*GEM: A new RTA by MarkBugs

[raitizz]

i can't buy another joytech product.. i just have to stick to my guns about it. Also I had an evic and it was downright TERRIBLE. I ended up replacing it then returning it. It wouldn't detect half my tanks, the resistance changed after sleep, and it was one that blasted full power for a second. It was without exception the worst mod I have ever owned. I know they did fix the issue and release a new one.. but that company is awful about support. They dont really have any kind of usable warranty at all... no matter what they say, unless you have a really good reseller nothing will happen.... because they screw either customers or resellers... it takes an act of congress to get them to do anything, even when their stuff is blowing up..

I have a hard time believing the new one contains a chip better than:

dna 200
dna 40
yihi 350j

it may work well, but i'd be shocked if it is better than those.

That said if it works like crap I will return the d2, if possible... or it will wind up in a drawer with all the other failures lol... then maybe i will look for the vtc..and it will work great and I will eat my words.. but my gut reaction is to stay very very far away from them overall. At least if the device costs more than $30

whats the price on the vtc anyway? seems like there is a crazy forum war going on between vtc lovers and d2 lovers. can't we all just get along?'

While I have strong opinions about the original evic, I appreciate your feedback. I figure I will take the chance on the yihi chip over the joytech /eleaf/ismoka
By the way, the istick tc isn't made to work with ti, it does if you turn the temp way down, but the math it does is very far off - depending on the situation that may or may not matter, turning it down may be ok - works for me, but it's not technically supported for anyone reading this who was considering ( especially since i posted a pic of it)

so OtherSteve, which do you prefer if you own both? Guys in the uk fasttech thread really seem to like it.

I only replied as I did because you mentioned the D2.
The eVic TC chip really is up there with the DNA40, YiHi SX350-J and Dicodes. And at what a price!
A thorough test of the DNA200 has yet to come out.
It does Ni200 and Ti and is upgradable.
The VTC Mini costs from 30 USD from China to around 45-60 USD in Europe and the States.

R

 

[sedge]

Friendly reminder.

This is the GEM thread.

A little off-topic happens every now and then.

 

[jmarkus]

i consistently have a small amount of liquid leak from the 510 pin. anyone else? anyway to stop it? seems to happen on every build i do on the gem.

 

[h00ligan]

You know the gem Isn't a terrible fit on the ego
One battery. Little top heavy. I'll build a .5 or so stainless and see how it does when my 28 gauge stainless gets in.

Probably good for a 4 or so hour brief outing. I usually get through 2+ ml on one charge of the ego one. Built at around that .6 mark. The batteries are really inexpensive on their own for anyone who may benefit from Shrinking their setup.

I haven't had any liquid leak. Are you sure it's not condensation? What kind of volume are you seeing? Can you take a picture ?

Sorry about my part in derailing the thread. But thanks very much for all the info raitizz

 

[jmarkus]

its always just a drop from the center pin, never more.

 

[raitizz]

its always just a drop from the center pin, never more.

Have had it once or twice. The o-ring in the base does not seal the +pin perfectly (mine is just a tad off-center) and the excess liquid in the wick, for example, after refilling, gets into the air channel, finds its way through the thread to the outside.

R

 

[jmarkus]

ya, i mean its pretty minor. was just curious if there was something i could do.

 

[raitizz]

ya, i mean its pretty minor. was just curious if there was something i could do.

Nothing on the pin, I suppose. Just master perfect wicking and prevent over-saturation of the wick (gurgling).
Same goes for me.

R

 

[Yozhik]

Interesting. I had a nautilus and mini though and I'm
Not sold on he could. Unless maybe I remember something about them shifting to a occ coil in the nautilus? Did they change he coils in the last year or so ? Not bvc after that

I think ok going to buy some more ego one clr coils and just build like 15-20 of those. It's probably the best mouth to lung hit of tanks I've used. Even the .5 aren't bad and the chimney is nonexistent.

Aspire has released a new bvc coil design earlier this year. It has larger holes and uses organic cotton, though I'm not sure if it is a 100% organic cotton wick. It may still use a ceramic paper on the outside of the wick for all I know.

So far as I've found, the Nautilus is the best stock coil substitute for the Gem, though it's not anywhere near as long-lasting or intense in flavor.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Nothing on the pin, I suppose. Just master perfect wicking and prevent over-saturation of the wick (gurgling).
Same goes for me.

R

I find the biggest problem is when removing an old wick that is still saturated. The coil squeezes juice out and it falls down the hole...

 

[h00ligan]

Aspire has released a new bvc coil design earlier this year. It has larger holes and uses organic cotton, though I'm not sure if it is a 100% organic cotton wick. It may still use a ceramic paper on the outside of the wick for all I know.

So far as I've found, the Nautilus is the best stock coil substitute for the Gem, though it's not anywhere near as long-lasting or intense in flavor.

Damn I literally just gave two nautilus minis and a nautilus away to someone who wanted to quit smoking. :/


By the way I'm now also having a jumping resistance issue with the gem. I'm not shorting anywhere. It's really got me baffled. I'm just about out in the tank. I'm going to throw it in the ultrasonic. Maybe some wire got,loose into the bottom.

It's not fluctuating all the time. It's fluctuating every time I fire it. Not going up and down as you'd expect. Just changing. It's hard to explain I'll see if I can better document it.

Gem made me go through all my favorite juice and now I'm out of it. Damn the flavor!

its always just a drop from the center pin, never more.

I'll make sure I clean everything extra well and confirm I don't have the issue.

 

[h00ligan]

The more I mess with my build from
Day ones build the worse it gets! Now I'm getting crazy fast spitting into my mouth. I think k need to put more cotton in

 

[TheotherSteveS]

The more I mess with my build from
Day ones build the worse it gets! Now I'm getting crazy fast spitting into my mouth. I think k need to put more cotton in

I still think less is more with the GEM. I am wicking mine in a similar way to how I do the Erlkoenigin with maybe slightly more cotton down the sides, big shoulders..It is very variable though with this atty.

 

[qorax]

GEM's also in use here

 

[TheotherSteveS]

GEM's also in use here

GEM and the spheroid featuring prominently!! Great vid!

 

[qorax]

^Thank you sir Steve

 

[TheotherSteveS]

^Thank you sir Steve

You are welcome my friend!

Will you post this in the more general sub-forums also? I think the new members would be really interested to see this!!

 

[qorax]

You are welcome my friend!

Will you post this in the more general sub-forums also? I think the new members would be really interested to see this!!

It'd be better if you did it brother, you know why?

 

[TheotherSteveS]

It'd be better if you did it brother, you know why?

I will and I dont! lol!

edit: I cant post a new thread in the noobie forum...I never realised that! I'll find somewhere for it.

 

[qorax]

I will and I dont! lol!

edit: I cant post a new thread in the noobie forum...I never realised that! I'll find somewhere for it.

Self promotion rules, alongwith using extraneous sites