is whether it will flood if left alone for a while. So far it hasn't because I close the Juice Control every time I leave it along.

I was having wicking issues too when stuffing the channels with cotton. Less cotton didn't help things. Did just this. Left my cotton just at the top of the vertical channel without stuffing it inside (similar to how I setup my Kayfun wicks). Wicks like a dream now. Glad to see others are getting similar results

 

[AMDTrucking]

I just finished modifying my Fogger V4.3 with two 2.5 mm Top Fill Screws. It now holds 4 Ml of E-Liquid and allows for Top Filling.
How should we call it? A version 4.3.0.0.1 I guess...

 

[TheKiwi]

I just finished modifying my Fogger V4.3 with two 2.5 mm Top Fill Screws. It now holds 4 Ml of E-Liquid and allows for Top Filling.
How should we call it? A version 4.3.0.0.1 I guess...

So... How about a guide for someone who is hardware+power tools-......ed? That looks brilliant.


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[Tbev]

There's quite e bit of work there with some tools that are more expensive than the atty.

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[Claviger]

Stroke of brilliance on the top cap fill hole mod. Will be doing it soon.

I have been absent from the thread for awhile, but my Fv4 (original/best version) is happy sitting on my custom 110watt VV box mod NO it can't keep up at full power lol. It does well around 50 though!

What is this nonsense about a larger deck and reduced capacity, insanity (starts eyeing 24 ga kanthal)!

 

[AMDTrucking]

So... How about a guide for someone who is hardware+power tools-......ed? That looks brilliant.


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I found this on Post #728, Page 73 of this thread and thought that it was a good idea. I'm like a Chinese cloner, just copied somebody else's idea and don't want to take credit for it.
I drilled two 2.0 mm holes in the top cap. It is pretty thick stainless steel, so use a drill press instead of hand power drill. Then I drilled 3.5 mm - 2.5 mm deep to have room for the screw heads to go in. Then I used a hand Tap to thread the holes for M2.5 by 0.45. Just because I had bunch of M 2.5 X 0.45 - 4mm long Stainless Steel Philips Screws I bought on Amazon.com some time ago. I had to use my Cheap Chinese lathe from Harbor Freight to cut down the Screw heads though, but you could just sand them or get the screws with smaller heads. For the seal under the screw any little O-Ring can be used. I cut a little piece of a drip bottle tip with the X-Acto knife. Done!

It is not required but it sure makes my life easier a whole lot. I highly recommend this modification to every Fogger V4.3 user. It only takes 20 minutes to make. I highly recommend using good quality drill bits and Taps (Not Harbor Freight brand) because 304 Stainless Steel is NOT an easy metal to deal with.

 

[AmandaD]

*sigh* I'm still having some small, but annoying problems with my 4.3. I'm running microcoils 1.5mm, 28 gauge at around 0.73 ohms. I know not to block the channels, use a small amount of cotton (you can't use much in those coils), and just put the tip of the cotton into the channels. I've tried leading the cotton to the channels, I've tried putting on the chimney and just gently poking the cotton into the channels. It still leaks occasionally, mainly when I adjust the very loose afc (it gets knocked out of place easily).

When I fill it up using the fill hole (with the afc closed) it leaks out of the drip tip. I could live with that, but the intermittent leaking around the afc is driving me crazy. Flavor is terrific, but it reminds me why I stopped using any sort of clearo - so much fiddling to get it right...

Am I missing something obvious? I've watched so many videos, read through this whole thread - I have no trouble with regular rdas, but something is escaping me here!

 

[bsoplinger]

I'm thinking that how much wick you want in the vertical juice channels is a function of e-liquid viscosity. A 100% PG needs some wick in them to keep it from flooding the chamber. A max VG e-liquid OTOH only needs wick at the channel to flow it to the coil. Almost all my e-liquid is 50/50 and I find putting wick barely in the channel, about 1 groove's worth of height is all I need to keep my coil saturated.

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[AMDTrucking]

*sigh* I'm still having some small, but annoying problems with my 4.3. I'm running microcoils 1.5mm, 28 gauge at around 0.73 ohms. I know not to block the channels, use a small amount of cotton (you can't use much in those coils), and just put the tip of the cotton into the channels. I've tried leading the cotton to the channels, I've tried putting on the chimney and just gently poking the cotton into the channels. It still leaks occasionally, mainly when I adjust the very loose afc (it gets knocked out of place easily).

When I fill it up using the fill hole (with the afc closed) it leaks out of the drip tip. I could live with that, but the intermittent leaking around the afc is driving me crazy. Flavor is terrific, but it reminds me why I stopped using any sort of clearo - so much fiddling to get it right...

Am I missing something obvious? I've watched so many videos, read through this whole thread - I have no trouble with regular rdas, but something is escaping me here!

If you don't mind me saying something about it. You see, in my opinion, filling this thing system is designed poorly. You can not use gravity to fill it up or syringe needle due to the design of the base. You are stuck with using snug fit bottle tip. When you squeeze it - you are forcing your juice in under pressure. But the air has to go somewhere. That said, the AFC ring doesn't really block the air completely. To really block the air - you can put an O-Ring around the Air holes and then turn your AFC ring to close the air fully. This will insure that no liquid will fill your air holes up. But still, when filled under pressure, some of your liquid will enter the chimney through the juice channels end will leak out from the drip tip. To minimize that, you need to be very patient and create as little pressure as possible, and take your time filling this tank up. Just remember this: "Pressure is a BAD thing" when filling your tank up. Unless you modify your top cap like shown above to get rid of this problem once in for all. In that modification I use two Top Cap Fill Holes: One to fill the tank and the other to allow the air to escape. I hope this helps. Best regards. -Mike-

PS: I forgot to mention: When filling the tank using the top fill holes, I close the AFC with an O-Ring completely and also press my finger on top of the drip tip to prevent the air from escaping through the drip tip, therefore absolutely no liquid could enter the chimney unintended. I fill it up under some pressure, until I see the liquid starting to show through the other hole. Then the tank is full and it took 4+ Ml of juice.

I really do use this method of building my Fogger V4.3 http://imgur.com/a/WYScK because not only it is the easiest way but because it works the best.

 

[Tbev]

Amanda, you may want to use a little bit more cotton, your on the right track with the small coils, I've been recommending less cotton to people who are using bigger coils, with your coils use the avg amount that I takes to wick them, and run it half way, maybe a tiny bit less, down the channels..... Your really close. You'll be all set soon.

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[bsoplinger]

Previous post made me think I should have mentioned filling. I too have the newest 4.3 version. Filling requires snugging up a nipple top bottle to the fill hole. Don't squeeze too hard or you'll force your wick from the juice channels. I barely squeeze taking at least 30 seconds to fill. Just be extremely patient and use a bit of care. That might explain your leaking problem also. Pushing too hard, trying to fill too fast, and you'll push the wick out of the juice channels for sure.

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