All I'm trying to say is it's not a genesis atomiser.
I could take a sock and put it on my hand, it's still a sock, not a glove.
I could take a sock and put it on my hand, it's still a sock, not a glove.
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Air intake hole is under the wick in the picture and I can see what could be mistaken as a hole on the side of the tube but I believe it's condensation buildup
So what is a true discription of a genesis. Are my lines with a dual U cotton wick still a genesis. Is the only true test that they have an side air hole?
I have built more than 40 cheap lines with all kind of wick configurations and thought they were all genesis.
I have built more than 40 cheap lines with all kind of wick configurations and thought they were all genesis.
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I'm not directing anything towards the title, It was more towards people who are worried that the small time mod makers who make genesis atomisers will go out of business because of this. Thereafter, everyone referred to it as a genesis atomiser.
Some people will mod this to be a genny, most won't. I'm not saying it would be hard to make it a genesis atty, what I'm saying is that it's not a genesis atomiser out of the packaging. Well actually it could be but the fact is it won't perform well unless modifications are made.
Genesis = SS mesh wick
That's it.
Which is easy enough to do on this but more is required for it to be anywhere near satisfactory.
Anyway, I'm fighting a losing battle. All against one.
I hope you guys get them set up as genesis atomisers, if you so choose, and that they work well.
Some people will mod this to be a genny, most won't. I'm not saying it would be hard to make it a genesis atty, what I'm saying is that it's not a genesis atomiser out of the packaging. Well actually it could be but the fact is it won't perform well unless modifications are made.
Genesis = SS mesh wick
That's it.
Which is easy enough to do on this but more is required for it to be anywhere near satisfactory.
Anyway, I'm fighting a losing battle. All against one.
I hope you guys get them set up as genesis atomisers, if you so choose, and that they work well.
Not being argumentative, just curious, been at this for almost 4 years and started using SS wool from the beginning, I did not know Genesis=SS wick or I would have stated it when I started the SS thread. Thanks. I really thought it had to do with the tank under. At my age it is good to learn something new and have always been bad with names. lol http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizer-mods/232081-just-stainless-steel-wick-filler.html
Thanks TomCatt, I was able to get in for two, they increased the order to 100 and the additional 50 were selected in just hrs.
I think a genny = oxidized SS mesh wick in direct contact with coil, no other wicking materials.
I can't really feel bad for current genny makers. They all got the idea from raidy and have capitalized on it. If they concentrate on quality and service they should be fine anyway, just look at GG products, China hasn't seemed to hurt demand for imeo's products.
I can't really feel bad for current genny makers. They all got the idea from raidy and have capitalized on it. If they concentrate on quality and service they should be fine anyway, just look at GG products, China hasn't seemed to hurt demand for imeo's products.
No probs BJ, it's hard to convey tone of voice in text.
I would suggest to those that are getting them to first try it with silica wick, you might be pleasantly suprised. I have three rebuildable attys that use silica and they perform well. It all comes down to the quality of the wick though. I've used different types of wick in the same atomiser and have varying levels of performance, even with wick of the same diameter and a rebuild with the same coil setup.
It's difficult to gauge the size of the wick holes from the pictures but you may need to increase them, sometimes they constrict the wick and restrict the wicking process. This would also be helpful to those that wish to mod for SS mesh. I've found a 3mm wickhole to be ideal for SS mesh.
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I've been vaping on my CE2s re-wicked with cotton for the past 5 or 6 weeks. I don't have any 'genesis-style' rebuildables yet; but am getting 2 of these atties, a Scubagen Mini and one of these "Bulli" atties. I may play around with SS mesh; but I'm a total cotton fanboy at present .
Cotton (and other non-silica, non-SS materials) wick thread - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/284030-wick-materials-safe-vs-dangerous.html
.Cotton (and other non-silica, non-SS materials) wick thread - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/284030-wick-materials-safe-vs-dangerous.html
Not sure that there's going to be a lot of activity here bjannr . The co-op's order is going out today; but it will be a few weeks before the Smok Tech tanks arrive. I'll try to remember to post some pics here; but who knows, I'm easily distracted and forgetful 
I've played with making a re-buildable CE2; but these re-buildables that I'm getting will be my first non-cobbled-together ones.
The 'Bulli' atty co-op has taken a strange turn - hope things work out
The Scubagen Mini co-op has hit a few snags; but I may get it around the same time as the Smok Tech tanks.
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oooo really not feeling good about getting a 'Bulli' atty any time soon
. The co-op's order is going out today; but it will be a few weeks before the Smok Tech tanks arrive. I'll try to remember to post some pics here; but who knows, I'm easily distracted and forgetful I've played with making a re-buildable CE2; but these re-buildables that I'm getting will be my first non-cobbled-together ones.
The 'Bulli' atty co-op has taken a strange turn - hope things work out
The Scubagen Mini co-op has hit a few snags; but I may get it around the same time as the Smok Tech tanks.
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really not feeling good about getting a 'Bulli' atty any time soon
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Not a glove, but with a little mod from a sharpie you would have a puppet.
But really, I have two of these coming and I am just watching for a rebuild...or whatever happens.
Not a glove, but with a little mod from a sharpie you would have a puppet.
But really, I have two of these coming and I am just watching for a rebuild...or whatever happens.
If you want a ScubaGen-style (Scubabatdan's genesis-style atty), no rebuilding needed. Just make Dan's U-wick and it should work as is - just may need some NR wire to go from coil ends to the posts. Or make the coil ends longer, bend the wire back on itself and twist like a bread-tie - this increases the resistance of the coil wire and will reduce/eliminate the 'glowing wire' syndrome.
I believe this is the video where Dan makes a U-wick:
I've found air flow to be crucial to vapour production on Genesis atomisers. I have the RATank which is very similar to the ViVi tank. I tried the U-wick mesh setup and the throat hit was killer and the vapour was practically non existant.
By all means though, try it. It's worth a shot and your experience may be altogether different.
By all means though, try it. It's worth a shot and your experience may be altogether different.
Thanks kritikal. I'm getting 2 of these tank atties; I'll most likely wick one with cotton for 'every day' use and use the other to experiment with. Guess I should mix up some no-nic juice to play with.
I have found that TH without vapor is usually very high heat and something burning instead of vaping. I vape 0 nic 100%vg with diy tobacco extract and menthol at high voltage and it gives a very good TH. If I go just a little higher voltage than my sweetspot it burns and gags me. Awfull,
That's what I've found too BJ.
This happens with genesis atties when the air flow isn't right. Air passing over the coil helps to cool it down but also helps to move the vapour to the right place. That's why it's essential to have an air hole adjacent to the coil.
Another co-op is starting up that includes these tank/atties.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6783180
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